X-Men In General

The U-Men as stand ins for cultural appropriation would be a good metaphor.

Yeah, I think the people who know Ted Roberts are me and Ed Piskor. But I like me some deep cuts.

I assume that was what Morrison was going for with them.

Also on the list of X-Men comic demands: Dazzler tour comic; mini about how Mystique and Destiny met and fell in love; an ongoing by Leah Williams, I don't even care what it is, just give her an ongoing. (My preference would be a New Hellfire Club series, with Emma Frost as the leader of a new Hellfire Club that includes Madelyne Pryor, Monet, maybe Deathstrike, one or two others. A bunch of boss-ass bitches, gettin' shit done and being fabulous while they do it.)

Just as long as they're not the Hellfire brats.

Yeah, I'll be happy if none of them are ever seen again.

But yeah, Emma as leader of a new Hellfire Club, one that is ruthless in using its wealth, power and influence to protect and promote mutant rights, is an idea that feels too good to leave just as a group of antagonists in Uncanny or whatever. Emma's awesome, she can absolutely lead a team book. Let Leah Williams write it, because I don't know that a bigger Emma fan even exists. Kris Anka would be the obvious choice as artist, given he's also a massive Emma fan, and given his love of fashion would make for some killer lewks for the whole cast. (Even better if he gives the characters aesthetics rather than costumes. I've never liked the idea of Emma having a costume.)

Leah Williams/Kris Anka New Hellfire Club ongoing. We've been good. We deserve this.

On the Hellfire Brats, anyone else think it'd be hilarious if there was a story where Shaw or some other classic member offhandedly mentions he had them killed for making the group look bad, or something like that?

What was up with the Hellfire Brats exactly?

Presumably, Aaron thought it'd be subversive to have kids who are evil and murderous. Thing is, it wasn't actually a particularly unique idea, so it was kind of an obnoxious concept, and at no point did the execution justify their existence.

I try to block out most of Aaron's X-Men run. I agree the X-Men need a new direction, but he took it in a Saturday Morning/Zany cartoon direction which is...different but it clashed pretty badly.

I do remember liking some parts so maybe Wolverine and the X-Men is worth revisiting.

Like what was their problem exactly?

Were they just way too annoying?

Like I said, I find the premise of Evil Genius Children to be obnoxious in the first place, so that was a problem. They were written very much as hate-sinks. Obviously, we're supposed to hate them, because they're villains, but they were just such total shits that I just hated seeing them show up. They were really annoying, with this totally unearned cockiness. Add to that the fact that it's a handful of kids being presented as a massive threat to the X-Men, which in no way makes the X-Men look good. So the X-Men ended up looking stupid when a bunch of kids got over on them. And when the X-Men got a win, well, they got a win over a bunch of frigging kids, hardly an accomplishment to be proud of.

And, of course, it led to Idie, who was like 15, wearing the old Hellfire lingerie, which was incredibly uncomfortable.

So yeah, there was just a lot to hate about them. They were a bad idea, done badly.

Bet like Magneto's new Brohood the Hellfire Club has been dropped because of the Age of X Man crap with Emma in hiding or dead.

I imagine they'll show up at some point. They'll probably appear in Uncanny, and once Age of X-Man ends, there might be more of the Hellfire Club.

But they should totally get a series by Leah Williams and Kris Anka.

A Brotherhood of Mutants book would be amazing. Especially if they aren't actually evil, but rather super morally gray.

ha man they fucked up with wolverine's return. all those times we saw him before uncanny reappearance was future phoenix logan who turned his flames off

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Marvel had no idea how Wolverine came back from the dead before asking Jason Aaron to include him in the Marvel Legacy book with an Infinity Stone. And then Charles Soule wrote a mini-series (which was okay, not bad, but not great either), his resurrection had nothing at all to do with the Infinity Stones, so they asked Gerry Duggan to write another Wolverine mini-series that explained that.

All in all, I kind of wish they just left him dead. Old Man Logan is way more interesting than Wolverine now.

Two mini series for that? Smh

One villain I've wanted to see since the Morrison days is a mutant who is less of a mutant supremacist and more of a cultural and genetic bigot, someone who dislikes mutant-human couples and sees any offspring as cultural erasure. It turns into less of a battle of races and more of a battle of cultures.

Then again, mutants don't seem to have a culture in the Marvel Universe other than cowering in fear of the next genocide event.

I'd like to see a Mutant culture.

Like do they have any holidays?

I'd assume common cultural clothing would involve Sigil Spamming an X.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 25th 2019 at 6:47:29 AM

Sales in January aren't feeling so good.

Oh God, the mutants are being marked as vessels for Xehanort!

LCS sales are only a part of the picture, but I hope this sends the message that the hardcore is done, done, DONE with these plot re-threads.

"MOAR GENOCIDE" - X-Men editors, probably.

Why haven't the X-Men given up and simply declared war against regular humanity again?

They would get wiped out?

And even Marvel isn't stupid enough to write thst story. They're already getting so much flack for the endless extinction stories.