DEATH BATTLE

I haven't given any thought into stats or whatever but I'm pretty sure Alucard takes this since a huge chunk of the plot was the villains pulling out every stop to kill him and failing.

The best option for killing Alucard was apparently retgonning him and that failed

Honestly I had forgotten about Alucard's other powers like telekenisis and intangibility and frankly I think that just solidifies his win for me. Alucard's not only damn hard to kill but he's more flexible than DIO.

This thread's joined Team Alucard. Here's the pool for the upcoming battle:

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• DIO - 0
• Alucard - 3

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The hands from Diamond is Unbreakable might not necessarily be the same as Baskerville. I'm content for fanfiction purposes in saying that Baskerville is basically a Stand for Alucard, a manifestation of "fighting spirit" since he uses the souls to fight for him.

Granted, given it took decades for him to pull himself back together, that would count as a win in DB standards.

I don't know if I should pick a side since I've completed Helsing and haven't touched Jojo (In b 4 the entire thread tells me to watch Jojo) but I guess I'm voting for the guy named after a Castlevania protagonist.

Too late

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DIO - 0 Alucard - 4

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Edited by FOFD on Oct 20th 2021 at 9:07:52 AM

Yeah DIO's only hope was The World and if Alucard can actually handle that then that's it. It's over. Put a vote down for me on Alucard.

Is Baskerville not just a bigass Dog Alucard ate once?

I dont see why Baskerville would be seen as a particular threat to DIO. It's not invulnerable. Walter was able to chop it up and control it with string. DIO could do the same with a time stop and a flesh bud.

I dont think Baskerville on his own is a threat. The 3 million other soul zombies (At least 3 of whom are themselves powerful vampires) prolly are more of a threat.

And those are made of blood, right? At least, that's how I remember the show depicting it. The stuff DIO drinks with his skin to amp himself up.

Blood or the goo they mention in the preview. Like, it's clearly not just blood coz it has eyes and turns into body parts and inanimate objects like guns and armors.

It also like... flies and forms webs on its own. So dont think it's just blood.

Edited by Ghilz on Oct 20th 2021 at 8:45:43 AM

It seems like weird blood magic to me. Like a super advanced version of what police girl ends up doing.

Doesnt really matter. I just dont like the insinuation that literally everything in Alucard's arsenal would be insurmountable for DIO. He should be able to put up a fight. I'm just not sure there's an actual lose condition for Alucard. His upper limit was always more than what anyone in his series could dish out. It's kind of a one Pokemon vs a billion lions kind of thing, but one of the lions is actually unbeatable.

Think when the familiars manifest they're just extensions of the vampires physical body, and I don't know if JoJo vampires can drink others of their kind. The Pillar Men can, but vampires were stated to be food for them.

The World is Stand that can hit like a freight train and moves like lightning.

DIO should be able to pop Alucard’s familiars heads like a water balloon.

We do see Alucard being separate from familiars.

During the final duel with Anderson, Alucard isn't visibly linked to his familiars but they persist and form a crowd around them as they fight (And Anderson kills some of them, along with his underlings when they come to save his ass before he transforms himself).

The main challenge is going to be Alucard himself Tubalcain and Rip Van Winkle, the last two are ranged specialists who can control their projectiles flight path. The later can make his cards explode, so even if The World blocks them, Dio is still in the blast zone (He can't be more than 2m from his own stand). Meanwhile Alucard can, according to their own preview, nail a headshot from a km away.

The main issue for DIO is The World, while fast, can't be everywhere at once. Alucard has two paths to victory - injure DIO by overwhelming him from too many angles, drink his blood while he's too injured and vulnerable. Or plan 2, play keep away and stretch the fight into daylight (Dunno if Deathbattle would allow that, but Alucard isn't vulnerable to daylight, Dio is, and some vampires in Alucard's setting are vulnerable too, so it's not impossible for him to guess Dio might be).

DIO doesn't really have, AFAIK, a path to victory. He can slaughter familiars, but there's a point where Alucard can just stop him by becoming intangible. What does DIO do then? And DIO has way less ranged options than Alucard does.

Dio's main advantage is that it's not inconceivable that Alucard can't see the World, and might not be able to harm it. But Alucard doesn't need both. He just needs to overwhelm it.

Edited by Ghilz on Oct 20th 2021 at 9:09:15 AM

Probably should have phrased differently, just meant their physical state is pretty much the same as Alucard's.

Using Walter as a base for taking down Baskerville requires you to take into account those same wires casually sliced through buildings. In addition a reason why it and others familiar tend to come up is also the possibility of them being able to damage The World, which is a massive problem for DIO.

Yeah but I'm trying to give Dio his best chances. Like even if the world can't be hurt. DIO lacks a victory condition.

I think DIO's best chance for victory is if he proves strong enough that Alucard thinks "Hmm, I might have to go into that special mode thing where I release all of my souls except for one and become even more powerful!" and then manages to attack Alucard directly via Time Stop or The World. Which doesn't seem likely, but... you know when Wiz says "If we replayed this battle a hundred times, X would win a few of them, sure!"? I'm trying to give DIO a path to at least a few victories, rather than a hundred straight losses.

42 solid ways for a fight to end without Alucard being able to see The World.

You're right about how Stands can only do so much and the Stand User has to be capable of fighting and reacting themselves.

There's 2 problems with that:

A) there's no reason Alucard would ever release all his souls if he's facing just one guy. Think about it, we're talking several million people. Think how huge a crowd this is. Some of them would spawn literally miles from where DIO is. WTF would they contribute to a fight? It accomplishes nothing. In the anime/manga he releases all of them coz he's actually facing several armies and he needs the coverage. Against Dio? He can release 10,000 souls and that forms enough of a crowd to effectively surround Dio for hundreds of meters in all directions, and that's still <0.3% of the souls Alucard has. Releasing millions of dudes only ever makes sense if most/all of them can provide help.

B) All of Alucard's souls would cover an area well beyond The World's reach (Even that of Dio's eye beam). Dio can't kill them all in a time stop coz he can't reach them.

Edited by Ghilz on Oct 21st 2021 at 6:22:41 AM

Yeah, as someone else noted, Alucard is 1 Million Lions personified, and given a bunch of extra superpowers on top of that.

Wait, if Alucard is the lions, does that make DIO the Po-

Well, he does like saying his name a lot.

Pretty sure he's evolved a couple times too.

He's even got a mega evolution.

Though it's hard for him to find the right stone to do it.