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Fanon Discontinuity happens a lot in comic books, due to the many different writers that end up making stories for them, but there are just certain things that don't gel with their audiences to be considered canon.

Note 1: If you're going to list the events from a specific run on a certain comic, please list the events that you are ignoring, not the actual person writing for it, which would be ignoring real life events.


Note 2: Do not add personal examples. Examples should only be of groups of fandom.

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    DC Comics 
  • Many fans rejected the change of Dr. Leslie Thompkins, ultra-pacifist doctor and well-loved member of Batman's supporting cast, and decided that she absolutely did not allow a teenage girl to die an agonizing death in order to teach Bruce some sort of lesson about the dangers of vigilantism. It was later retconned out of existence with the revelation that Stephanie Brown didn't actually die. Leslie just lied about it and smuggled her out of the country.
    • One of the writers of the above events snapped at fans and told them that "You're going to buy the comics anyway!" Probably true, but it increased their disgust.
  • Go talk to many diehard fans of DC's Young Justice and they'll tell you that Robin, Superboy and Wonder Girl's personalities weren't completely rewritten, and Bart Allen is still Impulse, and the Secret is still... the Secret. And Slobo was never put into any kind of And I Must Scream situation.
  • Many Hellblazer fans—including, it's becomingly increasingly clear, several of its writers—reject much of Brian Azzarello's run. Constantine was not removed completely from his usual setting simply because Azzarello couldn't be bothered to research that setting. There were no story arcs largely revolving around Prison Rape, no underground redneck pornography rings, and no sadomasochistic gay revenge fantasies designed simply to shock. And that bit with the dog during Azzarello's run didn't happen, either.
  • As far as some fans are concerned, Jason Todd is STILL DEAD. End of story. For others, Jason Todd is alive and well and while he has his problems with the Bat-Family, never almost shot his "replacement" for vague reasons.
  • Due to DC writers' efforts to make the Joker "legally" sane via Grant Morrison, the Batman Confidential series, and Joker: Devil's Advocate, it's easy for fans to assume that any previous origin stories told about the Joker through his own point of view (such as in The Killing Joke) are lies, because he tells the story different every time.
    • While not officially retconned, the old Legends of the Dark Knight clashes horribly enough with the Batman Confidential series to be considered Elseworlds.
      • Archie Goodwin, who was editor of Legends of the Dark Knight for a while, liked to interpret the title of the series literally; if it happened early in Batman's career but had technology that came out last week, it was because it was an interpretation of something that did happen. Other times, LotDK depicted alternate futures; for many it was the ideal series, where they could write and publish stories that, if well-liked, were canon, and if everyone hated them it hadn't really happened so there were no worries. Some people just like to disregard everything that's happened in the Batman comics since Grant Morrison's "Batman & Son", or even earlier than that, since Infinite Crisis. This might not be apparent to newer readers (newer, in this case, including people who started reading even as far back as the 90s), but compared to some of the most iconic Batman stories of the past it's like none of the current characters have any resemblance to who they're supposed to be. Some readers hoped that after the constant bombardment of crossovers and crises going on at DC right now ends, they'd just reboot the entire DC Universe... and Be Careful What You Wish For.
    • A lot of Batman: The Animated Series fans like to deny events from the Harley Quinn comics and the official split-up of Harley and the Joker in Batman #663.
    • The New 52 origin for Mr. Freeze, that Nora Fries is just some poor frozen woman from the 1940s that Victor has an unhealthy obsession with, is roundly despised for needlessly making him Darker and Edgier and ruining the loved backstory that was ported over from the DCAU. Many fans choose to ignore it and just pretend like Freeze is the same as he's always been. Notably, the story debuted in Batman (2011) annual 1 and has never been spoken of since; in fact, All-Star Batman by one of the writers responsible for the New 52 origin has Bruce state that Nora does love Freeze.
  • Most Green Arrow and Black Canary fans prefer to ignore the Wedding Special and the following Green Arrow/Black Canary monthly title for a variety of reasons:
    • Chief among these was the fact that the whole wedding plot was the result of Executive Meddling, as DC was desperate to win back the long-time readers who were leaving Green Arrow in droves. The problem was that the rekindling of the relationship was brought about in record time and many of the fans who were reading Green Arrow didn't like how abrupt the romance was. And even the fans who liked the idea of Ollie and Dinah getting back together hated the execution.
    • Birds of Prey fans consider the book an extended nightmare sequence for Black Canary in which she's been reduced to being Green Arrow's sidekick... AGAIN.
      • Of course both title characters were forced to play second-fiddle to Batman, who appeared as a special guest in most of the issues written by Judd Winick.
    • Green Arrow fans hated the book because Judd Winick - building upon Brad Meltzer's Archer's Quest story - took as canon the idea that Oliver Queen was a dead-beat dad who abandoned his son Connor at an early age. Ignoring the fact that this totally ignored the continuity put forth in Connor's original origin story, this story raised (and then ignored) numerous logical questions about how Connor's mother was able to track Ollie down to tell him about her pregnancy to ask for help yet never felt compelled to sue him for back child-support.
    • Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow and Oliver Queen's son, was reduced to a shadow of himself, with every single unique aspect of his character (vegetarian, devout Buddhist) removed after a bout of Amnesia. He was last seen heading into Comics Limbo, after telling off his father and rejecting every single value he had.
    • Mia (Speedy II) left home to hook up with a costumed criminal called Dodger, to the protest of no one in the family.
    • And, of course, there was the fact that Roy Harper's arm was cut off and Lian was violently crushed to death in Justice League: Cry for Justice, which was part of the restructuring of the Arrow Family after the GA/BC marriage failed so dismally. The Rebirth era managed to temporarily fix all of this, though the fallout from Heroes In Crisis would undo a lot of that good will despite ending on a more hopeful note for Ollie and Dinah.
