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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

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Geosternbergia Since: Jul, 2013
#11952: Aug 31st 2023 at 10:52:16 AM

@Macron Notes Should've noticed sooner, sorry. I'll keep that in mind for any launches going forward.

Edited by Geosternbergia on Aug 31st 2023 at 10:52:55 AM

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#11954: Sep 4th 2023 at 11:03:19 AM

Seems like it. Since you're an engineer now, do you have the ability to unlaunch it?

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#11955: Sep 4th 2023 at 11:04:37 AM

We don't have our powers yet, lol

I'm not actually an engineer yet

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 4th 2023 at 2:04:52 PM

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#11956: Sep 4th 2023 at 11:05:10 AM

Ah. Rogue launcher didn't even leave a comment or grab this. Definitely a rogue launch.

Best to holler this at the moment then.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Sep 5th 2023 at 2:05:42 AM

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#11957: Sep 4th 2023 at 11:39:34 AM

Sent the draft back and suspended the rogue launcher.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#11958: Sep 5th 2023 at 10:11:18 AM

Is there a typo in the title Sexual Deviance Is Evil. Should it be Sexual Deviancy Is Evil instead?

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
JDMA12 He/Him from the 31st Century (Troper in training)
He/Him
#11959: Sep 5th 2023 at 10:13:52 AM

[up]Deviance is also correct afaik.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#11960: Sep 5th 2023 at 11:30:28 AM

Yes, "deviance" is just as correct as "deviancy" in this case, although the latter tends to be used more often.

Edited by Willbyr on Sep 5th 2023 at 1:31:41 PM

UFOYeah Since: Mar, 2022
#11961: Sep 5th 2023 at 5:46:20 PM

Saw Blades of Death was launched only a couple of days after it was created, the last activity on the draft was 4 hours before it was launched, and several fixes have had to be made on the trope page post-launch. I couldn't find a launching date on the draft, either.

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#11962: Sep 5th 2023 at 5:56:16 PM

Were the issues cited on the comment section sorted out? If not, I'll send it back. I see that the sponsor tried to address some of the concerns but I don't know if they addressed everything.

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#11963: Sep 5th 2023 at 6:01:00 PM

They weren't; we were still hashing out whether to remove murder weapon examples, AFAIK my post was the last on the draft.

Edit: It wasn't the last post, apparently; the sponsor replied several hours later and decided to just go ahead and launch. I was sort of hoping for an actual discussion though, because there were different opinions floating around and I'm not sure what, if anything, got changed before the trope launched.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 5th 2023 at 9:03:34 AM

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#11964: Sep 5th 2023 at 6:14:17 PM

OK, unlaunched the draft.

~Tropers/artman I unlaunched Saw Blades of Death because of the above concerns. Please read the comment I made on the draft here.

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#11965: Sep 5th 2023 at 8:51:36 PM

Messed up the ping ~Tropers/artman40

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#11966: Sep 6th 2023 at 7:13:29 AM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/launches.php

Rogue Launch right after I put the notice on it:

Memory Trigger Launching The Later Of Saturday Sept 62023 Or 23 Examples

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
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#11967: Sep 6th 2023 at 7:17:04 AM

Sent the draft back to the TLP and suspended the rogue launcher.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#11968: Sep 6th 2023 at 2:25:11 PM

Deviance is also correct afaik.

"Deviance" and "deviancy" are used in different ways in British English because they mean slightly different things; that's why I asked (because the heading will have slightly different meanings depending on which word is used). If that difference doesn't exist in other variants of English, then fair enough.

Edit: Upon re-reading the description, it is actions that's being focussed on, so "deviance" is the correct word after all, and "deviancy" would actually be wrong.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 6th 2023 at 10:28:45 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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#11969: Sep 7th 2023 at 2:38:23 PM

Devoted Fan Bonus Detail was launched yesterday. By my count, roughly half of the examples are ZCE of the "this work contains this trope" sort — usually a variety of "fans of the original/earlier entries of the series will enjoy the Mythology Gags within, while new watchers can enjoy this movie just fine" — and there are also two examples that seem to be straight up misuse.

I was directed to this thread from ATT.

What's the standard procedure here? Cleanup? Un-launch? Something else?

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#11970: Sep 7th 2023 at 3:28:40 PM

Since it was launched just yesterday, it should be unlaunched until all the examples are given proper context.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 7th 2023 at 6:33:42 AM

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desdendelle (Avatar by Coffee) from Land of Milk and Honey (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Writing a love letter
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#11971: Sep 7th 2023 at 3:31:22 PM

How is that done? Do I have to ping a mod somewhere?

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Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#11972: Sep 7th 2023 at 3:33:30 PM

[up] Mods pop into this thread but if you want to get their attention as a group, you can holler your original comment.

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#11973: Sep 7th 2023 at 3:34:50 PM

[up][up] What [up] said.

I originally put this as an edit to my original comment, but now that there are more posts I'll put it here:

Oh boy just looking at these examples tells me this is going to be a problem trope down the road. Most of them spend so much time gushing over "the film is fun for all but die hard fans will see these references that I don't even need to say them" that they, well, don't say the actual part of the trope.

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#11974: Sep 7th 2023 at 4:18:10 PM

OK, so creator of the trope here, but I actually asked in the TLP if there were any problems with the trope and barely anyone replied except one and that one troper was supportive of it. So since no one had any criticism and the existing criticism I resolved, I just went ahead and set a date to launch it because I was under the impression that enough Tropers found it ready to launch.

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