Big Hero 6

The thing about Cruz is that we don't know what set him off when it comes to his superhero point of view. We know that he and Megan moved away in the past and just came back recently.

It begs the question(s): why did they move away? Was he an officer at that point? Where is Megan's mom? Is she the reason why they moved away?

So it looks like we'll be getting a new episode on December 7th, airing the same day as Big City Green's Christmas episode. Wonder whether it'll be treated also as a Christmas episode, even though the episode description doesn't explicitly mention that.

It also looks like we'll finally start getting the rest of the Season 2 episodes in February, which probably makes sense at this point. Get through the holidays and The Owl House premiering in January.

Bad news is that we have to wait another three months. :(

Edited by Arctimon on Nov 3rd 2019 at 2:52:48 PM

The title makes it sound pretty Christmas-themed. I hope it's not aired out of order.

Well, that's the weird part. "Obake Yashiki" clearly takes place on Halloween, and Hiro makes a point in "Prey Date" that it's been two months (and probably more than that) since Liv started publically commenting about Knox.

Granted, I don't know how fictitious tech institutes handle their semesters, but I'm fairly certain the movie takes place during the summer of that year (or at least right before the semester), and Season One ends his first semester. So...we're already long past Christmas at this point, right?

Which is why I thought it was just a Christmas-esque episode. It could even be a birthday episode masquerading as a Christmas episode; I don't think we even know when Hiro's birthday is.

It could also just be a "special" episode. One that doesn't have anything to do with the plot at all.

EDIT: Yeah, according to screenshots, if the number before the ending year (8.31) is any indication, it's August in the movie.

Edited by Arctimon on Nov 4th 2019 at 5:23:51 AM

Also, the screencap indicates that the movie and the show take place in the year 2031. Which explains why there's so much futuristic technology all around.

Taking place in 2031 certainly explains why the plasma saws Wasabi was working on in the first film are so much smaller and more precise than the ones I used for work

For the record, I knew that the movie took place in 2031. The entirety of the number (1.32.8.31) makes me think it might be August 31st, 2031.

Not trying to argue with anyone, just stating.

In one episode from the first season, Hiro says to the Professor from the movie "Tadashi would want me to forgive you. I hope I can some day."

Hiro seems to forget he wanted to kill the Professor in the movie and might have done so if the others hadn't stopped him.

I don't blame Hiro for being sore about Tadashi's death but I don't think Hiro has the right to act like he's morally superior to a man Hiro tried to kill.

Not that I think the series is any good, but I'm gonna say that that doesn't sound like Hiro acting morally superior.

He's literally just saying that a dead relative would want him to forgive his most hated enemy and that he is hoping he can fulfill his relative's wishes.

If Hiro is saying anyone is morally superior, he's saying that Tadashi is morally superior.

It's basically saying that Hiro hopes to be a better man someday, because he still hates the guy.

Hiro is also a 14-year-old kid who was weeks removed from his big brother dying. I would be more worried if he hadn't tried to kill Callaghan in that moment.

And at that point in the show, it was still a few months down the road. Of course he's not going to forgive him.

It would be nice at some point down the road for Hiro to make that stop to forgiving him, but that's going to depend I think on how long the show runs for.

https://disneytvanimation.com/post/189180149398/december-2019-programming-highlights-for-disney/amp?__twitter_impression=true

This article that mentions some of the new episodes airing next month says that the Christmas episode will air on December 7 at 7:00 am on both Disney Channel and Disney XD.

It seems to be the only new episode this month, and probably because it definitely seems to be a Christmas or Christmas-related episode, based on the description.

Kinda late to vent my frustrations here, but anyway.

Hiro could and should've killed Callaghan in the movie.

I'm so sick of the Thou Shalt Not Kill being enforced in all family movies at all cost, regardless if Vile Villain, Saccharine Show applies.

Hiro is a fourteen year old child, he has no business killing anyone and to do so would probably not be good for his own mental health even if Callahan deserved it.