  • Some fans of Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld INSIST that it was cancelled immediately after its original creators left. Any stories tying Amethyst in to Dr. Fate's Lords of Order or the Legion of Super-Heroes are just the work of crazy fanfic writers who like to cross over everything and just happen to be Running the Asylum. What really happened was, Amethyst returned the youngest Princess Emerald to the Gemworld, sent Carnelian to a Gemworld jail, got over Topaz and let him and Lady Turquoise marry, and returned to Earth. And she was never involved in Crisis on Infinite Earths or anything else that had to do with the DC Universe, either.
  • Teen Titans Go!:
    • The events of Teen Titans Go may or may not be in the same continuity as the show, depending on who you ask.
    • Fans typically ignore the confirmation that Terra is a princess, though some let it pass because it's a part of her comic backstory. Even more (especially people who ship her with Beast Boy) ignore the implication that she has her memories, but just doesn't want to be a super hero.
    • Many shippers often ignore Sara and Cyborg's romance because Cyborg/Bumblebee is more popular.
  • Many, many fans of Batgirl III, Cassandra Cain, wish that her Face–Heel Turn stint becomes retconned out of existence. Considering it was made by a writer that did no research on the character whatsoever, that is understandable. This has partially retconned by saying she was under the influence of drugs, but things like "Why does being on drugs teach you Navajo?" still stick out.
    • Then came her miniseries, Batgirl: Redemption, in which the same writer derailed her character even further. She was established as a character who loved her father, in spite of him putting her through training from hell, and only ran away after having killed someone and reading the fear in his body language. In this series, it turns out she saw him kill people numerous times before her first kill and has always hated him. Another case of Critical Research Failure, since these things were established very early in her series. Fans basically ignore it.
  • Wow... a lot of these are about the Bat Family, aren't they? Here's one more: Selina "Catwoman" Kyle's daughter, Helena. Born during the One Year Later gap, the writers initially dropped hint after hint that Helena was Batman's kid (the biggest being her name: The pre-Crisis Huntress was Helena Wayne). Then, as little Helena was turned into the kidnap magnet all children in the DCU seem to become, we find out that Helena's father was Sam Bradley Jr, newly-introduced son of supporting character Slam Bradley. The Bat-Fandom, by-and-large, rejected this reveal as the Editorially-mandated Ass Pull it was, and firmly believed that once little Helena is (inevitably) re-introduced (Selina gave her up for adoption for her own safety), Bruce Wayne will be revealed as her real father. Of course, along came Flashpoint to render the entire issue moot.note .
    • This is actually given further weight in the favor of the fans, in that prior to little Helena's birth, Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle decided to have a night to themselves, without their masks, eventually leading to them taking their relationship to the next step. Selina and Sam had... not quite as much to suggest he was the father by comparison.
    • Here's another Selina one: Selina has two possible backstories. Either she's the daughter of an alcoholic Irishman with a Cuban mother who committed suicide, or she's the daughter of Carmine Falcone, an Italian mob boss, who was put up for adoption. The Irish/Cuban backstory is technically canon, but an awful lot of fans greatly prefer the other story, as it removes the needless drama from her backstory. Currently, the Falcone connection has been hinted strongly at again, so hopefully that turns out to be true. Who knows, maybe she really is a Falcone but was taken in by her supposed other parents?
    • Even more Bat-wanking... for decades there has never been an official origin for The Joker, which fits in with his chaotic nature as he himself says he remembers the past differently each time. So you can imagine the fan outcry when in 2006 DC announced they were giving The Joker an official canonical origin story. You can imagine the further outcry when said story turned out to be terrible, reducing The Joker to a generic mafia hitman named Jack whose war with Batman is sparked when he injures Bruce Wayne's girlfriend, and Batman retaliates by disfiguring his face with a Batarang. Fans loathed it, and many refuse to acknowledge the story's existence. While DC has never officially retracted the story, all subsequent Joker tales have completely ignored it, and Joker's official profile on DC's website currently gives him no definitive origin.
    • Yet more Bat-wank. A lot of fans - especially female fans - really hated Frank Miller's new origin (accepted by many later writers) for the post-Crisis Catwoman in Batman: Year One, which had her as a sex worker who saw Batman in action and decided becoming a costumed criminal would be more fun and less degrading. However, at least the same number of fans and, by now, probably more, actually like this backstory as portraying her overcoming a difficult early life.
    • The infamous climax to the Bat-Wedding in Batman #50 hits another sore spot with fans, with some preferring to skip right ahead to the possible future glimpsed in Tom King's 2017 Batman annual, where Bruce and Selina have ironed out all their problems and have grown old together, and considering it canon.
    • By the time it ended, Tom King's entire run fell into this for a sizable and vocal portion of the fandom. After the aforementioned Batman #50, the run fell into Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy which saw Bruce alienate several members of the Bat-Family, often in an abusive manner, causing him to come off as Unintentionally Unsympathetic Designated Hero. For many, this apexed either with Bruce nearly beating Jason to death in Red Hood and the Outlaws #25 (which, admittedly, was written by the even more hated Scott Lobdell), or with Batman #71, where Bruce smacked Tim in the face after the boy tried to comfort him over Selina leaving him. King tried to explained the last one away with an Ass Pull of Bruce "communicating" to Tim through the blow, but the writing was so contrived that it fell into this trope almost immediately. Anyway, after those two instances, fans outright disowned this version of Batman and refused to acknowledge the run at all except to bash it.
  • The events in Teen Titans, wherein which two of the Titans' home support, Wendy & Marvin adopt a "Wonder Dog", contemplate their roles in the team and then are attacked by said Wonder Dog (who was really a demonic thing) which leaves Marvin dead and Wendy in a coma. She has since awaken from said coma, only to discover that she is now paralyzed and is being taken under Oracle's wing. Many people prefer that this had never happened. The Wonder Dog thing, not so much the "Oracle's protege" thing, though Oracle's now gone too.
