Puella Magi Madoka Magica

Read Oriko. If you'd prefer something unrelated to the main plot, read Kazumi. If you want more with the mains, read Different Story or Homura's Revenge. If you want to move on to Rebellion read Wraith Arc first. And if you like historical manga read Tart.

Imo Suzune isn't worth reading.

Oissu!

If it helps, check out this awesome cosplay.

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If you want Magical Girls just being happy and gay together, just watch the My Diary With You and the Reaching A Happier Height events on youtube on repeat for hours.

Fight for something, even if its meaningless.

Kyouko, probably. Or, to put a different spin on it, Kyubey...

Finally tried out the mobile game; I haven't really played standard gacha games before, but I don't quite get how it makes enough money, seems to be no reason to buy gems unless you want to dive down a black hole of "fate weaving." Would have to play an excessive amount to ever run out of AP, especially with the 2 free 50-potions from daily missions. Haven't drawn an original-series character yet (maybe that's what people are paying for, the support roster is crammed with level 100 Madokas) but did get Emotionless Girl and Hiking Hibiki from the last event.

The story/stories are alright, though the need to have a battle in every single episode gets kind of jarring at times. Killing the same boss repeatedly is especially weird.

Yeah, the battles aren't super well integrated into the narrative. Especially when the story says you're fighting a magical girl and the game just throws more random familiars at you.

As for gacha games in general, their bread and butter is the small number of people throwing thousands of dollars at waifu jpegs. Blessed are the whales, because they let people like us get free entertainment.

Yeah, the fights are pretty horribly integrated. A lot of times, they spring up just because a chapter is obligated to have a fight, even when nothing in the chapter's story warrants one.

"What do you think about that peanut butter sandwich?" FIGHT SCENE DESTROY FAMILIARS "I think it's pretty good. Thank you for making me a sandwich."

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 14th 2019 at 12:54:35 PM

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The OG Quintet (except for Homura, who's a welfare, and Sayaka lol) are all 5*, and they all get super special transformation sequences when you pull them. Most of the spinoff girls are either in the game or will be added in the future, you have Oriko, Kirika and Yuma as launch characters and the current event is Kazumi Magica with Kazumi and Kaoru in the gacha and Umika as an event welfare.

As you can probably tell from my current profile pic, I'm a huge fan of Rika and Ren, aka Lesbian Madokaface and Magical Mashu.

Fight for something, even if its meaningless.

What about the other Kazumi girls? The current event only has the surviving three.

Not in the game yet, unfortunately. But Tart Magica had an additional event that added Eliza in after the others so maybe they'll get in one day.

And I will be a broke woman on that day from chasing Saki.

Oissu!

Tart event had a Part 2 that added Eliza, so it's very possible that the Kazumi event has a Part 2, especially since both Kaoru and Umika have datamined Doppel animations.

Strangely enough the Oriko cast has been in the gacha since launch but there haven't been any Oriko events or really any events featuring the Oriko cast at all.

Fight for something, even if its meaningless.

Looking across franchises, I wouldn't be surprised if the Incubators were harvesting SP Energy from Magical Girls by ensuring that Soul Gems contain stolen technology from the Sagitta Civilization, thus making the Witches a form of Ba'al.

Edited by AceOfScarabs on Aug 16th 2019 at 4:07:18 PM

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!

I was actually thinking of a similar thing, the Ba'al are manifestations of the memories of Altair and Vega created by Providence and all.

"Analay, an original fan character from a 2006 non canon comic. Do not steal!"

Nah, the Witches are Ba'als made from the magical girl's own emotions and memories.

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!

Oddly enough, I just discovered a song "Wenn ich mir was wuenschen duerfte" (or "If I were to wish for something"), by the 1930s Austrian cabaret singer Greta Keller, and I can't help but feel that the lyrics fit the themes of Madoka pretty well:^note This is my own translation, and I'm only starting to take German (and it was made with the help of Google Translate), so it probably misses some of the point

Edited by SantosLHalper on Aug 21st 2019 at 7:37:35 AM

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I've a few questions for Magia Record players.

• Assuming the continuation of its primary story isn't in the same place of the continuation of the anime (read:limbo), what do you want to see in it? What direction do you think the story will go?
• What are your estimates on when NA gets Chapter 10?
• Are there any standouts/favorites from Magireco's cast?

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Sep 1st 2019 at 7:40:22 AM

I think that the Chiharu event, which showed that the concept of a town leadership knowing about Magical Girls and exploiting it, shows potential for some real interesting stuff, it reminded me of YuYuYu.

It's really hard to tell at this point since NA has gone at such a breakneck pace that they've already exhausted all the non-holiday events before the New Year. Right now NA has basically the very first break from constant events that its ever had, if you don't count Ranked Mirrors as an event. My prediction is May 2020 since once we get into holiday events they can probably coast on those for a while, and they may even do the first and second year summer events back to back.

As you can probably guess from my current PFP, Rika and Ren have had a real impact on me. Their relationship isn't just adorable, it's also really healthy. Both of them are just very likable and interesting (not to mention very cute), and it's just really nice to see two girls who have been through some emotional trauma heal each other. Also Ren's crush on Rika is very obvious and very adorable. They inspired me to a point where I actually wrote my very first fanfiction about the two of them. Also my Ren has three slots and she kicks ass in Mirrors.

Edited by Uninstall on Sep 1st 2019 at 10:58:01 AM

Fight for something, even if its meaningless.

