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They actually did reference the Punisher crossover in the Predator one.

Yeah, Cortez has it. The Squadron Supreme of America under Coulson under Mephisto

Which sadly keeps getting all of their tie ins cut so they haven't done a lot so far

There was Hyperion's recent "fight◊" with Taskmaster.

We're talking about a fanfic. If you want to use a specific Nighthawk but he's currently dead, just ignore that detail and use him anyway. You can make up any convenient excuse that benefits the story, or set the story in the past.

Or rather than using a Batman expy, why not use Batman himself? There are a pair of Batman / Punisher crossovers, but you can make the third one (or ignore them and do your own one)

I liked that until the end.

Hawkeye was right, the Squadron Supreme are suckers for boomerangs

Garth Ennis on hate groups and police officers using the Punisher symbol.

In fairness, having super powers doesn't necessarily mean one is separate from humanity (Tien, Krillin and Yamcha are still identified as human).

It's about balance at the end of the day.

Edited by windleopard on Jan 12th 2021 at 1:56:03 AM

Tangentially related to that, I was kind of horrified when I realized that the Civil War shirts the insurectionists wore were using a take-off on the logo for the Captain America: Civil War movie. And I believe one of them was even carrying a Captain America shield - from what I could tell, it was Sam's shield, which makes it even more inappropriate.

But what struck me was also how it's very much in line with a group choosing to call themselves "boogaloos", refencing the very same joke that's used for the trope Oddly Named Sequel (the Stealth Pun of the group is that they are advocating "Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo").

So yeah, there's definitely a "thing" of people who are in the "nerdsphere" also being violent right wing extremists.

Edit- Also, I think it's more correlation than causation, but there is "something" about Badass Normal characters and the tendency to make them insanely overpowered as a way of compensating. I call it "Batman's Law". It does seem to attract edgelords.

But I think it might be character-specific, because Hawkeye doesn't really seem to have bad fans to the extent that Batman and the Punisher do.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jan 12th 2021 at 11:07:10 AM

It belongs in the political topics, but I would argue it’s because the ring wing actively recruits from those spheres rather than those spheres turning right.

From my experience, this is more of an issue for DC and Marvel than anyone else. The fact that DC and Marvel are essentially a bunch of universes mashed together might have something to do with it; instead of one story controlled by one person, you've got a bunch of writers frequently trying to outdo each other.

Hawkeyes modern thing is that he’s competent despite being a goofy guy with a personal life that’s a trash fire. And he’s deaf some of the times. Probably not as appealing as a hardened badass with acceptable manly emotions like stoicism and growling

Also archery has a way higher skill ceiling to imitate than guns

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 12th 2021 at 12:13:21 PM

Maybe, but Ennis probably writes him off because he's a cape and all.

Come to think of it, has Clint ever taken on Frank? Bet that'd be an interesting fight.

Punisher and Hawkeye met in "Ultimate Comics: Avengers". I'm not sure about other universes.

He stole Hawkeye's pizza in the last Punisher series.

What a dick

Well, now we know why Clint shot him from three blocks away next crossover.

Man Frank really is a mega douche.

Well, in Frank's defense, he does have to scrounge around for food a lot — while he does appropriate money from gangsters, he mostly spends it on weaponry instead of food.

Of course, if he stole that pizza from Hawkeye because it was Hawkeye's pizza, then yeah, it was a dick move.

On the topic of obscure villains, the Surgeon General/Angeline Kutter from that Daredevil and Spidey story was pretty gruesome for the era. Surprised she hasn't returned yet.

Also I just now recalled, are there rumors of Donny Cates being a worshiper of Satan?

I've heard some of that, its weird.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 12th 2021 at 12:42:44 PM

It's fun to realize both Frank and Predator are in the same comics company now.

Hey. Out of all Marvel characters, the Punisher is the one who fits a crossover with Predator the best.

Him or Ka-Zar and Shanna, even though that might be slightly redundant since we've already gotten Tarzan vs. Predator.

Kraven vs Predator.

You know you want to see it!

The Punisher stealing a pizza thing needs some context.

Basically, the Punisher went AWOL with the War Machine armor after nearly starting a nuclear war and is abusing its power to be an even more dangerous Punisher. Everyone is mad at him. Everyone.

Nick Fury (the guy who actually thought it'd be a good idea to give Frank Castle Powered Armor for some reason) had Hawkeye shoot a tracking arrow at Frank.

Hawkeye made the shot, which pissed off Frank. He flew back just so he could steal the pizza Hawkeye was eating at the time.

...So yeah, context makes Frank even more of a colossal asshole.

Nick Fury needs to be stopped

The other Nick Fury was stopped for a while by being stuck on the moon as the Unseen.

And then Uatu came back to life and recruited him to be his new agent.