  • Bob Ingersoll notes that he believes The Question # 26 didn't happen with the well deserved reason of a hero letting someone guilty of "two counts of aggravated murder" free because it's Christmas.
  • Many fans of Captain Marvel and the Marvel Family try to ignore what's happened to them since Infinite Crisis, given that the Marvels have basically been DC's punching bag since then. The series The Trials of Shazam is an especial sore point for the fans. Basically:
    • The Marvel Family's ancient and powerful mentor, the wizard Shazam, was apparently Killed Off for Real during a battle with the Spectre to further the plans of the villains of Infinite Crisis.
    • Captain Marvel was Put on a Bus and made caretaker of the Wizard's power, forcing him to spend virtually all of his time sitting inside of a mountain at the heart of time and space and being unable to really interact with the outside world much at all. This was supposedly to let him deal with mystical threats beyond those of normal superheroes, but when a threat comes along that was intended to literally reshape the nature of magic in the DCU, Cap's involvement was essentially to sit down at a table and chat with some people for one issue and do nothing else.
    • Captain Marvel Jr. was Brought Down to Normal, then underwent The Hero's Journey in an attempt to make him the new Champion during the aforementioned Trials of Shazam. The problem was the series itself was so poorly written that not even the excellent artwork could save it, making everyone doubt that this will be a true case of a Sidekick Graduations Stick. To make matters worse, the idea of the series was to make Junior, now called Shazam, a hero that only dealt with magical problems. The creator actually said "Why is someone with the powers of the gods stopping robbers?" to which this troper can only reply "Because he's a HERO you idiot, and when a hero sees someone doing something evil, they DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."
      • Yeah, you can thank Judd Winick for that. Putting aside the fact that it is incredibly stupid to fundamentally change a character/superhero "team" that, by and large, hasn't been changed since they were created back when Winick's father was a child, the "justification" is even worse: it is equivalent to saying that since Superman is the strongest hero on Earth, there should be no reason for him to stop common criminals and non-powered supervillains.
    • Mary Marvel was Brought Down to Normal as well, and was not allowed to go on The Hero's Journey that Captain Marvel Jr. did, and instead wound up seeking out Black Adam, both a Fallen Hero and Evil Counterpart of Captain Marvel. She convinces Adam to give her his power, which gives her a brand new tight black costume complete with super-short skirt. Naturally, superpowers taken from someone evil results in Mary having a Face–Heel Turn as she slowly decides that Evil Feels Good, after using her powers to turn two security guards into statues. Eventually she has a This Is Your Brain on Evil realization, rejects her powers, and goes on another quest to atone, eventually getting her original powers back at slightly reduced levels. Then Darkseid shows up and offers her Black Adam's powers again, but clearly this quest has taught her that evil superpowers are bad, accepting power from evil beings is also bad, and so she'll just punch him in the face, right? Nope, instead she apparently suffers a case of Aesop Amnesia, accepts the power and not only becomes evil of her own free will, but goes all out Drunk on the Dark Side, complete with an even more Stripperiffic outfit. Then Countdown to Final Crisis happened, but unlike most of the stuff that was declared Canon Discontinuity, Mary still had to be evil. She was supposed to be merely possessed by a New God, but had to be reworked after Final Crisis was over. So she's now evil because of Black Adam's Bad Powers, Bad People.
    • JSA writer Geoff Johns, in an effort to Must Make Amends, started trying to undo the above mess, though the results are still mixed. Captain Marvel was Brought Down to Normal by Black Adam and his resurrected wife Isis, leaving him in his mortal form of 16 year old Billy Batson. Billy went to the JSA for help, and when a big fight erupted, was forced to accept Black Adam's power by way of Mary Marvel and joined The Dark Side against his will. Shazam (the wizard, not Captain Marvel Jr.) got better and promptly depowers EVERYONE, leaving Billy and Mary normal teenagers, but thankfully no longer evil (Mary having a My God, What Have I Done? moment) and turning Adam and Isis into stone statues. Shazam then leaves in a huff, ticked that Billy had failed in his position as the new Wizard, that Mary had become evil and that Captain Marvel Jr. was now going around using Shazam's name and using different powers. So to sum up, Captain Marvel Jr. is the only active Marvel Family member at the moment and he's barely shown anywhere at the moment. Is it any wonder fans like to pretend the last several years never happened?
    • The latest revamp of Captain Marvel (now known as Shazam) following the recent DC reboot finally managed to win people back over, to the point that people are eagerly awaiting an ongoing Shazam! series. Some people are still slightly offput by the fact that Billy is a Jerk with a Heart of Gold instead of a straight Pollyana like he used to be for most of his previous history. Or the fact that the Marvel Family had to be torched & rebuilt from the ground up to be salvaged.
  • Amazons Attack! is often considered one big example of Fanon Discontinuity, but it gets a special notice for the Supergirl and Wonder Girl plotline, which involved them siding with the genocidal Amazon invaders and being tricked into taking down Air Force One and leading the President into an ambush. As they never faced any consequences for what certainly amounts to high treason (beyond some mild public displeasure), it seems even DC probably considers this Canon Discontinuity.
  • Captain Atom fans generally disregard the existence of Countdown: Arena, which turned him into the villain Monarch for no particular reason.
    • Except that he was originally intended to be the Fallen Hero who became Monarch in the original Armageddon 2000 series. The editorial team chaged their mind at the last minute.
  • Aquaman fans are widely divided over what is and isn't canon, but the two most likely candidates for being ignored are the Erik Larsen run and the whole "Sword of Aquaman" era.
  • There is a Silver Age story of The Flash that may be one of the earliest examples of Fanon Discontinuity. It retconned in an origin for the Flash involving some kind of tiny genie named Mopee causing that fateful lightning bolt to strike the Flash. It was not labeled as an imaginary story or dream sequence. It was not Canon Discontinuity until Crisis on Infinite Earths.
  • The two different times that Nightwing was raped, once while catatonic, and another time when Mirage was disguised as Starfire.
    • Fans also prefer to ignore the out-of-character Retcon in the second Nightwing Annual, where Dick, in a flashback, had slept with a recently crippled Barbara, and then proceeded to give her an invitation to his wedding with Starfire.
