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arromdee Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jun 4th 2012 at 8:28:17 AM

I created this trope long ago, back when tropes were studded with random references to other things. It's a fine trope (it's about when the original character is disguised as the Evil Twin rather than the other way around), but badly needs a new name. What should we do with it?

It probably should also be added to the Doppelgänger index.

edited 4th Jun '12 8:31:03 AM by arromdee

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Jun 4th 2012 at 9:39:21 AM

It is certainly not thriving, with 23 wicks and 17 inbounds.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Jun 4th 2012 at 10:22:02 AM

I support a rename. The current name is far too vague.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
arromdee Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Jun 11th 2012 at 8:22:00 AM

What should it be renamed to?

spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#5: Jun 11th 2012 at 1:37:04 PM

Also, the first 2-3 lines of the description can be improved.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#6: Jun 11th 2012 at 2:45:32 PM

It should be more popular than this, shouldn't it? I support a rename for that reason. Also [down] and [down][down].

The dullest name I can think of is Reverse Evil Twin. A slightly better one might be Evil Twin Impersonation. If you think that's too ambiguous because it might refer to the Evil Twin impersonating the Good Twin, I can only really think of Impersonating the Evil Twin.

edited 11th Jun '12 3:02:51 PM by Feather7603

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#7: Jun 11th 2012 at 2:47:24 PM

This name is just weird. Hard to remember and easy to put the words in the wrong order. I'm not surprised that it's doing so badly.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Jun 11th 2012 at 2:51:06 PM

And it's wretched dialog.

[up][up]Look like good suggestions.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#9: Jun 11th 2012 at 3:11:12 PM

Technically, I think it's lyrics, not dialog. The name comes from a Beatles song. A song that has nothing to do with the trope. A song, in fact, whose lyrics are notorious for being cryptic, right down the to title, "I Am the Walrus".

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Jun 11th 2012 at 3:14:00 PM

[up]It's still dialog, and these are hard to fit into sentences so that they get underused.

Do we get a Single Prop Rename crowner here?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#11: Jun 11th 2012 at 3:21:44 PM

[up]I'm sorry, did you somehow mistake my comment for a defense? tongue wink

Yeah, crowner this one up; severe underuse is a great reason for renaming, and non-indicative and dialog-like are excellent secondary reasons.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12: Jun 11th 2012 at 3:26:11 PM

"Not dialog" did sound like a defense. Anyway, crowner and hook-hollering.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#13: Jun 11th 2012 at 3:28:34 PM

Technically, I think it's a monologue, not dialog.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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AceOfSevens Since: Feb, 2010
#15: Jun 13th 2012 at 4:37:15 PM

Reverse evil twin sounds like the evil twin parody used in Futurama and South Park where you have a jerk character with a good twin.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#16: Jun 20th 2012 at 1:34:41 AM

Crowner called.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#17: Jun 22nd 2012 at 4:03:01 AM

Alt titles hooked.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#18: Jul 9th 2012 at 1:41:37 PM

Calling crowner.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#19: Jul 9th 2012 at 2:13:05 PM

Rename executed. Made a note on the old discussion, sicne there is an archived one to be moved over.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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