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Yumil Mad Archivist
Mad Archivist
May 9th 2019 at 2:01:26 AM

I dunno, Tobias just made a convincing argument for why the guy wouldn't have an ulterior motive on that one literally five posts ago, being that he's always been very open about the fact that he wants to regulate the tech industry, which is exactly what the bill is about.

The man isn't crossing his fingers behind his back so much as he's putting his hands up in the air for everyone to see the crossed fingers.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
MJTrooper The Neutral One from California
The Neutral One
May 9th 2019 at 4:04:06 PM

In yet more bad news for Bethesda, it turns out they published a tabletop adventure that plagiarized Dungeons & Dragons so blatantly it almost makes Filip Miucin look original.

Personally, I'd prefer if the 'net was a little friendlier, but you know the GIFT...
Dhiruxide Suicidal Squirrel from Somewhere and nowhere
Suicidal Squirrel
May 9th 2019 at 5:14:16 PM

Always something with Bethesda, huh.

It's why I pay attention to studios under Zeni Max. You can trust id Software, Arkane Studios and Tango Gameworks to deliver quality game. Seriously, Bethesda should stop doing shit and let others take on Elder Scrolls and Fallout franchise.

Edit: oh yeah I wanted to say while id Software doing a Fallout or an Elder Scrolls game would be unusual and awesome at same time and id have started having more storytelling aspects with newest DOOM 2016, like there's lore, the past and the codex and DOOM Eternal is gonna build on that, potentially massively given Hugo's words of "building a DOOM universe", I say Arkane Studios is more worthy. While I did not play Prey 2017, I watched walkthroughs and storytelling and characters there are fantastic and gameplay itself is pretty good too! They could do so much...

Edited by Dhiruxide on May 9th 2019 at 4:15:47 PM

Draghinazzo My love, has dressed me like a clown Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
My love, has dressed me like a clown
May 9th 2019 at 5:19:51 PM

Bethesda's game studio has a huge problem in that the cornerstone of their pipeline is a house of cards. Whether it's the engine itself or Bethesda not knowing how to make the most of it, their whole team is so used to it that teaching everyone to use an entirely different pipeline would be massively time-consuming and use up a lot of manpower and resources, even if it would ultimately lead to better games.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. ...not really though.
InkDagger Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
May 9th 2019 at 7:01:44 PM

Oh jesus. That's awful. Like... Oh boy. I've seen students with better plagerism abilities.

deludedmusings Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
May 9th 2019 at 7:14:30 PM

Just, wow. I did a better job the first time I attempted to paraphrase at University. That's not just dirty, it's LAZY.

M84 'Til all are one from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
'Til all are one
May 9th 2019 at 7:25:40 PM

Not exactly Bethesda's proudest moment.

And they haven't had many proud moments lately.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Steven The Nu Mou Enthusiast from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
The Nu Mou Enthusiast
May 9th 2019 at 7:33:57 PM

At this point, all I can say is "lol Bethesda"

Something something thoughts and prayers
slimcoder Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
May 9th 2019 at 7:35:16 PM

Its why I laugh at people who support Rage 2 instead of Borderlands 3 cause of Randy.

If you support Rage 2 then you support bullshit like this sadly.

Dhiruxide Suicidal Squirrel from Somewhere and nowhere
Suicidal Squirrel
May 9th 2019 at 7:36:10 PM

I am worried Bethesda does punish the companies under them. If they decided to meddle with DOOM Eternal development I'm gonna be royally pissed.

I am honestly afraid they actually try stupid shit like that and make id Software suffer for it.

[up]I don't support Bethesda. I support id Software. id Software doesn't have a clown like Randy as its CEO. And I think Borderlands 3 looks pretty cool, Blandy Shitford or not.

[down][down][down]dude, slimcoder, wtf.

Edited by Dhiruxide on May 9th 2019 at 6:01:55 PM

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Meh-meh!?
May 9th 2019 at 7:39:22 PM

As Jim mentioned in the video Rage 2's being made by id, which is the one saving grace the company has at the moment and the only thing people are willing to give leeway.

I don't know if I'm necessarily upset by Bethesda doing this but it's still goddamn hilarious. And someone in the comments pointed out that WotC's parent company is Hasbro, so if they decide to throw hands then that's gonna be a lot of fun for everyone.

Ghilz Fight It Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Fight It Out!
May 9th 2019 at 8:32:13 PM

Its why I laugh at people who support Rage 2 instead of Borderlands 3 cause of Randy.

If you support Rage 2 then you support bullshit like this sadly.

And if one supports BL 3, one supports a man who is abusive, and who mismanages / embezzles money and also had a USB drive full of porn he showed to kids apparently?

So ya know, Pot, Meet Kettle.

Edited by Ghilz on May 9th 2019 at 11:34:57 AM

slimcoder Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
May 9th 2019 at 8:44:33 PM

Both sides are fucked, on one side ya got fucking asinine management & the other ya got a fucking asshole in charge.

No room for pride here.

ShirowShirow More Dread from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
More Dread
May 9th 2019 at 8:51:14 PM

There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism!

Bleye knows Sabers.
InkDagger Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
May 9th 2019 at 9:21:33 PM

[up]Pretty much. Even if we, say, don't buy a game because we hate the one jackass at the top, who are we hurting? That jackass at the top? Or the dozens of skilled artisans who created the product we're refusing to buy?

