General Looney Tunes / Assorted WB Animation (that isn't DC) Thread.

Oooh boy, this thing really doesn't look good to me, from the artstyle to Tweety calling Sylvester his brother.

Dolled-Up Installment, calling it now.

Everything from the designs to the animation looks hideous. Goodness.

The animation looks fine...

Just not really for Looney Tunes.

If this was anything original, it'd be serviceable...for TV.

Edited by randomness4 on Mar 22nd 2022 at 5:27:03 AM

...Honestly, the biggest thing I took from this was that the voice of the first dog servant that appeared in the trailer also voiced Comfortable Doug in Centaurworld.

Edited by jouXIII on Mar 22nd 2022 at 7:32:29 PM

The movie doesn't look very Looney Tunes style and isn't particularly impressive, but I liked a particular Genius Bonus joke: Tweety not only becomes the king of Canary Islands, fitting for a canary bird, but the majority of the island's inhabitants are dogs, which is how the real islands got their names: Pliny the Elder described the islands having a "vast multitudes of dogs of very large size", naming the place Canariae Insulae, the Islands of Dogs.

holy shit they finally did it. cal arts looney tunes

Nah, I kid. The "calarts style" thing is a bunch of bullshit, anyway. But... yeah. I'm not looking forward to this. I likely won't watch it just because it doesn't really attract my interest.

Apologies for the double post, but I'm actually looking forward to Bugs Bunny Builders. The art style is adorable and the preview I watched wasn't bad. I just wish he had more, considering it comes out this summer.

Mein Gott, King Tweety looks like trash. I'm starting to hate character redesigns as a matter of principle.

Considering what's going on recently, I only just learned Chuck Jones considerd Bugs as trans. I'm specifically looking for where he mentioned it.

Chuck Jones cartoons lend to that interpretation.

Not all of em.

But Bugs did do the thing the most in those shorts.

I can see where that idea's coming from, but Bugs only ever dresses like a woman to mess with people, which would seem to speak against it.

I've never seen evidence he actually said that. I did find an interview where he talks about how back when Bugs was dressing in drag, it was just a joke and most people wouldn't have seen anything more in it...

Personally, however, I think Bugs is like Ed Wood, a straight guy who has a thing for crossdressing...

Jones (allegedly) said Bugs was non-binary, not trans. That checks out to me. Bugs is like a trickster god—whatever he needs to be in order to manage his mischief.

This seems to be the source of the "Bugs is trans and Chuck Jones said so" thing. It does seem that Jones leaned toward Bugs *enjoying* the crossdressing in the gags.

Couldn't find evidence he said that either. You seem to instead be describing the Red Guy.

Like I said, Ed Wood...

Bugs certainly enjoys crossdressing but I don't think you can make a sensible case that he's straight. He's probably kissed more dudes than women.

Then he's bisexual with a thing for crossdressing...

Yeah, maybe. Or maybe he's non-binary. Dunno why the prospect makes you so uncomfortable. He's a cartoon rabbit—he can be anything we imagine.

To be charitable, enjoying crossdressing doesn't really say that much about your sexuality or gender identity on its own.

Also Bugs kissed males for the vast majority of the time just to screw with them.

It's fine to have interpretations but some people do miss why Bugs does things and some of his actions are just him having fun and screwing around rather than any serious attempts at portraying him as LGBT

I agree, cross-dressing does not connotate sexuality or gender. Especially when it is only done for gags or to screw around with people.

Idem for kissing guys, really. If anything, those are closer to gross-out jokes than to any indication of sexuality.

Bugs does seem to enjoy doing it a lot, at any rate. Which makes him a Memetic Molester, if anything.

Edited by Redmess on Apr 30th 2022 at 6:08:44 PM

Bugs has been shown to kiss guys but, as with his cross-dressing, he mostly only does it to mess with people. One classic-era cartoon did show him to have a girlfriend, and he's been shown on a number of occasions to pretty much lose his mind in the presence of an attractive female rabbit (or what he thinks is an attractive female rabbit—"Well? So she's mechanical!").

I always read him as straight, and comfortable enough with himself that he can play with it for the purposes of a joke.

If I seem reluctant to accept Bugs as trans, or non-binary, it's only because that in Bugs's case his actions are treated, by himself and the cartoons he's in, as jokes or pranks, and in the case of trans and non-binary people, their actions (dress, carriage, personal presentation) are definitely NOT meant to be jokes or pranks, but statements of personal identity.

Exactly. Cross-dressing for the purpose of pranks and jokes should not be taken as evidence of transgenderism, and doing so is rather damaging to acceptance of trans people as real persons rather than comedy fodder.

And on another level, I think this is just part of the desperate search for representation by the LGBT community, rather similar to how feminist scholars have acted towards female writers before circa 1900. In their eagerness to see their cause represented, they will shoehorn anything that even remotely looks like Representation (tm) into their cause.

Just like those feminist researchers see feminists everywhere they look, so do some trans people today.

Edited by Redmess on Apr 30th 2022 at 8:38:27 PM

It's largely trans people who have made Bugs a queer icon. We aren't damaging our own acceptance in doing that.

Hmm. True, and fair enough. I suppose then I should amend the above to say that the fact that he employs cross-dressing and kissing guys and such exclusively to mess with his antagonists is why he doesn't appear to be queer, or trans, or non-binary to me.