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I think, "I Got Your X Right Here" would be less likely to be mistaken for just bragging ("I will show you my death ray! Muah-ha-ha!") or a simple staement of fact ("I will show you the way to the secret temple, Professor Jones.")
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Good idea, whoever knows how to change a trope name please change it. o.o
EDIT: I already started to prepare the article for the presence of the name change. I shall prepare it further.
edited 31st Aug '10 8:08:53 AM by neoYTPism
I Got Your X Right Here is a good name.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
If people are agreeing that "I Got Your X Right Here" is a better name, then why not change it to that now? If someone comes up with a better name than THAT one later on, we could always change it again.
edited 31st Aug '10 9:01:08 AM by neoYTPism
Because changing pages is a pain and I'd rather just do it the once.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Dragon Writer
Then add a redirect; that's what they're for....
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Why not make I Got Your X Right Here the default title and make I Will Show You X! a redirect to it? o.o
... could someone please either change the name or answer why they wouldn't?
Iii'm not sure if I agree with the name change - the Stock Threat is "You Want X? I'll Show You X!" That's what the title immediately made me think of, so I think it's the best. Ive Got Your X Right Here is used mostly before landing a hit; not quite as generic as the other. (Plus Ive Got Your X Right Here made me think it's a trope for a hostage person or MacGuffin.)
I like You Want X? I'll Show You X!
edited 1st Sep '10 8:54:39 AM by SeanMurrayI
Ive Got Your X Right Here is missing an apostrophe, though, and You Want X Ill Show You X is missing both an apostrophe and a question mark.
... I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try Ive Got Your X Right Here as a title, though, as long as the way it displayed on the article page put an apostrophe in "I've"; I'm guessing T Vtropes has a feature for that...
Those two links should redirect to the ptitle pages for what you see in front of you.
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Using Ptitles as redirects never works out well.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Dear god, this got launched and three days later it's in Trope Repair?!
I still think the entire content of this trope is already covered under Your Mom and (more generally) Lame Comeback.
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It's a Stock Phrase.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
^^^ I thought we were looking to rename this.
I'm only bringing those two forward so we have the ptitle pages if we're looking to rename this with something that requires punctuation.
edited 4th Sep '10 8:34:35 AM by SeanMurrayI
I know it's soon after launch, but I picked a bad title and it needs to be fixed. I also edited the article itself as though it were about to be renamed to I Got Your X Right Here.
Also, how do redirects and renames work in comparison to each other?
there's a box here
A rename is just the copying of the page's content to the new name, the old page being replaced with "[[redirect:NewNameGoesHere]]", and all the links to the old name getting changed to the new name. Supposedly, admins have a tool that does this automatically.
and a box here
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Admins very rarely do the renaming.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Is it possible for a non-admin like myself to do the renaming then? o.o
Dear god, this got launched and three days later it's in Trope Repair?!That's not a rare occurrence actually.
Your Mom is not a "comeback" supertrope. (Thank God.) If anything this has more in common You Fight Like a Cow.
We need a supertrope for Nonverbal Answers, too. Because this is half that.
Anyway, it there anything really wrong with the original name? It was fine enough during YKTTW and there's nothing particularly wrong with it now I don't think it's worth bothering with because you're having second thoughts. I think all of the alternatives are actually worse. And I don't see how it could be misunderstood either. If it was for showing something it would be Let Me Show You My X or something. It's fine.
edited 6th Sep '10 7:55:38 AM by Vree
"Anyway, it there anything really wrong with the original name?" - Vree
Yes.
Yes there is. Come on Vree, some of the flaws with the name (like being confused for bragging or stements of fact) have been pointed out IN THIS VERY THREAD, how willfully ignorant do you have to be not to see them?
EDIT: For what it's worth, though, perhaps another problem with this trope is that I tried to use the same article for different kinds of stock phrases. Maybe "I'll X You" and "I'll Show You X" should have been given separate articles in the first place.
edited 6th Sep '10 8:19:57 AM by neoYTPism
I know the trope was my own idea, but I'm not sure if my previous title makes it clear enough what it's about. Anyone have alternative suggestions?