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HamburgerTime My OTP is more obscure than yours from Obscure ship avatar for February Relationship Status: I know
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Dec 17th 2019 at 3:07:58 PM

I have to say I hope Bond doesn't take Paloma for a ride in the sack. Knives Out shows that Daniel Craig and Ana de Armas do legitimately have great chemistry, but their characters in that movie have more of a mentor/student or Cool Uncle/neice-type relationship, and seeing them go from that to lovers would, at least to me, have a ton of awkwardness with some Tanya Roberts-style creepitude thrown in too.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Dec 17th 2019 at 7:02:42 PM

They shouldn’t be a couple because of the interactions between their characters in a completely different movie?

I don’t get that.

Though I like there being female characters who don’t sleep with Bond. The rapport between him and Camille in QOS was good.

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Dec 17th 2019 at 7:04:05 PM

It'd seem weird to me, is what I'm saying.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Dec 17th 2019 at 8:34:25 PM

[up][up] Also, there was Wai Lin.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
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Dec 18th 2019 at 4:17:11 AM

I don't really mind, I tend to see characters, not actors, except for a few cases where the actor is basically acting like themselves in every movie they are in.

dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Dec 18th 2019 at 2:42:19 PM

[up] Same with me. I can disassociate Craig's version of Bond from other characters he's played, like Benoit Blanc and Connor Rooney.

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dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Dec 18th 2019 at 9:29:15 PM

and seeing them go from that to lovers would, at least to me, have a ton of awkwardness with some Tanya Roberts-style creepitude thrown in too.

Actually, it's funny you bring that up because I'm pretty sure that Bond and Stacy hooking up in A View to a Kill would've been less awkward with Timothy Dalton or even Pierce Brosnan in the part as they were much younger than Roger Moore.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
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Dec 19th 2019 at 3:59:12 AM

But that's more an age issue than one with their characters being related in a different movie.

HamburgerTime My OTP is more obscure than yours from Obscure ship avatar for February Relationship Status: I know
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Dec 28th 2019 at 10:33:43 PM

I hope this one has another Dench cameo.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Dec 28th 2019 at 11:57:05 PM

Bond should have a cat named Old Deuteronomy and that's Dench's cameo.

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
Jan 2nd 2020 at 7:58:17 PM

Yo, all four of the Pierce Brosnan movies are on Netflix right now. Catch them if you haven't or it's been a while.

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Jan 2nd 2020 at 8:04:57 PM

Brosnan good.

Except Die Another Day.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Jan 2nd 2020 at 8:36:25 PM

I'd like to remind everyone that Garbage did the theme song for The World Is Not Enough and it's a banger:

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
LEGENDARY GALE
Jan 2nd 2020 at 9:17:50 PM

I think the title sequence for The World Is Not Enough might be my favorite in the franchise.

but HOW?
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
Jan 3rd 2020 at 7:50:23 AM

[up][up]You don't need to remind me. That's one of my favorites.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
HamburgerTime My OTP is more obscure than yours from Obscure ship avatar for February Relationship Status: I know
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Jan 3rd 2020 at 10:35:32 AM

The whole movie is criminally underrated. Even Dr. Jones would be tolerable, even likable, if she was played by someone actually believable as a scientist.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Jan 3rd 2020 at 12:55:05 PM

Speaking of the Brosnan movies, Tomorrow Never Dies is more relevant now than back when it was made, considering:

The main villain's plot involves trying to control the political discourse via having a stranglehold on the media.

Edited by PhoenixAct on Jan 3rd 2020 at 8:55:23 PM

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Jan 4th 2020 at 7:48:49 PM

Another thought on World is not Enough... is it just me or is it basically a Manic Pixie Dream Girl movie from Hell?

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
M84 Light our darkest hour! from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Light our darkest hour!
Jan 6th 2020 at 2:58:03 AM

Are you talking about how Elektra King essentially plays the role for both Bond and Renard?

Disgusted, but not surprised
Jan 6th 2020 at 3:06:58 AM

A Manic Pixie Dream Girl from hell would be a stalker pulling the hero into the adventure. Electra is more of a traditional Femme Fatale with the twist of being the actual villain, and I believe the only female Bond Big Bad.

HamburgerTime My OTP is more obscure than yours from Obscure ship avatar for February Relationship Status: I know
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Jan 6th 2020 at 5:17:17 PM

I mean when you think about it...

You have Bond, right? Dour guy. All business, married to his job. Bounces from one meaningless relationship to the next with his one actual shot at straight-up love backfiring horrifically. He meets Elektra; gorgeous, loaded, damaged, eccentric. Has hobbies like skiing, deliberately losing high-stakes gambling matches, and fiddling with ice cubes mid-coitus. There's no point in living if you can't feel alive (couldn't that just be the MPDG creed?). Tons of parallels with the aforementioned lost love too. You can tell Bond is pondering if she'll be his actual Second Love, not just another disposable girlfriend.

A question that is resolved when her definition of "feeling alive" happens to include making eight million people not-very-alive. Oof, that's a spirit-breaker.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Jan 6th 2020 at 7:45:44 AM

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Jan 8th 2020 at 9:26:21 AM

I think it's been mentioned on this thread how Skyfall is very much a rehash of The World is Not Enough. Bond gets a shoulder injury in both. There's a bombing attack on MI6 in both. And Judi Dench's M in both is targeted for her past actions against one of the villains (Elektra and Silva).

"Elektra is more of a traditional Femme Fatale with the twist of being the actual villain, and I believe the only female Bond Big Bad." True, since while we've had interesting female antagonist characters like May Day, Xenia Onatopp and Miranda Frost, they were all henchmen to the main villain. The World is Not Enough does it where Renard starts as the main villain, but then it turns out actually no, he's just Elektra's henchman, although their interactions make it seem like Elektra and Renard have semi-equal footing.

Edited by dmcreif on Jan 8th 2020 at 12:29:05 PM

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