Mistborn

Anyway, I finished the series, and I liked it. Pretty good, though I was really annoyed how the Hero of Ages gave away the final twist halfway through the book.

Also apparently the Alloy of Law is coming out soon.

Huh, could've sworn there was a thread for this already.

Anyway, which "final twist" are you referring to? I know that it sort of lets evidence build up gradually rather than dumping it on you all at once with a Wham Line, but there are so many different reveals that I'm not positive which one you mean.

I believe that Alloy of Law comes out in November. I've got it pre-ordered on Amazon, so I'll be pleasantly surprised whenever it shows up at my door. I don't actually know much about it except that it takes place a few hundred years after the main trilogy; I'm not going out of my way to find information on it, since I don't want to spoil anything. Honestly, the fact that it's a Brandon Sanderson book is enough to make me want to get it at this point.

Whoops.

I mean how there's always writing before each chapter, and in each book there's always some kind of twist that deals with them and what you thought they were about. But in book three, you're not even halfway through the book when Sazed says; "I am, unfortunately, in charge". I just felt that was way too blatant.

Most people don't seem to think it was very blatant. YMMV on that I guess. I certainly didn't notice and when I did notice later I thought it was quite clever.

and Alloy of Law comes out on November 10th.

I felt the same way about the reveal in Book 3 - though I wasn't tipped off by any specific line but the generally didactic nature of the writing. However, I thought the end made up for this by making Sazed not only the Hero of the Ages, but also God. That was a nice bonus that made up for the predictability.

I wasn't entirely sure it was Sazed while reading it (though I did suspect it pretty heavily) but I knew it couldn't be Vin. Whether she ascends to godhood or not, there's no way that scholarly tone is coming out of her.

I didn't suspect it, but when the reveal came in the final chapter, it made sense.

That's my favorite part about Brandon Sanderson's work. His Reveals hit just the right balance — they're obscure enough that even a Genre Savvy reader can't immediately pick up on them beforehand, but telegraphed enough that they don't become a Shocking Swerve.

So I was looking over the Mistborn page, and it really needs an overhaul. The description is too long, Alloy Of Law stuff is mixed in, and the spoiler tagging could use some work. My question is, do you guys think it's worth splitting the page into separate articles for each novel, with Main.Mistborn as the franchise/disambiguation page?

edited 29th Dec '11 2:26:18 PM by NativeJovian

Nah, I don't really think that's necessary; there's such strong continuity between them (what with being written back-to-back and all) that a split doesn't really seem worthwhile.

Giving Alloy (and the sequel trilogy, when it comes out several years down the line) its own page makes sense, as they are distinct stories united by a shared setting. The original trilogy, though, is one cohesive story in three acts (particularly obvious looking back from Hero of Ages) and should certainly be kept on one page, IMO. I do agreen that the description needs an overhaul, however.

What I'm mostly thinking about with splitting the works pages is the fact that the main Mistborn page is something of a Signal To Noise Trainwreck at the moment. There's just a ton of tropes on the page, and given how very distinct the plots of the three novels are (the first is The Caper about overthrowing the Lord Ruler, the second is more of a political drama over the fate of Elend's new kingdom, and the third is a straight up showdown between good and evil with the fate of the world at stake) — particularly the fact that the plot of each book after the first is completely and utterly dependent on the ending of the previous one, which is a massive spoiler for everything after it. It seems like having more focused pages would solve a lot of that — and the main Mistborn page would still be around for general info, naturally.

Since Mistborn will be written in clusters of trilogies set at verious times in The 'Verse, and that we are now in the second trilogy, I guess every trilogy should have it's own page.

In many TV shows each episode has its own distinct plot, and the plot for one episode may spoil the previous ones, but we still put them all on one page.

Keep the tropes on the one page, but give each book separate folders, maybe?

actually The Alloy of Law is not part of the planned second trilogy, it's its own thing.

Also, seperate folders for tropes associated with a specific book in the trilogy sounds like a good plan, with a folder for tropes that span the whole trilogy.

edited 1st Jan '12 8:18:52 PM by Andygal

Though, apparently it might turn into a duology or trilogy anyway, depending on what takes priority after the second Stormlight Archive book is done.

The way I understand it, the Mistborn story was originally going to be split into three trilogies — the Mistborn one we already have, one set in a modern-ish setting, and a third one set after that. Alloy of Law was intended to bridge the gap between the first and second trilogies — but ended up being bigger than one book itself, so might end up becoming a fourth trilogy set between the original first and second ones.

I like where this is going. I like it a lot.

^Oh yes!

From Sanderson's blog: " In short, we're hoping to do a fun, fast-paced, action game with some RPG elements, cool Allomancy effects, and some (hopefully) killer dialogue. That last part is my job, as I'll be writing the story and most (if not all) of the game's dialogue. The game will take place hundreds of years before the events of the books, during the early days of the Final Empire."

My immediate worry was that the game would have The Problem with Licensed Games, but if Sanderson himself is writing for it and it's a distant prequel rather than involving any pre-existing part of the story, then that's definitely good news in my book. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

Oh god I love Mistborn.

Remember that a big cause of The Problem with Licensed Games is giving the developers only a few months to make it, in order to synch it up with a movie release. Since that's not a problem (and add in Sanderson writing), I think this is gonna be awesome.

I am a little worried, since this company seems to be new, but it might mean they'll be trying to break into the business by making a real blockbuster.

edited 1st Apr '12 8:34:11 AM by Discar

I've speculated about the possibility of a Mistborn game before, but I'm not sure how it would work. I mean, you'd need like 8 different MP meters.

So, I'm considering picking up this series. Is it good? To what public does it appeal?