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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#374901: Sep 18th 2021 at 9:52:16 AM

"Big old flop" sounds about right, since it looks like the press covering it outnumber the number of rally attendees. (Twitter link)

Wheeeeeee pagetopper.

Edited by TotemicHero on Sep 18th 2021 at 12:52:41 PM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#374902: Sep 18th 2021 at 10:16:37 AM

Looks like very few people had the stomach for the rally. I'm guessing most of those who cared already got it out of their system by now.

Optimism is a duty.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#374903: Sep 18th 2021 at 10:18:41 AM

Apparently a bunch of Trumpist have convinced themselves the whole thing was a Deep State plot to lure them into the open and arrest them, so they stayed away.

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#374904: Sep 18th 2021 at 10:19:54 AM

[up]Is that actually the reason, or something they came up with after the fact?

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#374906: Sep 18th 2021 at 10:25:52 AM

I do know Glenn Beck was warning about going to the rally earlier this week, suggesting it was a trap. Trump parroted him shortly after.

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#374907: Sep 18th 2021 at 10:26:21 AM

Does it really matter? The GQP simply no longer exists in the same reality with the rest of us. If we have history books a century from now and aren't swimming to work across the beaches of Chicago, this will be recorded as the greatest mass delusion in human history.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#374908: Sep 18th 2021 at 11:06:50 AM

I mean, I don't think going to that rally would have been a good idea for anyone, but that's neither here nor there.

Optimism is a duty.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#374909: Sep 18th 2021 at 1:51:05 PM

It was called the "Justice for January 6" rally? These people are the height (nadir?) of Narm.

I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#374910: Sep 18th 2021 at 2:03:00 PM

The journalist Totemic linked to at the top of the page has added some stuff since then:

In an interview with @thedispatch at the Justice for January 6 rally, Trump endorsed challenger to @Herrera Beutler tells me he believes the election was stolen and that his role models in the House are Matt Gaetz, Paul Gosar and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Trump-endorsed House candidate Joe Kent says "pressure" from Mc Carthy is why no members came to the Capitol today.

He won't vote Mc Carthy for GOP leader: "Jim Jordan, Jim Banks. Or we can go full disruption in Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz or Gosar."

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#374911: Sep 18th 2021 at 2:05:51 PM

I find the prospect that a political party with this sort of membership may very well gain a parliamentary majority next year.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#374912: Sep 18th 2021 at 2:11:38 PM

Well, just how troubling depends on just how big a percentage that group takes up. Given how few actually came to that rally, it may well be a fringe group at this point.

Optimism is a duty.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#374913: Sep 18th 2021 at 5:58:25 PM

My general understanding is that the rally was a bust in part because we ended up having conspiracy theories widely spread about the rally. The rally itself was of course built on a conspiracy theory.

This is an example of why conspiratorial thinking can be self defeating.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#374914: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:04:26 PM

AP News: North Carolina judges strike down state’s voter ID law

North Carolina judges struck down the state’s latest photo voter identification law on Friday, agreeing with minority voters that Republicans rammed through rules tainted by racial bias as a way to remain in power.

Two of the three trial judges declared the December 2018 law is unconstitutional, even though it was designed to implement a photo voter ID mandate added to the North Carolina Constitution in a referendum just weeks earlier. They said the law was rushed and intentionally discriminates against Black voters, violating their equal protections.

“Other, less restrictive voter ID laws would have sufficed to achieve the legitimate nonracial purposes of implementing the constitutional amendment requiring voter ID, deterring fraud, or enhancing voter confidence,” the judges added.

The majority decision, which followed a three-week trial in April, will be appealed, Republicans at the legislature said. A state appeals court had previously blocked the law’s enforcement last year. The law remains unenforceable with this ruling.

With a similar lawsuit in federal court set to go to trial this January and another state court lawsuit now on appeal, it’s looking more unlikely that the current voter ID law will be enforced in the 2022 elections.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#374915: Sep 18th 2021 at 11:47:27 PM

Any chance the same could happen in Texas?

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#374916: Sep 18th 2021 at 11:53:29 PM

The hard part for Texas is less the unconstitutionality in lower courts, it's the fact the Supreme Court didn't reject the enforcement mechanism. Ergo, the only way for anyone to bring a challenge against it is to break the law, wait for someone to sue them, and then challenge it in court.

Everything about it is unconstitutional, and the enforcement mechanism voids every provision explicitly listed in the Constitution by the back door, not just those described in SC rulings.

No wonder the public opinion of the Supreme Court has plummeted for letting that through. The only people that would approve of them are currently: A) living in a hole, or B) abortion-obsessed nuts detached from reality.

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#374917: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:00:50 AM

[up][up][up][up]Conspiracy theories about a rally that was formed from conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theory-ception.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#374918: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:18:24 AM

[up][up]I'm talking about the voting law, not the abortion one that promptly eclipsed it in news.

[up]Plus I'd say the name was poorly choosen. "Justice for January 6" sounds more like something Dems would attend, in the face of insurrectionists getting slaps on the wrist...

Edited by Medinoc on Sep 19th 2021 at 9:19:52 PM

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#374919: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:22:54 AM

"Justice for January 6" simply highlights the persecution complex that defines these assholes.

They really think they were the victims that day.

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#374920: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:06:45 AM

Now see, I was reading an article which said that other states are following Texas's lead at making not only similar abortion laws but also laws that apply the same concept (private individuals enforcing contentious provisions) to other things:

  • Missouri for violations of gun rights.
  • Tennessee for the supposed harm done by the presence of transgender individuals in bathrooms.
  • Kansas for people supposedly hurt by mask mandates.
  • Utah against websites that don't warn about the adverse impact pornography supposedly has on minors.
  • New York against gun manufacturers whose products were smuggled into the state.

This particular Pandora's box is widely open already.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#374921: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:16:33 AM

Wait, New York? Isn't that a Democratic state?

Optimism is a duty.
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#374922: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:18:04 AM

It's a way to pressure the Supreme Court to invalidate the concept.

Either they overturn it; the blue states start eliminating e.g. the Second Amendment; or they pick and choose what laws to keep and hand over an excuse to pack the court.

The question is if there's enough non-ideologues left on the right of the SC to realise what happens if they let it stand.

Edited by RainehDaze on Sep 19th 2021 at 9:20:24 AM

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#374923: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:26:52 AM

New York fights pretty dirty, between this and the planned gerrymandering.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#374924: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:47:16 AM

... Encouraging untrained citizens to apprehend gun smugglers on their own seems like a recipe for horrible disaster.

Optimism is a duty.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#374925: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:49:05 AM

And it has to, between the interplay of unfavourable geography and half-baked redistricting policies in Michigan and aggressive Republican efforts in Texas the soft touch approach isn't going to do anything good.

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