The General US Politics Thread

Me neither; I’d have guessed Warren was in her 40s or 50s.

Edited by Galadriel on Oct 6th 2019 at 8:38:54 AM

don't think so which is why whichever one of them wins, assuming any of them do, they're going to need a significantly younger running mate, someone at least 15-20 years younger.

Edited by tricksterson on Oct 6th 2019 at 8:36:44 AM

Yeah, she turned 70 in June this year.

Which is one reason we can forget a Warren-Sanders or a Sanders-Warren or even a Biden-Sanders ticket (no way in hell will any combo of Warren and Biden happen given how much personal enmity there is between them).

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2019 at 8:39:31 PM

If that were the case we would have already been hearing "What are we going to do when she goes through menopause in office" :/

Edited by Imca on Oct 6th 2019 at 5:36:29 AM

Sanders/AOC dream ticket!

Warren/AOC would also be acceptable.

(Slightly kidding; I’m pretty sure she’s not constitutionally old enough to be Veep.)

No. Making someone who hasn't even finished one term as a Rep the VP? No.

Besides, it's more likely they'll pick a more moderate candidate to appeal to more centrist voters, as 538 already pointed out.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2019 at 8:42:01 PM

Hey, Obama only had a partial Senate term when he ran for President.

Realistically, Warren would likely pick one of the candidates who are running outside of the top 3 candidates. Not Harris, the Dems would consider 2 women too risky. Maybe one of the 3 Bs (Booker, Buttigieg, someone else).

Edited by Galadriel on Oct 6th 2019 at 8:48:11 AM

Warren-Castro seems like the brewing alliance.

I wouldn't be so sure. That partnership was floated off a single text between them months ago. I haven't seen anything since.

There is a big difference between a Rep and a Senator.

And AOC is a goddamn hate magnet with terrible net approval numbers. She's great in her blue district/state, and as a distraction to the GOP, but I wouldn't put her anywhere near a general ticket at this point.

With Bernie getting discharged from his heart surgery, I'm not sure if the critics will rail on him due to age.

I'm pretty sure AOC is ineligible anyhow due to her age.

Absolutely this, Castro would be a natural choice for VP. He could act as a draw for Latinx voters and he's a young candidate who could do with some grooming for a future General primary.

I think he'd be an excellent choice.

And he's got Obama admin cred as a bonus.

Indeed, even more reason for him to be Warren's VP.

Especially after Hillary losing the majority of white women to a man who openly bragged about committing sexual assault, I am really sceptical of relying on identity politics.

That’s not a comment on policy of any kind; I mean that it’s unwise to operate on an electoral strategy of assuming “this candidate is [X group] so [X group] will vote for them”. It happened with Obama, but as mentioned previously, he had to work to gain the support of black voters; initially most supported Hillary. And the massive turnout among African-Americans was as much about Obama’s excellent voter registration campaign as it was about enthusiasm - he put a lot of work and skill into that victory.

That’s not to say anything against Julian Castro as a candidate; just that I don’t find “Hispanics will vote for him (more than they would for another Democrat)” a convincing argument.

Edited by Galadriel on Oct 6th 2019 at 9:31:33 AM

Whoever wins will likely pick someone more moderate (if Warren or Sanders) or more liberal (if Biden), has endorsed them already, and has relevant political experience (maybe a governor or ex-governor).

I don't see any of them picking another primaries candidate.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2019 at 9:38:16 PM

You seem to be assuming certainty that was not implied or stated, I said he could draw in latinx voters. Not that he definitely would.

Also, white women are white and Trump was a white identity candidate so if anything he supports the viability of identity politics. Just that racial identity, in that context, superseded gender identity.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 6th 2019 at 6:39:40 AM

358 actually did find that gender was one of the least influential identity factors. Partisanship, race, religion, all trumped it by a good margin.

I should note that race, historically, has usually been more important in terms of identity politics. If I'm not mistaken the majority of white women usually vote Republican, Trump isn't an exception. The idea of say, white women invoking solidarity with women of color over their gender identity is a relatively new development in that sense.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 6th 2019 at 10:43:48 AM

It's been known for a while that women don't vote in a bloc the way other minorities tend to do in the USA.

Don't forget that back in the Alabama election more white women voted for Roy Moore.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2019 at 10:47:38 PM

I still think it's possible for someone else to get the nom, Iowa and Nude Hamster (I'm from Matichuwitts so I get to call it that) notoriously screw with people's predictions, let's go with the supposed Big Three (I agree that it's more like Big Two but if we don't include Sanders you'll be able to here his acolytes whinging from space!).

As stated above they'll need someone younger, 15-20 years would be my guess. If it's Biden or Sanders it should be a woman and/or a Person of Color.

If it's Warren it will have to be a white male. Sorry but realistically you're not going to get elected without at least one of us on the ticket.

If it's Warren or Sanders it should be someone a bit to their right but to the left of Biden.

If it's Biden then it should be someone to his left but to the right of Sanders/Warren.

Edited by tricksterson on Oct 6th 2019 at 11:09:46 AM

Doing some simple division based on total raised and number of donors, Bernie's donors average 18 dollars donated each, Warren's donors average 26 dollars donated each, and Biden's donors average 44 dollars donated each.

Something of a reality check for the Never Bidens contained here.