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ZeroDozer Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! from Santo André, SP, Brazil Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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#2151: Sep 8th 2018 at 10:25:12 PM

Wait, what!? Does that mean Street Fighter V is done for!? Are the Capcom executives out of their minds?

Edited by ZeroDozer on Sep 9th 2018 at 5:21:19 AM

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#2152: Sep 9th 2018 at 4:55:50 AM

[up] Calm down now.

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#2153: Sep 9th 2018 at 9:38:00 AM

Sorry. I just want to understand how Capcom replaces the one guy who keeps Street Fighter working with a guy that probably knows nothing about fighting games. This one is edited because I took a wrong information, he's the COO's brother, but son of of one of Capcom's founders.

I won't stop him from trying. But I'll say that the prognosis doesn't look good. I hope to be proved wrong on that account.

Meanwhile, on Eventhubs, people warring over whether Ono's departure was for better or for worse and affirming he's still on Street V (I hope that he's at least still involved on directing SFV).

Edited by ZeroDozer on Sep 9th 2018 at 6:23:45 AM

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#2154: Sep 9th 2018 at 11:54:34 AM

So an idea I've seen kicked around a lot about why fighting games are as niche as they are, regardless of things like control schemes or their long learning curves.

In a game like Overwatch or Hearthstone, there's plausible cause for a loss other than a lack of skill on your part: either someone else you were teamed up with was incompetent, your luck was bad, or your opponent was overly lucky, etc.

In a one-on-one fighting game, though, short of blaming lag or bad match ups, the onus of winning is entirely on you and thus, when you lose, it's your fault. There's no one to point fingers at otherwise.

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#2155: Sep 9th 2018 at 12:41:20 PM

I think this has been discussed before that yeah you can only blame one of two things if you lose: yourself or the game. And if people don't want to blame themselves, they quit the game.

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#2156: Sep 9th 2018 at 12:51:49 PM

Yeah I kinda feel the popularity of the MOBA Genre has nixed the "Complexity" argument awhile ago (Although I wouldn't mind more games like Fantasy Strike) so there are definitely other factors at work.

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#2157: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:04:43 PM

I just want to understand how Capcom replaces the one guy who keeps Street Fighter working with a guy that probably knows nothing about fighting games. As an extra, it does really not help that he's the CEO's son.

It's quite simple. Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite was a very public embarrassment for the company (and while it improved with the DLC fighters and the Arcade Edition re-release, Street Fighter V started off in an awkward spot as well), while Monster Hunter proved to be the most massive success they've had in quite a while.

Edited by comicwriter on Sep 9th 2018 at 2:07:57 AM

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#2158: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:23:24 PM

It makes perfect sense to me. As I said before, I hope he proves me wrong on my fears and ends up bringing about some "Capcom Renaissance of Fighting Games".

Also, I heard he takes fan input way more seriously and he can talk executives down, so there is some strange hope in this guy.

Edited by ZeroDozer on Sep 9th 2018 at 6:28:30 AM

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#2159: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:28:20 PM

[up]Probably because he's the son of the current Chairman of Capcom. Which might explain why Monster Hunter has been relatively untouched over the years...

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#2160: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:45:56 PM

Well, I'm not a Monster Hunter fan myself, but given how people love the franchise, I want to see what he'll do with the fighting games.

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#2161: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:48:10 PM

I mean I suppose nepotism can be used for good.

But yeah Street Fighter V was not a complete game at launch. Neither was MVCI, but people didn't bother giving it a chance to become one.

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#2162: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:50:11 PM

And they shouldn't have of course.

When a game is released, it has to be released complete.

Street Fighter V may have survived but its rep was irreparably damaged because of that.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 9th 2018 at 2:50:16 AM

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#2163: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:52:34 PM

I actually gave Street V a chance once Arcade Edition came. And I never complained about its gameplay.

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#2164: Sep 9th 2018 at 3:26:19 PM

The change in directors happened back in April. Ono was still promoting SFV at EVO this year which implies he's more of a PR person?

Why Event Hubs decided to an article on that now is beyond me.

Edited by IceAnt573 on Sep 9th 2018 at 6:26:04 AM

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#2165: Sep 9th 2018 at 11:09:38 PM

But yeah Street Fighter V was not a complete game at launch. Neither was MVCI, but people didn't bother giving it a chance to become one.

Which cement my hatred towards both Marvel & Capcom because of that.

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#2166: Sep 10th 2018 at 3:29:50 AM

Guess what's back?

Edited by Emperordaein on Sep 10th 2018 at 8:33:49 PM

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#2167: Sep 10th 2018 at 3:31:39 AM

Link's not working.

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#2169: Sep 10th 2018 at 3:38:51 AM

Awesome as it looks, I'm gonna wait for more roster reveals before going full hype. Hanzo and Genjuro are shoe-ins, but I'm really pulling for Cham Cham.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#2171: Sep 10th 2018 at 3:57:35 AM

The graphics look miles better than King of Fighters XIV. I'm getting major Street Fighter vibes art style wise sans the Street Fighter goofiness.

Edited by Hashil on Sep 10th 2018 at 5:01:04 AM

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#2172: Sep 10th 2018 at 6:01:01 AM

That's all thanks to the Unreal Engine, which KOF XIV didn't use, having to certainly have less characters in the base game, and the experience gained from KOF XIV.

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#2174: Sep 10th 2018 at 7:20:29 AM

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So I guess eventually Darkstalkers has to come back for real huh?

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#2175: Sep 10th 2018 at 7:36:25 AM

We'll have to convince Capcom there's money in it first.


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