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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#351: Apr 15th 2013 at 9:31:34 AM

A Thousand Roads. Also, is Skins Film the right name or should it be Skins?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#352: Apr 15th 2013 at 10:54:12 AM

[up] Cut and PM for the first (non-namespaced) one. For the latter, it looks like it should just be Skins (and I know the book is just Skins); I recommend cutting and PMing for that one, too, given that it's at the wrong name and doesn't have a trope list.

edited 15th Apr '13 10:56:39 AM by Nocturna

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#353: Apr 15th 2013 at 11:14:09 AM

Cutlisting executed, and PM'ed again.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#354: Apr 16th 2013 at 3:25:39 AM

Tammin Sursok.

Also, upon further research it turns out the name is Skins not Skins Film so I moved it again.

edited 16th Apr '13 3:56:49 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#355: Apr 17th 2013 at 6:02:25 PM

Any moderator can now unlaunch a YKTTW. Just send a Holler.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#357: Apr 18th 2013 at 3:04:13 AM

Are we even in the business of having such pages as Presidential Library?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#358: Apr 18th 2013 at 7:32:34 AM

I don't think so. I don't see a need for it even as a useful note.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#359: Apr 18th 2013 at 7:37:23 AM

I can't see where Presidential Library is something this wiki needs, either. It's not exactly a common setting, nor is there any particular confusion about how fiction handles it versus the reality (the primary purpose of Useful Notes pages).

edited 18th Apr '13 7:38:39 AM by Nohbody

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#360: Apr 18th 2013 at 12:26:03 PM

Even though I work for the organization that runs the presidential library system, I really don't see the relevenace.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#361: Apr 18th 2013 at 11:46:45 PM

I don't know. For people who aren't from the US, it might be useful, especially if they think that some reference to the library for one of our more obscure, disliked, or even just rumored-to-be-stupid presidents is a joke.

eta: The page could use some work if it's going to be an actually useful useful note, though. :)

edited 18th Apr '13 11:47:43 PM by Xtifr

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#362: Apr 21st 2013 at 4:13:57 AM

I guess I could expand Presidential Library if we decide to keep it, but I'll leave that up to the thread. At best though it is a Useful Notes page.

Perhaps we need a vote on it since there have been multiple viewpoints presented.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#364: Apr 21st 2013 at 9:31:53 AM

I am partial to creating UsefulNotes.Presidential Library, but I will go ahead and cutlist Presidential Library since it has no wicks or inbounds and is a stub in the wrong namespace.

The next item on the list is Ambiguous Time Period, created one day ago without a YKTTW. The creating editor Ilniaj has asked for assistance in the TRS thread. Is anyone willing to take the job?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DunDun Wandering... Since: Apr, 2012
Wandering...
#365: Apr 21st 2013 at 11:57:49 AM

Main.Useful Notes Meiji Restoration is meant to be a Useful Notes page. It also didn't have any hats before launching—not necessarily a requirement given its a UN but there's literally the bare minimum for number of examples.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=zqxkw6srijbj1yx2i4s5s7cm

edited 21st Apr '13 11:59:07 AM by DunDun

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#366: Apr 21st 2013 at 12:01:21 PM

That one is already on the Cut List, because it's in the wrong page name. The page is UsefulNotes.Meiji Restoration.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#367: Apr 21st 2013 at 4:47:22 PM

If y'all want me to write something up on the presidential library system, it will have to wait until latter in the week. I'm borrowing someone else's computer right now and don't have time for anything really involved.

anoni Since: Nov, 2010
#368: Apr 22nd 2013 at 2:26:44 PM

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-18/gingitsune-shinto-manga-gets-tv-anime

I saw that Gingitsune now got an anime (forgot how to link to the article so heres the link (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/Gingitsune)

and btw, It's not porn, it's Seinen, like another manga that runs in it, Jojos Bizarre Adventure (Currently on part 8 Jojolion)

should we undo the locks if the anime comes out and gets subbed?

edited 22nd Apr '13 2:29:10 PM by anoni

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#369: Apr 22nd 2013 at 2:29:36 PM

Yes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#370: Apr 23rd 2013 at 8:46:48 AM

New page: Do Not Try This Trope At Home. Looks like a duplicate to Television Is Trying To Kill Us.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#371: Apr 23rd 2013 at 9:00:45 AM

Do Not Try This Trope At Home is a duplicate, but not only of Television Is Trying To Kill Us, it also partly duplicates Don't Try This at Home, at least in name.

edited 23rd Apr '13 9:04:08 AM by Nohbody

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#372: Apr 23rd 2013 at 9:34:03 AM

Vote cut for Do Not Try This Trope At Home, as a duplicate index to the one Septimus mentioned.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#373: Apr 23rd 2013 at 5:33:59 PM

Stronger Than They Look basically repeats the title and says to compare two tropes. The examples have little to no context.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#374: Apr 23rd 2013 at 5:39:00 PM

Wasn't that made as part of fixing misuse of Lightning Bruiser?

[down] I did? Huh, must've forgot about it.

edited 24th Apr '13 3:53:29 AM by MarqFJA

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#375: Apr 23rd 2013 at 8:31:53 PM

[up] You were the one who pointed out that the actual page was made without using the YKTTW... The actual YKTTW is unlaunched. I think the current page should be cut, and then if someone wants to resurrect the YKTTW, they can go for it (and request a page unlock if it ends up launching to that name).


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