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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#26: Apr 7th 2012 at 4:49:27 AM

Thank you, ccoa.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Apr 7th 2012 at 4:52:20 AM

Redirected Symbolic Rape to Freud Was Right. If someone wants to see if the examples are salvageable?

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Pyrite Until further notice from Right. Beneath. You. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#28: Apr 7th 2012 at 5:39:11 AM

...I'm pretty bad at this, but how do you see the examples post-redirect?

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#29: Apr 7th 2012 at 5:40:13 AM

Okay, is the caption on Freud Was Right a bit over the top?

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Pyrite Until further notice from Right. Beneath. You. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#30: Apr 7th 2012 at 5:43:45 AM

Personal opinion: No. The untranslated word is "silencer / muffler", or so the online dictionaries tell me.

And for what it's worth, off the top of my head when I remember looking at the entries for Symbolic Rape: most examples fell just short of explicit, and could use a trimming down in terms of detail.

edited 7th Apr '12 5:46:02 AM by Pyrite

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#31: Apr 7th 2012 at 5:45:40 AM

You can see them in the page history. To get to the page history of a redirect, enter this in your browser: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=ArticleName, replacing ArticleName with the page you want to see.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#32: Apr 7th 2012 at 5:54:30 AM

I say they aren't salvageable. It's using possible (or not there at all) rape imagery with conflict scenes.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#33: Apr 7th 2012 at 5:55:44 AM

Most of them sound like really weird fantasizing. Suigetsu and Sasuke? Near and Light? Really?

edited 7th Apr '12 5:56:49 AM by lu127

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#34: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:00:25 AM

Yeah... I just ran into while fixing Death Note wicks before this issue exploded and was like -___-; . Anyway, not savable.

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TwoGunAngel The Demon Slayer Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#35: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:02:50 AM

OK, so do we take a chainsaw to the examples, or do we outright put this to the sword?

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#36: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:08:27 AM

We don't have to chainsaw. They are not on Freud Was Right. We're discussing if we need to salvage them and move them there.

edited 7th Apr '12 6:08:41 AM by Oreochan

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Pyrite Until further notice from Right. Beneath. You. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#37: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:11:05 AM

ccoa: Thanks. Now that I look back at the examples... There's too much detail on most of the examples to be sanitary, but on the other hand, those details provide context. I suppose a compromise for now would be to use Beige Prose: Work Name, event in work, no details.

A digression: What worries me is that the same problems of subjective interpretation and balance of detail could also apply to the majority of the examples in Freud Was Right.

edited 7th Apr '12 6:21:00 AM by Pyrite

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#38: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:14:21 AM

We should probably take it to TRS again for what to do about the examples. The previous thread was about making it YMMV.

edited 7th Apr '12 6:15:25 AM by Oreochan

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#39: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:15:21 AM

I know this may sound draconian, but I think we should prune or clean up Freud Was Right temporarily. It gathers some really odd things and the current situation calls for us to be safe.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#40: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:17:58 AM

A temporarily prune will work better considering how urgent everything is...

edited 7th Apr '12 6:19:09 AM by Oreochan

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Pyrite Until further notice from Right. Beneath. You. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#41: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:20:47 AM

A thought: Should these be limited to examples which are either explicitly lampshaded and / or analysed in-universe, or supported by Word Of God and / or professional literary criticism? I don't know how practical that would be, to be honest, since the subjective examples range from "still open to contention" to "all but explicitly stated".

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#42: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:28:19 AM

[up] If we are to that, they need very heavy and dedicated curating. But an interesting point anyway. I just don't think all people are going to follow this.

edited 7th Apr '12 6:29:39 AM by Oreochan

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#43: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:30:08 AM

I think pruning for emergency measures and then bring it to TRS so we can talk about it. It needs fixing either way, but we're kinda in a hurry right now.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#44: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:56:00 AM

Cut the examples and put them in a file on my harddrive for now. If anyone wants a copy, feel free to PM me.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#45: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:57:54 AM

Is a temporary lock necessary or is it too much work?

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#46: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:59:02 AM

Embarrassingly enough, I have no idea how to lock a page. ^^;

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47: Apr 7th 2012 at 7:06:02 AM

surprised

It's alright, not that big of an issue. smile

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#48: Apr 7th 2012 at 7:24:49 AM

I sent you a PM on how to do it ccoa.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#49: Apr 7th 2012 at 7:38:25 AM

[up] Can you send that to me too when you get a chance?

edited 7th Apr '12 7:38:36 AM by Willbyr

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#50: Apr 7th 2012 at 7:45:31 AM

Sent.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

AlternativeTitles: ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt2
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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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