    • Some pretend Dick never underwent his highly illogical Trauma Conga Line.
    • "Ric Grayson" from Nightwing (Rebirth). An arc that was so hated that the following writer had to explain it away as a gambit from the Court of Owls to finally get Dick as one of their Talons.
  • Many fans tend to ignore the New 52 (which thankfully for them has been replaced by the 2016 relaunch DC Rebirth, which was not a Continuity Reboot and incorporated elements of the pre-New 52 eranote  and becoming more Lighter and Softer than the New 52) for its Darker and Edgier tone and Whichever Characters Our Writers Like Best How the Writers Want Them by declaring that:
    • Cyborg is not an insanely important member of the League that WE COULD NOT DO WITHOUT!
    • Dick and Damian aren't being split up from being partners.
    • The Teen Titans have not been screwed over entirely.
    • Wally West is still the Flash, not Barry Allen. And he's definitely not a teenage half-black punk with a criminal record.
    • Some will, however, admit that ditching the costumes that look like they have underwear over leggings (like Superman and Batman) for costumes without that feature is a good thing.
      • Some think the new look is worse, particularly on Superman, whose revamped costume is jeans, T-shirt with the Kryptonian logo, and cape. However that is only his first costume, in a comic set at least five years before the rest of the new DCU. His real costume is the one seen in Superman and Justice League - you know, the really ugly one.
    • Harley's Stripperific costume had an extreme backlash. It seems no one likes it, saying that they completely missed the point of her persona and that it doesn't work realistically for an acrobat like her. The costume was just the first and most general one. More specifically, Harley is NOT just the latest in a line of "Harley Quinns" that the Joker creates and kills whenever he gets fed up with them. Also, Harley did NOT kill hundreds of people in cold blood, and For the Evulz, with exploding hand-held video game machines.
    • Supergirl's costume faced loud backlash for the odd design choices, notably the cut-out knees on the high boots, the strange red patch on the crotch that almost evokes the image of panties but just looks off, and the general armoured look that, like Superman's costume, doesn't really make much sense. Kara wore that costume for five years, but before Supergirl (Rebirth)'s first issue she had replaced it with a version of her classic costume, and everyone acted as she always wore her current outfit. Oh, and she definitely was NOT duped by an obvious villain into furthering his goals.
    • Beast Boy and Raven lived happily ever after after finally reconciling in Issue 100 of Teen Titans. They've only recently met as of Issue #20 or so in ''Teen Titans'.'
    • Starfire still has her memory. Which turned out to be true.
    • Well let's just say Stormwatch/The Authority fans were not too pleased with the redesigns... is that a SPIKE? On his CHIN??? Not to mention Stormwatch fans were less than amused to learn that their team's more popular spin off had taken over their comic's name and the few heroes who have shown up in cameos are apparently now evil.
      • Almost everybody was pissed when Jim Starlin took over the book, used a Negative Space Wedgie to retcon out the old team and reintroduce a new one that was just all over the place.
    • The small but loyal fandom of the Blue and Gold were starting to accept that Ted Kord was dead and possibly never coming back (but come on; this is comics), but being told Ted was never the Blue Beetle caused an outrage. To a lesser extent, there was Booster's new costume lacking the beloved Shiny Golden Ass.
    • Wonder Woman was still crafted from clay by her mother Hippolyta and is not the daughter of Zeus. The only thing Zeus did was strike her clay form with lightning to give it life, if that.
    • Superman still has his adoptive parents alive, and is still Happily Married to Lois Lane. The events of Rebirth fixed the latter, with Clark and Lois reunited, and also given a son, Jon, as well
    • A good number of Batwoman fans refuse to accept anything from Marc Andreyko's run, which began after the contentious departure of the original creative team and featured such things as the title character undergoing Badass Decay, breaking up with her fiancée, becoming a vampire's sex slave, and fighting enemies in space.
    • Though DC Rebirth won some back, it lost it with Heroes in Crisis and Year of the Villain which saw the universe return to grimdark edginess and many beloved returns evaporating. Though, Dark Nights: Death Metal ends with an anti-crisis that undoes all changes to DC history, thus meaning that previous continuity is all now back. Naturally, fans are now pretending that the ten years between the Flashpoint and Death Metal storylines never happened, which is made easier by how much the status quo has reset to something that could easily be seen as picking right up from where they left off. About the only exceptions is a few Ensemble Dark Horse Breakout Character types introduced during this time, such as Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz, Wallace West and Avery Ho, Jon Kent/Superboy, etc. The fact these characters can easily fit into the old continuity without changing anything is probably a big reason for that.
  • There are those who prefer to assume the original Crisis on Infinite Earths never came along to trainwreck all previous DC continuity.
  • Many fans of the New Gods mythos like to think Death of the New Gods by Jim Starlin did not happen. Starlin pretty much ignores all but the basics of the New Gods except for what he himself wrote. He destroyed Mr. Miracle's personality from what it has always been. He turned The Source into an childish disco ball who lacks the wisdom one would expect and is outsmarted by Darkseid and never behind the Source Wall. And to top it off the final battle between Orion and Darkseid, the two most important New Gods, occurred in another comic.
  • When it comes to Donna Troy's infamously convoluted backstory, few fans accept anything after Who Is Donna Troy?. It's generally seen as the best backstory, with the other retcons being seen as unneeded.
  • Heroes in Crisis has, as of this writing (5/29/19), been tossed out of continuity by the vast majority of DC fans due to its rather awful depiction of the mentally ill, being another Kill Them All Crisis Crossover event, killing off several beloved characters, almost all the characters either being horribly mischaracterized or holding firmly onto the Idiot Ball, and turning Wally West of all characters into a suicidal accidental mass murderer due to an Ass Pull regarding his powers with issue 9 landing him in jail. To say fans have been unhappy with the series from start to finish is a massive understatement. As of Flash 761, it was retconned as a result of Thawne and the Negative Speed Force manipulating Wally and other Flash family members to behave out of character.

