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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#52426: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:48:13 PM

Also usually Super Sonic boss fights usually have you fight the boss for a bit rather than just switching character every five seconds (which can happen here if Final Hazard isn't landing it's laser piss or unborn children at you). Though i admit this last is nitpicky it does led to the final battle feeling a little... empty and boring.

"Time Eater"

I admit I have a nostalgic bias towards it as I feel it's one of the better SS boss fights. Then again it's one of the few I reached.

Edited by Fedetropes on Jul 2nd 2020 at 11:49:58 AM

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#52427: Jul 2nd 2020 at 8:02:12 PM

I'm not sure how it'd feel less empty if you weren't switching...you'd just have to fly around it otherwise.

Leading to it being more boring.

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#52428: Jul 2nd 2020 at 8:02:49 PM

I always thought you could get a potentially interesting Super Sonic boss fight if it involved him battling Eggman while at the same time rescuing allies and/or animal critters from some nefarious trap/s. Basically shift the sense of danger and threat away from Sonic losing all his rings just a bit and towards the risk of those he cares about being harmed.

It can be annoying if done badly, but I don't know, I like the potential tone of heroics and badassery via Sonic both whooping Eggman and saving people at the same time. Give the eventual victory a real sense of accomplishment from the player doing a rescue.

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#52429: Jul 2nd 2020 at 8:50:41 PM

"Man, I wonder why do people compare Vegeta and Shadow when they're nothing alike"

"Your guess is as good as mine"

Some of these are pretty amusing tho.

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#52430: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:30:55 PM

  • Sonic: Goku
    • Super Sonic: Super Saiyan Goku
      • Classic Sonic: DB Kid Goku
  • Shadow: Vegeta
    • Super Shadow: Super Saiyan Vegeta
  • Silver: Future Trunks
    • Super Silver: Super Saiyan Future Trunks
  • Tails: Krillin
    • Classic Tails: Kid Krillin
  • Knuckles: Piccolo
    • Classic Knuckles: DB Piccolo
  • Amy: Chi-Chi
    • Classic Amy: Kid Chi-Chi
  • Eggman: Dr. Gero
  • Metal Sonic: Cell
  • Scourge: Goku Black
  • Blaze: Future Mai, Ribrianne?, Jiren?, Caulifla?

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:38:26 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#52431: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:37:13 PM

Blaze is Android 18.

She's the coolest female character in the series by far. it's an apt comparison.

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#52432: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:38:39 PM

No, I don't think that works. She makes more sense as either Silver's tag-along as a parallel to Future Mai or as an AU counterpart to Sonic, which leaves her with the options of Ribrianne, Jiren, or Caulifla.

I was actually considering Rouge for 18, but some bits don't quite line up.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:39:29 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#52433: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:49:22 PM

Well I still say 18, but then again, I'm biased since I hate Future Mai (stop being in a relationship with Trunks! You're too damned old for him, de-aged or not!), don't care for Ribrianne (she had a good thing going, but Toei overdid it with the Love Freak theme), definitely don't care for Jiren, outside of loving that initially beating he gave to Goku, and am annoyed Cauliffa gets to be a Super Saiyan while Pan is still deliberately being hung out to dry.

So yeah. Very biased. I like 18. I like Blaze, so I associate them. If you are looking at it more thematically, than I can get why you'd be against it.

That being said, it's either Blaze or Rouge for 18. There are no other choices.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#52434: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:53:18 PM

Imo, Tails is basically what you'd get if you mashed Krillin and Kid Gohan into a single character role. You get that "I want to make Sonic proud of me / I want to be great like Sonic / I don't want to fail Sonic / etc" (complete with a few "steps up and saves the day" moments in the Adventure titles) stuff from Kid Gohan, but also the Non-Action Guy Muggle Best Friend "fawning sidekick" stuff from Krillin. One of the Sonic redraws on twitter likens him to Goten, though.

I love how after Super Mario Bros. Z everyone's just kind of in agreement that Metal Sonic is Cell.

I'd say at the moment the closest analogue to Eggman in Dragonball is Freeza, simply because he's the closest thing the Dragonball series has to a proper Archenemy character at this point. Plus, he too does the whole "finds a super monster he thinks he can control, grooms that monster to fight his enemies, except it goes haywire and kicks his ass instead" thing in Broly.

