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@Swanpride: Agreed. The thing with symbols (and even words sometimes) is that it's ok for them to mean different things in different cultures. Saying that America is backwards for using red and blue oppositely of Europe is a bit like saying China is backwards for using white as its mourning color.
Mind you, I'm also a little skeptical of the left-right scale in general personally.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
The left/right scale is kind of useful to get a sense for how the the parties stand to each other (and which ones are more likely to be able to work in some sort of coalition), but it certainly doesn't deliver a complete picture.
I think it's good for Dems that the red color ended up with the Republicans. For the sake of getting elected, the last thing they want is being even more associated with the Red Scare.
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Yeah, the Right's kinda ruined an entire color for everyone.
In Magic The Gathering, one of my favorite color combinations is Boros (Red/White). My BFF bought me this cool shirt for Christmas that has the Boros emblem on it, which is awesome.
I, uh. I don't wear it in public.
◊ Not in this political climate.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 16th 2018 at 11:10:30 AM
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You don't want to be mistaken for the Soros legion.
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As arbitrary as the colour association between red and the left started out—I think something about the split between the Marxists and Anarchists in the First Internationale—it is a pretty firmly entrenched one. There's even a song.
Edited by RainehDaze on Nov 16th 2018 at 6:34:41 PM
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My son's college colors are red and white, and they have a ton of merchandise that's just white text on red background, which we all know isn't a great association.
A preview of today's https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com :
Prosecutors inadvertently revealed secret criminal charges filed against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange in the U.S. by accidentally mentioning the charges in an unrelated court filing. "The court filing was made in error," said a spokesperson for the U.S. attorney's office in Virginia. "That was not the intended name for this filing." The charges against Assange center around the publication of emails from Democrats during the 2016 presidential campaign. (New York Times / Wall Street Journal)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/politics/julian-assange-indictment-wikileaks.html
To say nothing about the flags of Canada, Japan, etc.
Too bad the Republicans didn't choose the color Brown...
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In regards to symbols, I also find it ironic that the elephant is the associated animal with Republicans, given the current situation of the party is hardly dignified like an elephant would suggest. Plus, elephants are an endangered species and Trump lifted a law banning imports of elephant trophies, so it's not like the party respects their animal that much anyway. At least donkeys for democrats can lend you leeway with being called a jackass.
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@Commander Ace: The Democratic party's animal is an appropriated insult about Andrew Jackson being called a "Jackass".
The Republican party gets its mascot from a political cartoon showing a donkey (representing the Democrats) dressing up as a lion and scaring away a ton of other animals, except for an unimpressed elephant labelled "The Republican Vote".
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
It seems like red has been used a lot more often than blue has historically, in regards to political symbolism. Every time it was probably meant to go for Red Is Heroic, but I think more often than not it just symbolizes unchecked authoritarian power and aggression, regardless of political spectrum. Red can be seen as either heroic or evil. Blue tends to symbolize peace, calm and wisdom more often, and I'm cool with that.
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Pfft. F*cker, try. Another round of "BUT HER EMAILS THO" is going to have a hard time matching up the level of controversy and criminal behavior that they're clearly trying desperately to keep under wraps.
They're trying to play chicken but have failed to notice that they're the only ones actually standing on the tracks.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 16th 2018 at 1:51:34 PM
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Swanpride: I agree, left/right is way too simplistic. And it gives the Republican's bible-thumping crowd too much ammo, as they traditionally believe that left = evil.
@Star Outlaw: As far as I can tell, red tends to be a symbol for aggression and perhaps speed as well (and also Coca-Cola). In that light, I actually would argue that it makes a great deal of sense for the Republicans to be associated with red even from their own perspective, personally. "The Hot-Blooded Hero" trope is something that makes sense for Republicans to associate themselves with.
Most flags worldwide use at least some amount of red so it's hard to give it too specific a political meaning IMO. Having said that, a lot of red is associated with Anarchism, Communism, and Nazism. It's amusingly not a coincidence, either. Nazism appropriated a lot of socialist/communist imagery (which is why the Nazi flag is mostly red). Communism got red from anarchism IIRC.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
A procrastination in of itself
Red is generally associated with wars and bloodshed when it comes to flags, you see it so often on flags because a number of countries fought wars to become independent/fought a blood revolution and wanted to honour to dead by choosing a colour to represent the fallen.
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To quote Barby: "The blood of those who fight for their freedom!" <insert animation here>
By the way, Trump told the press earlier today that he's answered Mueller's questions (Guardian reporting).
Trump said he’s answered the questions sent by Mueller’s team. “I’ve answered them very easily. I’m working on them,” he said, stressing his lawyers aren’t the ones writing.
“You always have to be careful answering questions for people who have bad intentions.” “ I haven’t submitted them. I just finished them.”
“My lawyers aren’t working on it. I’m working on it. My lawyers don’t write the answers. I write the answers” said Trump. He added “The questions were answered by me.” Trump went on to describe what he was asked as “not very difficult questions.”
However, he did say “I haven’t submitted them yet. As you know, I’ve been a bit busy.”
Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 16th 2018 at 10:22:04 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Trump has this gift for change over time.
One day, he'll do a 180° in picoseconds.
Edited by Euodiachloris on Nov 16th 2018 at 10:32:08 AM
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It is indeed worth noting that children are basically inexperienced adult and are just as capable of being evil as adults are. Also, 10 is about old enough for someone to care about politics and have an ideology of some sort (including, potentially, a very bad one). That's about the age I started considering myself a conservative (then again I was a bit precocious).
Also I imagine an adult who'd write something like that probably would have done similar things as a kid.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Today's WTF Just Happened Today Update moved to next page
Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 16th 2018 at 5:05:27 AM
@Marq FJA: For what it's worth I actually would totally buy that a 10 year old would do something like that.
Hate speech of that sort from a child is grounds for very severe penalties as well. One could easily make the case for expelling the offender, for example.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"