    Marvel Comics 
  • Captain America has a few, usually retcons that fans will ignore:
    • The retcon that Sam Wilson was a pimp prior to be being the Falcon. It's disliked for being a needless retcon that darkens the character, while also being racist. It was ignored by pretty much every reader until Marvel eventually obliged in 2015, revealing that "Snap" Wilson was a false memory implanted by The Red Skull to try and break Falcon's spirit.
    • The latter part of Mark Gruenwald's run as writer, from around 1992, until 1995 when Mark Waid took over, post Heroes Reborn, is considered a giant Dork Age. Lowlights include "The Superia Strategem" (Where Cap and his male ally Paladin almost get transformed into women by the titular Big Bad), "Cap Wolf" (Cap gets transformed into a werewolf by a mad scientist. Cable shows up, because he was the Wolverine of the time) and "Iron Cap" (The Super Soldier Serum turns toxic, and Cap dons a ridiculous suit of Powered Armor to keep fighting).
    • Rick Remender's retcon that Steve Roger's father was an abusive drunk. It is disliked for being a stereotype of Irish immigrants while also adding nothing to the character aside from giving Steve pointless angst. It doesn't help that it was also a part of Nick Spencer's disliked run. Most people choose to ignore it, which is pretty easy given that Steve's father is so minor a character that most people would be more familiar with the MCU version — also a minor character — who isn't presented in this light.
  • The Marvel Civil War spawned a massive Dork Age, what with Robbie Baldwin ditching his Speedball identity to become the Wangsty Penance because of an explosion that wasn't even his fault, Iron Man becoming a major-league Jerkass, and Spider-Man willingly unmasking himself on national television. Hence, some fans have decided that Civil War never happened. There was a fan parody called "I Don't Need Your Civil War," created from leaked pages for some aborted project or other. The reasoning behind the name is a Shout-Out to Guns N' Roses.
  • This whole Totem concept introduced by J. Michael Straczynski, which has been disregarded by many. Spider-Man did not get his powers from a spider-totem; Morlun suffered from a case of Mistaken Identity in going after Spidey; Spider-Man never died after getting his eye ripped out before coming back from the dead to eat Morlun alive; and he never got any new powers.
    • There was a period in the '90s where someone had the bright idea to get MJ on a plane and have her Killed Off for Real when it exploded; after the revenge-and-grief subplot was over and readers were told that she was really, truly dead, Spidey immediately became swingin' single - hanging out with his friends in clubs, having a new roommate, being flirted with by new women. It didn't work. The outcry prompted an Author's Saving Throw, MJ came back, and if the entire storyline happened at all, it was simply that there was a brief scare where she was thought to be dead.
    • Some fans will refuse to accept that Otto Octavius is now Spider-Man, and prefer to wait for the writers to bring Peter back from the dead. Well, as of the end of that series (and the beginning of the new Amazing Spider-Man series), they got their wish.
    • Insect DNA and the Queen.
    • Many of those who were at least receptive to the Totem concept were chased off by the series of backup stories in the post-Superior, Amazing Spider-Man relaunch (tying it with Spider-Verse), in which Morlun and his "siblings" bounced about the multi-verse devouring assorted versions of Spider-Man and slaughtering anyone else in their path. The last straw came in Amazing #8, where Daemos killed the Peter Parker of the MC2 universe. Many, fairly, saw that as yet another middle finger to the Spider-Man fandom. Fortunately, the newspaper strip universe was spared, and a back-up tie-in by Spider-Girl's creators hinted that the MC 2 affected by Spider-Verse was not in fact the real one.
  • Other products of Spider-Man's Dork Age that many fans write out of their version of 'canon' include these:
    • Sins Past. Gwen Stacy never had a one night stand with Norman Osborn, nor did she ever give birth.
    • The Gathering of Five/The Final Chapter. Aunt May never returned from the dead after her moving death scene in Amazing Spider-Man #400. Anything to the contrary was just Peter fantasizing about scenarios in which she might somehow still be alive, the way many of us do when a loved one dies. There's certainly no way Peter would have been fooled by a 'genetically re-engineered actress' posing as Aunt May - his Spider-Sense would have told him something was up. And there's no way the actress could have faked Aunt May's personality that easily, and no way would she have stayed in character even on her deathbed.
    • Worst of all, while OMD/BND would have been a perfect place to erase these from continuity... nope.
  • Some fans of the Ultimate Spider-Man book dismiss anything after Ultimatium (or in Ultimatium, for that matter, as that storyline isn't liked much at all) to be non-canon. Peter and MJ didn't break up so Peter could be with Gwen, who initially viewed Peter as a "little brother" (which, to Bendis' credit, is pointed out by MJ), and Peter didn't die in the "Death of Spider-Man" story. Ultimate Spider-Man Annual #3, in which MJ promises to "totally marry" Peter one day, is often cited by some fans as the "true" climax of the whole story. This is somewhat rectified by Peter coming Back from the Dead and eloping with MJ.
  • Spider-Woman: Origin: The revised origin by Brian Michael Bendis is considered non-canon due to significantly altering details established in earlier stories, and for presenting Bova and the High Evolutionary as ordinary humans, when several stories depend on their established likeness being present (though the latter was somewhat ambiguous, and hinted to be Jessica's altered memories at work).
