I don't know about Von Pinn wanting to kill Agatha, but Agatha probably wants to kill Von Pinn, since she stuck her arm through her dad and all. And a death ray of that power is probably the job for it.

I'm anticipating a logic meltdown from Von Pinn (at least a short one.) She was created to serve the Heterodynes and specifically to protect and defend for the Heterodyne children. If Agatha is the Heterodyne Heir, she's by definition a Heterodyne child, and protecting her is Von Pinn's duty.

But The Other killed the castle, and Klaus Barry, and Agatha may be possessed by The Other, which means she's the one who killed Klaus Barry,and Von Pinn would have an equally strong duty to kill her for that.

Result: Logic Bomb.

It's also worth considering that we don't know if Von Pinn is as strongly bound to her creator's wishes as some of the other constructs we've seen. The Jagermonsters and the Geisterdamen were both created by violent sociopaths who intended to go to war with the whole world, to serve them as soldiers and servants. Von Pinn was created to protect the kids of a relatively benign family of sparks (we think). It's possible that she has some free will in this matter, and something tells me if she does that it's not pushing in the direction of "I like Agatha". I sadly can't list any examples though; the only other constructs we've seen who weren't in an army or otherwise servants of the Baron were Punch and Judy, and they were doing what they were asked to do. However, those "Squirrel Men" or whatever the Jagers called Wulfenbach's secretaries were I believe inherited when the Baron beat the crap out of the Duke who created them, and serve him as loyally as anyone else, so I think constructs with a highest-order imperative to serve their creators are the exception rather than the norm, even if, as in the case of them, the Jagers, and Von Pinn, they tend to gravitate towards jobs doing whatever they were originally made for anyways.

This page makes me think that she has come to serve Agatha. We haven't seen Von Pinn much after she learns Agatha is a Heterodyne heir, so I'm not sure she hasn't switched over. I'm doubtful because she looks kinda scary there, more like she's out for blood.

Lookit here. Does Von Pinn want to kill Agatha or something?

edited 6th Mar '09 11:18:44 PM by adam850

Well, there is that when Agatha first arrived at Castle Wulfenbach, she was warned that Von Pinn didn't tolerate anybody endangering the children in her care, and when she was talking to the old seneschal and he mentioned "the nurse" and she said "Von Pinn?" and told him that she was at Castle Wulenbach in charge of the children, his comment was that "The Baron always did know the right monster for the job." Then there's the fact that Castle Heterodyne reacted very calmly when she came back.

That's the combination that makes me think that Von Pinn's loyalty is to the Heterodyne children, first and foremost; then the Heterodynes; then to other children — she abandoned the ones she was supposed to care for to return to the Heterodyne stronghold.

Not really. It was explicitly stated, I think in a scene involving Gil, that all of the children got sent home after word got out that there'd been a slaver wasp hive on board. Big surprise. So she hasn't actually been doing anything for the last three months, or at least, not watching the students on the castle.

And as I said, she's a former Heterodyne creation. If she claims to the castle that she's here to serve, given the circumstances, the castle's gonna assume that's the truth and let her in, maybe even lead her right to Agatha. If she didn't act like she intended to help Agatha, regardless of her real intentions, the Castle would probably do its best to kill her.

Right, so all we can be sure of is that Othar and Von Pinn are wild cards. Von Pinn could be returning to serve Agatha. Or she could have been programmed years ago by Lucrezia to do something nasty. Or she could find it impossible to believe that Agatha is a real Heterodyne and has set out to wipe out all the imposters.

And Othar... well, he's a wild card's wild card because we don't even know how (or if) the Baron managed to convince him to do something, let alone the specifics of that something. Has Klaus convinced him of the seriousness of the situation? Has Othar just pretended to accept so he can foil what he thinks is one of the Baron's dastardly schemes? Has Klaus, knowing that Othar thinks he's a baddy, carefully fed Othar a load of baloney and set him up on a Batman Gambit, fully expecting Othar to disobey orders in a way that matches Klaus' actual plan? And if so, is Othar Genre Savvy enough to realise this and try to find a creative way to throw a spanner in the works?

edited 7th Mar '09 12:44:21 AM by Rallan

I'm pretty sure the Baron convinced Othar. "Assuming this is true" right after the army guy's heartfelt warning sort of suggested he was swayed.