M84 'Til all are one from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
'Til all are one
May 9th 2019 at 9:26:30 PM

[up]I doubt the artisans would mind depending on the circumstances. Remember that success would simply encourage the higher-ups to continue the same toxic practices.

There's a reason some Bioware devs wished Inquisition had bombed.

Heck, let's not forget that the reason lootboxes, microtransactions, etc. have become so prevalent is because those slimy practices worked. Too many of us gamers rationalized and even defended these practices and willingly kept rewarding them with more and more money.

Edited by M84 on May 10th 2019 at 12:29:44 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
May 9th 2019 at 9:47:40 PM

Ghilz: I don't fucking care for Pitchford, but if you would RTFA you linked you'd know that was a gross mischaracterization of the situation. The accusations don't have him showing anything intentionally to kids. The countersuit by Callender claims that Pitchford was careless with a flash drive that had sensitive work documents and what the suit alleges is "Randy Pitchford's personal collection of 'underage' pornography". The flash drive was lost at a Medieval Times, found, and returned.

What Pitchford said on a magic podcast that was published the day before this countersuit was filed was that he was a fan of camshows, and saw one performer who presented herself as "barely legal" (performing under a handle of "Only 18") and apparently saw her faking squirting and wanted to see how she did it because blah blah interest as a magician, so he bought a couple clips she was selling. I've never heard of a clip site that doesn't require performers to provide ID. There's still the creep factor of a man in his forties watching "barely legal" porn but that's still a far cry from either CP (the actual accusation) or intentionally showing porn to kids (what you said). There's also the sheer irresponsibility of keeping porn and work files together on an unencrypted flash drive you're carrying in public places.

ShirowShirow More Dread from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
More Dread
May 9th 2019 at 9:57:05 PM

Why the hell did I read both those paragraphs.

That was too much detail.

Edited by ShirowShirow on May 9th 2019 at 12:58:00 PM

Bleye knows Sabers.
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Meh-meh!?
May 9th 2019 at 9:57:50 PM

I kinda feel like namedropping someone's camshow handle on a podcast where people are likely to take the transcript and run wild with it is... like, kiiiiinda a gross violation of a sex worker's rights to privacy, too.

Compared to the other sleazebag stuff Randy does it's probably a relatively small issue, but for some reason it rubs me the wrong way more than his other shenanigans.

MJTrooper The Neutral One from California
The Neutral One
May 9th 2019 at 11:58:37 PM

I've heard reports that the plagiarized campaign was actually something an employee made for private use only, instead of something that was intended to be released publicly. Apparently someone stumbled across it and decided to release it to the public without being aware that it was copied off of a D&D campaign. To me, this would feel like a one-time accident from any other company, but from Bethesda, it's just another screw-up in their increasingly long list of screw-ups.

EDIT: I should have specified that this information is second-hand and paraphrased.

Edited by MJTrooper on May 10th 2019 at 12:12:20 PM

Personally, I'd prefer if the 'net was a little friendlier, but you know the GIFT...
Kayeka World's biggest wannabe from Amsterdam Relationship Status: Brony
World's biggest wannabe
May 10th 2019 at 12:06:20 AM

[up]Right. Yes, of course. Naturally. Why, exactly, was a private modified D&D campaign laying around at the office where someone with that decision making power could stumble into it? Why did this person not go to the owner of the document to ask about it, if only so they knew who to credit for the writing? Why did the original owner of the document not stop the process before it got to this point, since they are apparently close enough to the decision-making process that documents they accidentality leave laying around can influence the company's business?

I'm willing to accept that most people involved were just doing their jobs and just didn't think any of it, but someone passed this campaign as their own work, and someone had the job of checking it.

People say I have a problem with authority. I say that authority has a problem with me.
MJTrooper The Neutral One from California
The Neutral One
May 10th 2019 at 12:11:19 AM

[up]Sorry, I should have specified that I only got this information second-hand and not from any actual articles, and I'm also paraphrasing, so that makes it twice as unreliable. Still, the fact that the best-case scenario for Bethesda is the whole thing was a complete accident still puts it in a bad light.

Edited by MJTrooper on May 10th 2019 at 12:12:32 PM

Personally, I'd prefer if the 'net was a little friendlier, but you know the GIFT...
VampireBuddha Hungry dinosaur from Ireland Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Hungry dinosaur
May 10th 2019 at 5:53:23 AM

building a DOOM universe

There's actually already a Doom universe. Doom, Doom II, Doom 64, Doom 4, Doom RPG, Wolfenstein 3D, Wolfenstein: Spear of Destiny, Wolfenstein RPG, Commander Keen, Quake, Quake II, Quake III: Arena, and Quake 4 all take place in the same universe, as will Doom Eternal.

Edited by VampireBuddha on May 10th 2019 at 1:53:43 PM

Ghilz Fight It Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Fight It Out!
May 10th 2019 at 6:23:53 AM

Is it confirmed Doom 4 / Doom Eternal is part of the original doom? There are references, but hardly confirmation. More of a "You can interpret it that way"

VeryVileVillian Who did you expect? God? Devil? No, it's just me from Russia Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Who did you expect? God? Devil? No, it's just me
May 10th 2019 at 7:00:16 AM

Final Fantasy VII Remake - I Have My Concerns (OMGH)

Lurking in shadow, haunting every step, bringer of chaos: Nyarlathotep.

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