  • Due to the massively unpopular rewrites of canon history and the characters themselves, most fans of Malibu Comic's The Ultraverse tend to ignore the books written after Marvel Comics bought the rights to them in the mid-90s.
  • Doctor Doom has been through a number of unpopular depictions over the years, causing many fan rejections. Fortunately, the concept of the Doombot has already been introduced: Doom uses a lot of robots, some of which don't quite act right. This conveniently lets fans (and future writers who want to make an Author's Saving Throw) explain away any drastically inconsistent appearance of Doom as a Doombot:
    • Dr. Doom most certainly did not get his ass handed to him by Tony Stark's new team of fascism-abiding "Avengers" in a flagrant violation of international law against a sovereign nation, and to suggest that he was then subsequently imprisoned by said miscreants is just laughable. Such libelous poppycock is beneath Doom.
    • He also absolutely did not, at any time during this clearly fictional sequence of events, ever lapse into speech patterns whose vulgarity, crudity, and misogyny would have shamed both the intellect and character of your average gang-banging crack addict.
    • Hilariously, Doom himself is known to indulge in exactly this sort of historical revisionism. He keeps an official Editor on staff to remove or improve the records of all his embarrassing moments. The above items are probably that Editor's work.
    • He was beaten by Squirrel Girl, though. That was written by Steve Ditko! That's so in continuity!
    • Doom's 'Master Planning' also includes that racist Doombot from the Black Panther issues. Fans still aren't sure how that one made it past the quality control, but a racist Doombot has to be a part of Doom's master plan rather than some sort of twisted out of character moment on a horrible writer's self-insertion fantasy.
    • A lot of us try and make others wake up and smell the coffee in that DOOM would not make a Deal with the Devil in order to go after that infernal Richards, after what happened to his mother dearest. No matter what Mark Waid would think.
    • Another one is the story of Doom serving the Marquis of Death, being sent back in time by the Marquis for not being evil enough, torn apart by prehistoric sharks, surviving by pure hate, and somehow recreating his body, growing stronger in dark magic, and living for millions of years only to show up to kill the Marquis after the FF have defeated him. While the depiction of Doom's determination is fitting, since Doom would rather die than call anyone else master, along with the general ridiculousness of the storyline, the next one and all other ones have conveniently ignored it.
      • An issue of Dark Avengers several years later retconned parts of the story. Doom was heavily wounded by the sharks, but saved by the Dark Avengers, who were going through unrelated time travel problems. He hijacked their time machine to get back to the present and plot from there, establishing that most of the above story was a lie.
  • There was a Usenet meme: "Jean Grey is dead on the moon." The theory was that Jean Grey being resurrected for X-Factor, the retcon's effect on the original "Dark Phoenix Saga". Yet two wrongs don't make a right, and the Emma Frost thing doesn't sit too well with some fans either. Then again, Jean even dating Scott, letting alone marrying him, is Fanon Discontinuity for the Jean/Logan fans, so there seems to be a line where this goes too far and just makes for messy fanon.
  • Many things from Chuck Austen's run on Uncanny X-Men are worth denying. Many fans agree to dismiss the following: Nightcrawler's father is not an ancient demonic mutant, nor does Nightcrawler have hundreds of similar-looking half-siblings running around that no one ever noticed. The Church of Humanity did not try to turn Nightcrawler into the Pope and then kill people with exploding Communion Host. There are no parrot wolves of doom. Warren Worthington the Third CERTAINLY knows what businesses he owns and would never bang some jailbait in front of her mom. Havok never offered to reform Iceman's body by peeing or fell in love with his nurse in his dreams. Sam Guthrie's family was NEVER in a bad Romeo and Juliet ripoff facing rednecks with super-armor. She-Hulk did not fuck the Juggernaut. Skin's tombstone didn't get his name wrong. There was no second Xorn. Mutants are not immune to AIDS, and let us never speak of that again.
    • Frankly, it's easier to list the parts of Austen's run that fans are willing to remember, which consists of "Juggernaut was an X-Man" and pretty much nothing else.
  • Grant Morrison as stated they deliberately wrote "Here Comes Tomorrow", the last story of their New X-Men run, in a way that it could be the last X-Men story if fans so chose. Ironically, though, given some of stuff they did on the book, including Emma Frost coercing a still-traumatized Cyclops into an affair while he was still married to Jean Grey, killing off Jean, and writing Magneto in a manner similar to his Ultimate self, some fans would rather take this approach to Morrison's run itself.
  • Some X-Men fans have had this reaction to Reginald Hudlin's work on the Black Panther comics, including the retconning of the nation of Wakanda into a Straw Utopia that is intentionally keeping high technology (including the cure for cancer!) from non-natives, and Storm stepping down as one of the leaders of the X-Men to marry T'Challa in the sake of a Token Romance. This relationship is sunk with a single line of dialogue in Avengers vs. X-Men.
  • Don't get X-Fans started on House of M and the Decimation that resulted. Wanda Maximoff's depowering all the B-list and lower mutants in the Marvel Universe simply by saying "No More Mutants" is just too ridiculous a Diabolus ex Machina to be accepted as canon, and it's a textbook case of Writer on Board. Many fans still curse Brian Michael Bendis' very name to this day.