But he's Othar! Is he even physically capable of facing an extremely dangerous situation without being Wrong Genre Savvy ? For all we know, that "Assuming you're right..." concession was just Othar faking consideration to convince Klaus that he'd been suckered in.

I mean I'm probably grasping at straws here, but I just can't imagine Othar not trying to rewrite the script. Especially when it's handed to him by the man he thinks of as his arch nemesis.

Good point. Forgot about the arch nemesis thing. In that case, Gil's also in big trouble, no matter what the Baron said.

Aww, Othar and Oslaka are teaching other songs. They've got a really sweet rapport...

And, um, Tarvek is blue. I'm very worried for him. Very worried. The only other blue people we've seen are constructs. Is he getting like that guy in 'The Five People You Meet in Heaven'? Or is he just joining Blue Man Group/Smurf Village/becoming Dr. Manhattan?

On the other hand, I think he's really come to like Agatha. And, as opposed to Gil and Lars, who both had quite the 'reputation,' I think that Agatha may actually be this guy's first attempt at a romantic relationship.

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edited 8th Mar '09 9:22:14 PM by Tangent128

Uh... ain't gangreene alright. I have a feeling that this week of comics are going to be pretty cool.

Also: Moloch seems to be on top of the situation, like usual. He's Genre Savvy and usually in the right genre.

edited 8th Mar '09 9:27:39 PM by adam850

Well, this is sure an interesting side of Agatha. I think the correct term is "motherly". Anyways, blue Tarvek does not look good. I don't see why Moloch thinks finding Gil quickly will help though.

I suppose having another spark look at him would be good. Maybe Moloch knows about Gil's experience with biology? Gil did build Zoing at a young age and rebuilt Punch and Judy (though Moloch probably had been shipped off by that point.)

If anything, the Castle should be the one most experienced in this type of thing... though I'm not sure the degree to which it can "see" Tarvek to perform a proper analysis. To wit, we haven't really, REALLY had evidence yet that it has visual sensors.

Agatha hasn't been a Spark for very long and Moloch knows that. He may be counting on Gil having a better chance of knowing what's wrong.

Which is probably the poison from the kitty scorpion clank. Tarvek was stung, right?

in the Twitter: "Where did THAT come from" indeed...I want to see an illustration of this because they probably look adorable right now.

• daaaargh* Everyone tells me the Twitter is supposed to be meaningless to the main plot, but I can't help but ship Oslaka/Othar! *flail* She could be the first Geister to ally herself with Agatha...!

Oh, Othar and Oslaka are definitely a couple now. For how long, and how it will end, is unclear, but I believe Othar goes through female sidekicks fairly quickly so she probably won't walk away from it alive. Luckily, there is no deadline at which the Twitter has to intersect the main plot, and in fact it's guaranteed that it'll never catch up (also, all this talk about Othar "showing up" with Oslaka is ignoring the fact that this most likely all happens before the beginning of Volume 1, so he's not even limited to three months), so she could theoretically stay for the entire remainder of the Twitter. But probably not.

I suppose it's also possible (if implausible) that it occurs after whatever adventures he's going to have in the main plot. I cling to this belief in order to not have to feel bad about Othar and Oslaska getting all cute and couple-y when she's probably going to die.

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Ok, that's pretty funny. Especially how Violetta raises her hand like a little kid.

I admit I laughed out loud, especially at panels one and two with the two minions debating the merits of their chosen suitors.

Oh wow, that was great. You could just FEEL Agatha's face getting redder and redder with every word.

Also, notice she let slip a certain detail that they were not supposed to know about. I wonder if they noticed. I doubt it; neither of them are really that sharp.

I dunno if they weren't supposed to know about it... For all we know, they could have been informed about it off-camera already. Poor Communication Kills and all.

But who wants to bet that Moloch and Violetta are going to start a checklist now? "Hey, the Baron's not trying to kill you anymore! You promised us a party, right?"