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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#1: Jul 4th 2011 at 11:23:43 AM

Well, we need start it already. Sugestions? Voluntaries?

Judgement Abandon all hope. from In a padded cell. Since: Apr, 2011
Abandon all hope.
#2: Jul 4th 2011 at 5:33:59 PM

I volunteer to clean up Headscratcher pages that are chock-full of complaining.

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
KrisMahai Hm? Since: Jan, 2013
Hm?
#5: Jul 4th 2011 at 9:04:50 PM

^^ That was why it was renamed, so yes. Not all of the pages have been cleaned up from when it was IJBM, and some people persist in complaining anyway. Just clean up any you come across.

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DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#6: Jul 4th 2011 at 9:13:16 PM

[up]You just ninja'd me.

You know, I was cleaning the Batman page and it wasn't so bad. It was much less of flame/stupidfest than I expected, ecspecially for a franchise with such a wide audience. I was done in like 10 to 20 minutes.

edited 4th Jul '11 9:13:56 PM by DrStarky

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Judgement Abandon all hope. from In a padded cell. Since: Apr, 2011
Abandon all hope.
#8: Jul 5th 2011 at 8:15:40 AM

I think a few of those pages should be cut. Like the Real Life subsections "The World" and "Real Life in General". They are just complaining magnets.

Headscratchers about Tropes are turning into what Pet Peeve Trope once was. What do you think we should do about those? Should we remove the problematic ones or just try to tone down the complaining?

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#9: Jul 25th 2011 at 7:28:35 PM

I guess trope headcratchers are rather unnecessary.

wuggles Since: Jul, 2009
#10: Jul 25th 2011 at 8:30:23 PM

I think that the ones on real people should be deleted, especially the ones on musicians. They just turn into complain-fests and don't help anything. Just look at the Lady Gaga page or the Kesha page.

edited 25th Jul '11 8:30:54 PM by wuggles

CAD Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Jul 26th 2011 at 11:22:25 AM

So just to clarify, Headscratchers is about "Canon Q&A", not "Creator Q&A"? Meaning, we can discuss how a plot hole could make sense in-universe, rather than why some idiot writer introduced the plot hole?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12: Jul 26th 2011 at 11:40:18 AM

[up] Well, yeah, that's kind of obvious I thought. Your headscratcher can be, "Why did X happen the way it did?" but not, "Why did the idiot writers insert X Plot Hole?"

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Judgement Abandon all hope. from In a padded cell. Since: Apr, 2011
Abandon all hope.
#14: Sep 8th 2011 at 4:53:34 PM

I second cutting the Trope Headscratchers and the Creator Headscratchers. Especially the former, which people are using as a place for bitching about creators they don't like and nothing more.

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#15: Sep 8th 2011 at 6:26:54 PM

[up]Methinks you mean "the latter".

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#16: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:25:19 AM

I just had my attention called to World War Z and The Zombie Survival Guide, which have been taken over by a lot of author bashing and need cleaning. Someone needs to do this other than me, because if I do it, I'm going to purge both articles.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
unhappyyak :( from Minneapolis Since: Apr, 2009
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#17: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:24:19 AM

I just chainsawed out everything but the actual Headscratcher-type questions and an answer or two on World War Z. Let me know if I went too far. Fighteer, do you want me to put in a comment to keep out author bashing, etc.?

edited 16th Sep '11 8:24:52 AM by unhappyyak

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#18: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:43:19 AM

That's very good. I think we need some kind of banner on all Headscratchers pages (including the edit page) reminding people that it's not Just Bugs Me anymore.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
unhappyyak :( from Minneapolis Since: Apr, 2009
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#19: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:58:27 AM

Finished the Zombie Survival Guide one too. I think some of them were a holdover from IJBM, because the phrase was used word-for-word several times.

First key to interpreting a work: Things mean things.
SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#20: Oct 17th 2011 at 9:18:42 AM

I'll run through the Avatar The Last Airbender headscratchers myself.

Also, shouldn't this thread be in Special Efforts?

EDIT: derp. I'm tired.

edited 17th Oct '11 10:00:44 AM by SalFishFin

MangaManiac Since: Aug, 2010
#21: Oct 19th 2011 at 1:49:19 PM

On Headscratchers.Bob And George, is it okay if I remove the fourth one? It's not bile, but it's still essentially just a complaint.

Also, I'm not sure where the first one on that page belongs.

edited 19th Oct '11 1:50:00 PM by MangaManiac

MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#22: Oct 21st 2011 at 7:07:00 PM

[up]It is perfectly okay. I already deleted it, by the way.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23: Nov 27th 2011 at 2:35:20 PM

Well, this explains things, not complaining but at least all the cuts make sense.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#24: Dec 18th 2011 at 6:11:50 PM

Is this thread like the Natter Alert thread where tropers who are busy with other projects (or just overwhelmed by the crud, or unsure how much is OK to cut) can point out which pages are especially bad? Or is it assumed that all Headscratchers are horrible and need cleansing eventually. Or is pointing out pages without doing them ourselves bad manners?

edited 18th Dec '11 7:55:02 PM by ArcadesSabboth

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#25: Dec 22nd 2011 at 1:05:37 PM

Where The Hell Is Springfield is basically only Complaining and Complaining About Complaining. Can it simply be blanked, or is this off-topic here (the Ca C, not the Complain)?

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