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ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#1: May 12th 2011 at 10:02:37 PM

Is it really any big a deal that Gurren Lagann is by Studio Gainax? i think I've seen stuff like "ohmygosh these people made evangelion but this is sooo different", even though, at that point, Anno (and other key Evangelion people, I think) had moved to Khara. So, Gurren Lagann is not really by the Neon Genesis Evangelion people. Maybe somebody already pointed this out some time ago, but I can't really tell.

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juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#2: Sep 25th 2011 at 10:36:11 AM

Part of the reason why it is constantly brought up, I think, it's because of the dissonance between the two and the fact that it was financed by the same people.

Because producers can't have varying tastes, am i rite?

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#3: Sep 25th 2011 at 10:41:56 AM

Is this another TTGL Debate thread? You do realize the mods still haven't unlocked the other two, right?

But I think its mainly seen as sort of an answer to the questions that NGE raised, for what its worth.

edited 25th Sep '11 10:43:06 AM by Scherzo09

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#4: Sep 25th 2011 at 10:43:11 AM

The first post was way back in May. This is a necro'd thread.

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#5: Sep 25th 2011 at 10:44:08 AM

[up]...Oh.

....Why?

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#6: Sep 25th 2011 at 10:44:28 AM

[up][up][up]This thread is a much older one. Plus, not really a debate, just something I've been wondering about...

@Juan:Yeah, but the creative aspects were handled by entirely different people. The fact that the same people financed them doesn't really say much, I think. edit: noticed the sarcasm.

[up]I linked to it in the chatterbox. Somebody mentioned the topic of Gurren Lagann threads. I decided to dig up old ones that weren't locked, especially the one I started.

edited 25th Sep '11 10:47:32 AM by ThatHuman

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Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Sep 25th 2011 at 11:42:13 AM

Any given major animation studio churns out shows by the dozens, often produced by different crews. In that respect, it's no surprise that they're producing wildly varying shows.

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#8: Sep 25th 2011 at 11:58:04 AM

Although I do believe that some parts of the series were made to contrast with NGE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFmGNqji4u0
Scherzo09 Revy Gonna Give It To Ya from Roanapur Since: Jul, 2010
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#9: Sep 25th 2011 at 11:59:15 AM

But Gainax actually makes a comparatively small amount of shows.

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#10: Sep 25th 2011 at 12:47:21 PM

According to IM Db, both Gurren Lagann and the first Rebuild of Evangelion came out in 2007 - are we sure the former wasn't done partly because the latter was in production?

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#11: Sep 25th 2011 at 12:58:35 PM

Way I figure it, it was the other way around.

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#12: Sep 25th 2011 at 1:05:10 PM

[up]Well I mean, TTGL didn't really seem to rub off on Rebuild until the second movie.

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#13: Sep 25th 2011 at 1:22:27 PM

It should be noted though that Gainax isn't working on the Rebuild films, the primary animation is done by khara inc, Anno's own studio.

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#14: Sep 25th 2011 at 2:36:14 PM

Here's the timeline I was thinking of:

  1. Anno starts working on Rebuild Of Evangelion
  2. Gainax exec finds out, gets annoyed.
  3. Said exec sees a proposal for Gurren Lagann and greenlights it ought of spite.

Remember that ROE 1.0 came out in the same year, so it's almost certain TTGL had no influence on it. 2.22, on the other hand, I could easily believe had been affected. wild mass guessUnless TTGL was just to test the waters for 2.22...wild mass guess

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#15: Sep 25th 2011 at 2:44:15 PM

Or Anno and Imaishi had the same idea. Which wouldn't surprise me, given that the latter also worked on Evangelion.

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#16: Sep 25th 2011 at 3:29:24 PM

Gainax made Gunbuster in the... eighties, I think, and Diebuster in 2002. TTGL was hardly their first hotblooded super robot show.

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#17: Sep 25th 2011 at 3:31:35 PM

[up]Gainax made something other than Evangelion?????????

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#18: Sep 25th 2011 at 3:35:14 PM

Shocking, we know tongue

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#19: Sep 25th 2011 at 7:10:08 PM

[up][up][up]...I thought Super Robot shows were Hot-Blooded by their very nature for the most part.

edited 25th Sep '11 7:10:23 PM by Scherzo09

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#20: Sep 25th 2011 at 8:48:55 PM

Well, first of all, you'd need to determine whether you consider a Super Robot show a show whose most prominent mecha are Super, or if it's a genre. If the former, then it's far too broad a classification for it to be reasonable to say "most Super Robot shows are Hotblooded", with stuff like Rah Xephon, Ideon, NGE and Fafner, among others. If you pick the latter, then you have to properly define what the Super Robot Genre entails... and that is not an easy task, at all.

Hell, it's hard enough to determine which robot's a Super and which one a Real.

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#21: Sep 25th 2011 at 9:38:57 PM

[up]Well 'real' to me means that the mecha themselves are treated as military hardware, and so war tropes and restrictions are usually applied to them.

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#22: Sep 25th 2011 at 9:48:10 PM

[up][up] Wait wait wait. So if a Super Robot show is not defined by its hot bloodedness, logically, a Real Robot show could be equally hot blooded. If so, what is its name and where can I get a hold of a copy??

edited 25th Sep '11 9:48:34 PM by Thanatoast

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#23: Sep 25th 2011 at 11:19:02 PM

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#24: Sep 26th 2011 at 2:38:53 AM

Honestly the distinction was caused by Banpresto. A lot of people claim that Real Robots are realistic, to which I laugh when I point them flying butterflies, fairy dusts, fairy magic, and etc.

It's not even angst either, as Zambot3 is full of it and even Voltes V.

Japan doesn't seem to care though, and simply perceive the division as temporary. I'm reminded of this image macro with panels that has - In Japan fans: We call super robot wars because they're SD and they show their awesomeness! We call real robot regiment (regimen?) because they're in 3D and not in SD! In US fans: HURRR G GUNDAM IS NOT REAL OMG WTF

edited 26th Sep '11 2:45:45 AM by Ookamikun

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#25: Sep 26th 2011 at 2:48:00 AM

perceive the division as temporary.

Nope. The real manifestation of the categories is whatever a show is marketed as. If a hypothetical new Getter Robo series is advertised as Real Robot Genre or a new VOTOMS is advertised as Super Robot Genre then that's what they'll be.


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