Also, Amy has more in common with Kid Chichi than she ever had with Adult Chi Chi. Modern Amy's I guess kind of a mix of OG Bulma and Chi Chi's personalities. Not that everyone in Sonic needs a Dragonball analogue.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:15:00 AM

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#52435: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:58:12 PM

Now that I think about it, Tails is like a combination of Krillin (ernest best friend to Sonic) and Bulma (Sonic's first friend and The Smart Guy Gadgeteer Genius).

[up]And I guess a bit of Kid Gohan, too.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:59:34 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#52436: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:05:18 PM

Tails is yea, an amalgamation of three separate characters.

....I really wish there was a Dragon Ball story that let Goku interact with other characters per story arc aside from the standard Vegeta, bulma and the like.

Even Sonic did that...before 2010.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#52437: Jul 2nd 2020 at 11:01:40 PM

Omega's Android 17, right? Turned on his master immediately and does whatever he wants who eventually mellows out?

Gamma would be 16, down to them both dying to never return, I guess.

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#52438: Jul 2nd 2020 at 11:08:30 PM

Makes sense, but don't forget the bird connection. I guess Chaos would be King Piccolo, maybe? Or maybe Buu?

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 2nd 2020 at 11:09:51 AM

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#52439: Jul 3rd 2020 at 1:13:15 AM

Some extras DB comparisons:

Big -> Yajirobe

Cream -> Marron

Gamma -> Android 16

Espio-> Tien

Charmey -> Goten?

Vector->Yamcha?

Edited by 123tbones on Jul 3rd 2020 at 1:16:30 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#52440: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:16:02 AM

Chaos also has some Beerus (God of Destruction) and Freeza (Genociding Knuckles'/Piccolo's race) going on.

Mephiles/Iblis/Solaris are a clear-cut Zamasu.

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#52441: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:27:41 AM

Meh, I think of Shadow not as any Dragon Ball character but instead as bloody Inuyasha of all things. Remember this?:

: As I was reading that Twitter thread, I was actually thinking that Shadow has more similarities to Inu Yasha than even Vegeta I feel.

Here's why:

Both are ultra-powerful beings in their universes (Inu Yasha due to being a half-demon, and Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform) Both were hated earlier in their life (Humans and demons hated Inu Yasha for a large portion of his life, while Shadow was feared by GUN). Both had a close female relation (Kikyo and Maria) Both had their relationships with said female end sour. (Inu Yasha and Kikyo were tricked into trying to kill each other, while Maria was shot by the soldier) Similar temperments Both were sealed away for 50 years until they were released by someone related to their past female relation (Kagome is Kikyo's reincarnation, while Eggman is the cousin of Maria). Both end up having another close female relation in the present time (Kagome again for Inu Yasha, Rouge for Shadow). Both of them tend to feel used by others or given a ton of abuse (Inu Yasha tends to take a lot of abuse from Kagome, Miroku, Sango, and Shippo in addition to his less than stellar relationship with his brother Sesshomaru; while Shadow after being revived has been used by Eggman, Black Doom, Rouge and Omega for their own goals).

I don't think a whole lot of this is intentional, though Shadow was created when Inu Yasha was very popular in Japan.

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#52442: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:31:06 AM

Yea, but he's always going to be Vegeta to everyone else.

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#52443: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:35:59 AM

Well, I think that those people can take their Vegeta fantasies about Shadow and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:36:23 AM

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#52444: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:40:16 AM

So who's Rouge's DB counterpart?

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#52445: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:47:22 AM

I just liked the picture of Shadow in the BADMAN shirt.

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#52446: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:52:58 AM

> So who's Rouge's DB counterpart?

I don't think there is a Dragon ball equivalent for Rouge although..

(she's Bulma apparently)

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 3rd 2020 at 11:56:59 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#52447: Jul 3rd 2020 at 4:58:00 AM

Bulma's guile side; she is a colossal asshole, while Tails is not.

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#52448: Jul 3rd 2020 at 5:42:51 AM

>2020

>People still make STH/DB comparisons

(I'm only half joking with this BTW).

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#52449: Jul 3rd 2020 at 6:00:20 AM

Not relevant to the conversation but I just had to share this Rouge as Ada Wong fanart that link lead me to.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#52450: Jul 3rd 2020 at 7:33:06 AM

I thought the twitter takeover made everyone realize Shadow was a Kill La kill character the whole time, but I guess not.


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