  • And many general-Marvel fans go further by refusing to accept Avengers Disassembled, the arc that came before House of M. Though far from being the biggest problem with the arc, a good number have cited some of the author-induced sheer stupidity that Doctor Strange displays when he shows up as a reason, and this was one of the biggest things dealt with in the subsequent "What If..." story based on the arc.
  • Submitted for your consideration: The Crossing, The Avengers crossover where Iron Man is revealed to be a sleeper agent working for Kang, commits cold blooded murder and attacks his fellow Avengers. The Avengers desperate to stop their rampaging teammate recruit a teenage Tony Stark from an alternate universe to help them defeat his older, more experienced counterpart. This teenager then takes over the role of Iron Man and fights crime as the new Iron Man. Kurt Busiek tried applying Canon Discontinuity in Avengers Forever to wipe away this stain on The Avengers mythos, but it was totally unnecessary. Nobody at Marvel will ever admit to remembering teen Tony.
  • Heroes Reborn is a series most have trouble accepting: no one believes that the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Captain America, and The Avengers were saved from imminent destruction by being whisked into a pocket universe created by Franklin Richards. And the idea that they were gone for about a year, having Darker and Edgier adventures that were ''almost but not the same'' as their established histories (often with ridiculously grotesque anatomy and excessive scowl marks), then conveniently return to the original Marvel U with nary a glance back sounds more like bad fanfic (or a cynical marketing gimmick) than anything plausible.
    • Though, there was one positive side-effect to the whole enterprise: it allowed Heroes Return to essentially restore Tony Stark back to what he was before The Crossing. More or less, anyway.
  • Runaways fans are divided on who tends to disregard Joss Whedon's run, Terry Moore's run, Kathryn Immomen's run or Gert's death.. Furthermore, although the Secret Invasion crossover with Young Avengers is generally accepted as canon, the Civil War crossover has less luck.
    • Avengers Arena. As far as Runaways fans are concerned, Nico and Chase are still in LA with the gang and are not fighting other teens to the death. A lot of Avengers Academy fans have a similar mantra regarding it.
    • Ditto for the sequel to Arena, in which they are joined by fans of Baron Zemo and Daimon Hellstrom, who did not appreciate the two popular Antiheroes being turned into one-dimensional leaders of a Neo-Nazi organization that framed Nico, Chase and Hazmat in a murder and forced them to join their group.
    • In the wake of Arena and Undercover and their general dissatisfaction with the second and third volumes, a number of Runaways fans now insist that the series ended after the original run.
  • Fans are split on a retcon of the Beyonder's nature; originally, he was a sentient universe in human form with nearly infinite power, but he was later revealed to "actually" be a Cosmic Cube Being, an entity of still-phenomenal power but a relative small fry on the cosmic scale. This caused a divide between fans who felt the original incarnation was an obnoxious self-insert for his creator Jim Shooter and those who felt the retcon was so sloppy (turns out the various Anthropomorphic Personifications were only pretending to be weaker than him) that they'd prefer to see him restored to his original power level.
  • Invoked in the final issue of Dan Slott's She-Hulk, which featured Alternate Universe counterparts of various Marvel characters going on vacation to Earth-616 and generally making a mess of things, with the strong implication that a reader could consider any given Character Derailment or Unexplained Recovery to actually have been one of these guys if they wanted to. The plotline was poorly-received, oddly enough.
  • Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch fans disregard the Retcon that they're not Magneto's children in AXIS as canon. Most of these fans figure that this will be retconned back once the X-Men movie rights revert back to Marvel, while others blame Marvel for retconning their origins to fit in with their Marvel Cinematic Universe counterparts.
  • There are Iron Man fans who disregard Tony's current origins in which he is adopted and the biological son of Howard and Maria Stark by revealing that he is the son of Jude and Amanda Armstrong and there are fans who don't like the idea of Riri Williams as Iron Mannote , as they consider her a Replacement Scrappy.
  • On the whole, most fans prefer to pretend the Carol Danvers/Marcus Immortus incident in Avengers #200 never happened. Marcus used mind control to drag Carol into his pocket dimension, seduce her, and impregnate her with a copy of himself. When she delivered the baby and it rapidly aged to adulthood, the Avengers foiled Marcus's plan to stay in the main Marvel universe. But then, when Carol announced she'd return to his dimension and live happily ever after with him, the team said okey-dokey. Chris Claremont fixed this a year later with something even better than a retcon: He brought Carol back and let her deliver a giant What the hell, heroes? lecture to the Avengers before quitting the team and going to hang out with the X-Men.
  • Jeph Loeb and Daniel Way's Wolverine run is considered a massively drawn-out Dork Age and is ignored. Wolverine is not from a subspecies of mutants evolved from wolves, there's no super special genetic destiny showdown of the fates reason for his rivalry with Sabretooth and there's no jackass called Romulus who manipulated everything in Wolverine's entire life for vague reasons. The only thing acknowledged from the run is Daken, Wolverine's son, whose origin is heavily tied to all of the above... which writers thoroughly, thoroughly ignore and have never brought up again aside from vague references to Logan not being there to raise him and Daken having a cruel upbringing. The wolf mutant thing was also revealed to be a lie at the very end of the run, to the relief of all.