• From the on-going anniversary interlude between Green Jesper and the second arc, where the main branch of the Tokime clan eliminates a pretender that basically sell the clan girls' wishes to the rich before gathering their ranks to investigate Kamihama, combined with the new opening, the arc is likely about the Tokime clan invading Kamihama under Kyubey's nudging. This basically answers the ongoing plot in the Another Story about how other cities start running out of witches to hunt and the effect about the Magius' hoarding of witches to the outside population of magical girls. The Magius might be aborting their plan to observe and take control of the Law of Cycle, but there's a looming threat about how the Doppel barrier might be shrinking and magical girls coming at bulks because really, they really want to save themselves and a city that basically negates their life sentence is too juicy not to occupy.
• In my opinion, the pace starts to slow down because they start to run out of event. They did already delay the Halloween event, which causes the initial Wham Episode in Chapter 5 about Alina to lose a lot of its steam. If they continue the initial accelerated pace, the next story relevant shock that NA would trample the narrative ambience of would be when Holy Mami appears. But we no longer have the back to back event to the point of next event maintenance in the middle of an on-going event, so I speculate that Holy Mami gets an Early-Bird Cameo before the Christmas event gacha, but not too far. Which puts the Chapter 10 at the latest in April 2020, because the final battle has to be in Walpurgisnacht for sake of immersion.
• I got a lot of favorites. Ren got a lot of character moments in game, not just her event, and it helps a lot to show just how much she's growing. She's voiced by Yuka Ozaki, who voiced Serval, so I absolutely support her. Her cameo in the last stretch of the main story is really awesome. Kanagi is generally a very reasonable, just, and badass Supporting Leader. I already have a feeling she's going to be that one person who would take care of the mess in background from the twins' side stories. My absolute favorite might be Mito who, while at the first glance seems like a handful and obnoxiously cheerful, end up being the best side character at magical girling. She's emotionally stable, strong as hell, her personal magic is really useful at cutting any potential Idiot Plot short, she practically carries her event's story, and she's really smart. She basically beats Kyubey as a Rules Lawyer to the point of him running off from her badgering questions. If Nanaka needs her entire side story and wish to notice that there's something wrong with Kyubey, Mito already senses it before she contracted, badgers him with questions to the point of not falling into his usual trapping, makes a wish that would specifically give her power to foil his future manipulations, and still badgers him anyway to make sure she doesn't miss anything. Her voiced lines are still obnoxious tho.

Okay I'm wondering if there's any memoria with passive Regen abilities, and also why certain memoria use the same idea of a magical girl amid a field of flowers?

The Memoria "Unwavering Light" (the 4* one with Madoka on it) gives HP regen and negate bind, there are a couple of others that do so as well like "Those Days Are Gone".

The flower field background memorias are basically just showcasing plot-important girls, so Nanami-ke and the Mitakihara Quintet. Strangely enough, Asuka gets such a memoria too, and that along with a few details such as being drawn by Ume Aoki (who only drew the main magireco characters) and her slightly more elaborate transformation sequence suggest that she was possibly meant to be a main character at some point.

Fight for something, even if its meaningless.

So the Incubators are an Always Lawful Evil race of sociopaths? I know its more Blue-and-Orange Morality mixed with Moral Sociopathy, but humans(aka the people who watch and write the show) are hardwired to believe empathy=good, Lack of Empathy equals bad, so Incubators=bad

I think that the proper answer to that is that good and evil is relative. The Incubators' goal is to prevent the heat death of the universe, and I would say that preserving the universe is good. However, they are willing to sacrifice entire planets to achieve that goal; it's good on a large scale, but evil on a smaller scale.

I think that at the very least, Madoka said it best when she called the Incubators "humanity's enemy."

Fight for something, even if its meaningless.

Even that is ambiguous, to be honest. The show presents the idea that humanity is actually better off due to the Incubator's influence than they would have been otherwise — it's implied that human progress throughout history is due, directly or indirectly, to Incubators and magical girls. I forget the exact line, but it's mentioned at some point that Incubators have been granting wishes since humans were living in caves, and that without Incubator intervention, humanity would still be living in caves. That's part of the reason why Madoka didn't wish magical girls away entirely, as doing so presumably would have erased all that progress.

Note that the only time the whole planet was at risk was with Madoka's witch, which was only as powerful as it was because of Homura's timelooping shenanigans. Walpurgis was a threat to the city, but three or four magical girls working together were able to defeat it (even if most or all of them died or witched out in the process), so it definitely wasn't a world-ending threat. The Incubators have no reason to arrange the destruction of the planet, as that means they lose a major source of energy — though when faced with Madoka's witch, they apparently decide to cut their losses and pull out rather than (presumably) spending a large amount of energy to deal with it.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

That's not entirely accurate.

The Incubators knew exactly how devastating Gretchen would be, because they knew how great Madoka's potential was. And yet, they go out of their way to try and recruit Madoka as a Magical Girl. They set in motion the events that would lead to the destruction of the planet, 'cause they determined that the short-term energy produced by Gretchen outweighs the long-term benefit of the Earth.

When Gretchen is preparing to destroy the world, Kyubey has a whole bit about how Madoka, by herself, has filled their quota.

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Worth noting in Tart that Kyubey/Cube is really worried about Le Crepscule de la Reine, which could have torn up Europe and presumably proceeded to cause issues on a global scale. Not the same as planet-destroying, but seemingly Incubators don't want the Earth destroyed if their quota would go unfulfilled as a result.

Edited by PhiSat on Sep 5th 2019 at 1:36:01 PM

Oissu!

That's pretty much it.

The Incubators see human life through a strictly utilitarian lens. If it means they fill their quota, they are more than happy to kill the planet. But they won't do it For the Lulz. Humans, to them, exist to serve one specific purpose and have no value beyond it.

We are, as Kyubey literally says, livestock to them.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 5th 2019 at 1:55:08 PM

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