Meanwhile in The Lion King (yeah, I think the film is overrated, but it has its brilliant points)...

Simba: (to Scar) You don't deserve to live.

And in The Incredibles...

Well. Just count how many henchmen die due to Dash's own handiwork. And that's not even getting to the bit where Mr Incredible throws a car at Syndrome's jet in full view of Violet, Dash and Jack Jack.

It probably depends on the context, such as who the hero is, how far the villain goes, and what the message. It's not just for theatrical movies though. For example, on Elena of Avalor , they actually justify Elena killing Shuriki since the latter is so despicable with no sympathetic traits , unlike Callaghan.

Edited by jessicadicicco610 on Nov 23rd 2019 at 1:31:57 AM

I can think of quite a few good points against it, but I think Gargoyles made the best one: There is a difference between killing someone in fight and straight-up execution. Hiro didn't needed to kill Callaghan to beat him. Dash and Violet were fighting for their lives.

And I know that If You Kill Him, You Will Be Just Like Him! is an old cliche, but this would be pretty literal: murdering someone you blame for death of your loved one, even though it was unplanned accident. Something Callaghan and Hiro both almost did.

I mean, there is a fat difference between Callaghan and Scar. Callaghan is now harmless, doesn't want to hurt anyone ever again and actually started to help out in the series. Scar has zero regrets from what he did and he literally continued being a villain from beyond his grave.

Also-also: There is a way to kill villain and still be a hero. But forcing your dead brother's robot to be your tool of murder is most definitely not it.

Plus there is the fact that Hiro changed his mind after they discovered that Callaghan was the culprit, before that the plan had been to capture Yokai, the others wouldn't have followed Hiro otherwise.

I'm speaking from the perspective of the events as they transpire in the movie, just to make it clear. I haven't watched the series.

Fine point about the henchmen in the Incredibles.

But Syndrome was beaten and was on the retreat when Bob threw the car to blow up his jet. Aside from the fact that Bob didn't use a sentient robot to kill Syndrome, I don't see why Hiro couldn't be allowed to kill Callaghan.

Also, Krei's experiment only endangered Abigail (who had willingly signed up for the job). Callaghan starting the fire put everyone in danger, and he showed no remorse for it. I say Hiro's desire to kill him is entirely justified in that situation.

Edited by BrightLight on Nov 25th 2019 at 9:17:27 AM

Bob was stopping mass murderer from escaping. Mass murderer who killed people who were heroes and Bob's friends, just threatened his son and literally was just screaming he will do it again.

So two big differences. a) Syndrome is 100% unapologetic bastard while Yokai caused Tadashi's death by accident b)Hiro had him. If he just arrested the guy, Callaghan would be in jail, without nanites to harm anyone ever again. If Bob just stood there and yelled "stop, you're under arrest!", Syndrome would flee and attack his family again. There was no easy non-lethal method of preventing his escape.

It's also worth noting that The Incredibles is, tone-wise, more "Bond movie with superheroes" than a straight-up superhero movie - which includes the more casual death and execution of enemies (among other things).

I really like the Bond tone for that particular series (to the point where I have mixed feelings about the sequel making it more traditional superhero in general), but I don't know how comparable it is to more standard superhero fare. Incredibles 1, at least, arguably isn't really trying to be a superhero movie.

Then again, writer and director differences count too. Hocus Pocus is arguably in the same genre as, say, Halloweentown, but one of those has the heroes burn their enemies alive in a furnace while they watch, and one doesn't.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 24th 2019 at 1:22:23 AM

Some screenshots on the upcoming episode "The Present". Also, expect the rest of the season to air on Early 2020, with Season 3 still in the works and will likely premiere next summer.

https://youtu.be/Q5bf9SMN0pM

Here's a holiday video.

Edited by jessicadicicco610 on Nov 30th 2019 at 12:51:53 PM

https://youtu.be/iReaiDzA8Lk

Edited by jessicadicicco610 on Dec 6th 2019 at 12:10:03 PM