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Titan Books
  • Numerous Star Trek fans invert this trope and accept the comic "Countdown" (a prequel comic to the 2009 Star Trek) as canon. While it has been touted as the "official movie prequel" it should be noted that Roberto Orci (one of the writers of the film) has stated that it is not canon, and Paramount's studio policy only takes the television series and films as canon. Reasons for this, apart from the false impression that it's canon, include explanation of Nero's backstory and motivations, and a retcon of Data's death in the previous film Star Trek: Nemesis.

Image Comics

  • Many fans of Image Comics like to pretend that most of the early stuff was never written, and that the characters were never Nineties Anti Heroes. Quite understandable.

Archie Comics

  • Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics):
    • Typically, you can break the Sonic The Hedgehog comics into three distinct eras: the Ken Penders era, the Karl Bollers era, and the Ian Flynn era. Fans of the first pretend the latter two don't exist; fans of the last pretend the former two don't exist; there are no fans of the middle era.
    • Oh, and now there is the new continuity following Sonic the Hedgehog/Mega Man: Worlds Collide. To wit, following Ken Penders' lawsuit with Archie Comics & SEGA, a great deal of legal headaches and misplaced paperwork wound up revealing that characters created by writers prior to Ian Flynn did NOT belong to SEGA, meaning that the company would not want to deal in paying royalties for characters that should have belonged to them. So to save the comic, the entire continuity was scrapped and one which is more faithful to the video games was devised, leading to the expulsion of many characters, some well loved. To say that many fans weren't happy is a bit of an understatement...
      • Spanning from this are some of the redesigns of the Freedom Fighters. Some are happy that the SatAm characters finally have designs to better fit the SEGA style after so long, others are decrying them. Sally's especially has a few diehard fans raging that she was given shorts of all things and has covered up significantly.

Disney Mouse and Duck Comics

  • What's canon in Duck Canon? Most of the fans agree that Carl Barks work is canon, majority accepts Don Rosa's corrections, quite a lot accept tacitly Gottfriedson's strips. Vicar? Van Horn? Does Scrooge have a half-brother? Are fairly well-liked characters like Fethry or Brigitte canon? The cartoons where Donald Duck debuted can or can't be canon in context of the work. Some writers, including Don Rosa himself, see Mickey Mouse as a fictional character, others have him interact with Donald. And don't even get us started on DuckTales (1987)/Darkwing Duck continuity or Duck Avenger...

Franco-Belgian Comics

  • Asterix: Most fans prefer to pretend Asterix and the Falling Sky never was (the villagers get their memory erased in the end, so it can actually be considered as such), and hope the next album will give a chance to the series to not end on a bad tune. Other fans prefer to think that the series died with Goscinny, and ignore all the Uderzo-only books (the ones from Asterix and the Great Divide onwards).
  • Fans of The Adventures of Tintin prefer to not talk about Tintin in the Congo, due to its racist and colonialist tone as well as animal cruelty, and to a lesser extent because Tintin's characterization in it doesn't fit with the later stories. Even Hergé himself was embarrassed by it. Tintin in the Land of the Soviets is usually ignored by both fans and publishers due to being anti-communist propaganda and being drawn in monochrome. Tintin in America is sometimes but less often discounted largely because, in common with the previous two, it has a very disjointed plot than leaps from one place to the next with no guiding theme. Cigars of the Pharaoh or The Blue Lotus would then be the "real" start of the series. It helps that the early albums are not referenced much in later stories.
  • A lot of Spirou and Fantasio fans like to pretend that Morvan and Munuera's run never happened. Doesn't help that it's probably been made so that it never happened canonically.
  • Ever since Mélusine co-creator left, the series has been rocked with controversies and fans prefer to ignore any work made by the remaining creator. The major points of contentious are:

Other Comics

  • Sonic the Comic fans do this to comics that are just considered Mind Screw's or otherwise poor. Amy's Secret Past, which is extremely inconsistent with canon (and the "She's not naturally pink" thing pissed off some fans), and Bravehog (which is also extremely inconsistent and had horrible artwork) come to mind. There's also a select few fans who ignore the Sonic Adventure arc, or at least Johnny's death.
    • There are also fans of the Sonic the Comic – Online! fanon continuation title who don't count Sonic's recent framing and status as a wanted fugitive hated and distrusted by most of his friends (except Tails), who all ought to know better by this point, having experianced situations before where Sonic was wrongfully blamed for things.
  • You'd be hard-pressed to find a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan that will accept that April has always really been a living drawing, instead of their most normal ally or that Rat King was a thug that was endowed with magical powers by a tribunal of like beings (Bat King, Wolf Queen, etc.), instead of an insane homeless guy.
  • How many people treat the Sixth Doctor strip "The World Shapers" from Doctor Who Magazine, for its explanation of the Cybermen's origins (especially when compared to the Big Finish audio story Spare Parts, considered the definitive Cybermen origin story). Some fans also dismiss the same story because of the rather sad (albeit heroic) fate it depicts for Jamie. In the finale of the 2017 series of the programme, it was heavily implied the events of the World Shapers were also canon to the television series. Of course this is the Doctor Who Expanded Universe, with a canon that is very Broad Strokes.
  • About any Vampirella fan who is old enough to have still read the Warren run (admittedly, they weren't defender of continuity either) will claim the Harris (now Dynamite) Vampirella is a person who just happens to have the same name, and the true Vampirella is still a space alien and not <insert yearly retcon here>.


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