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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localize, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shay/Kurosaki) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.

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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localize, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional unprofessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shay/Kurosaki) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.
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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shay/Kurosaki) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.

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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localise, localize, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shay/Kurosaki) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.

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** Both, the anime and the manga, have very controversial endings, but thankfully, the former is addressed in form of ''VideoGame/YuGiOhDuelLinks'', which continues from the ending of the anime. Notably it [[spoiler:separates the Yu boys from Yuya, with the implication that the same will happen to the Bracelet Girls, too. Characters who didn't interact with each other are now able to meet in the world of Duel Links. Kurosaki is given a more realistic opportunity to grief his losses, but he's now given a new hope after being finally reunited with Yuto again. Konami releasing a purified version of Supreme King Dragon Z-ARC also adds speculation to a possible redemption story for Zarc, who is already heavily implied to return within the ''Duel Links'' storyline proper.]]



** Reiji using Fusion, Synchro and Xyz Summoning for the first time on-screen, which is also the first time those three summoning methods were used in the franchise. The fact that he also Pendulum Summons during that duel is just the icing on the top.

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** Reiji using Fusion, Synchro and Xyz Summoning for the first time on-screen, which is also the first time those three summoning methods were used in the franchise. The fact that he also Pendulum Summons during that duel is just the icing on the top.cake.
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** Not a lot of people were fans of the Doktor, due to his mind-controlling of the bracelet girls. While his role does make sense from a broader story perspective, the bracelet girls were all DemotedToExtra as the series went on, losing much of their characterization and not doing much in the narrative aside from being {{Living MacGuffin}}s. It's not so much because of his personality (he was likely [[HateSink intended to be loathed]] anyways), but because of his contribution to TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below concerning the girls. Because they were under the control of the parasites, their personalities were shut down and they were effectively barred from having a more active role in the story's climax. It doesn't help that the Doktor himself was ultimately carded by the Professor before having a chance to duel ''at all'', meaning that not only did his subplot go nowhere, but his motivations and past with Academia were never explored, nor was his fate in the finale ever [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse revealed]].

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** Not The Doktor is probably the most unanimously disliked character in the series, as despite being a lot clearly-intended HateSink, he zooms well past the point of people were fans LoveToHate. The main reason for this is that his contribution to the plot is implanting parasites on the Bracelet Girls, causing them to spend most of the Doktor, due to his mind-controlling of show's last arc (and in the bracelet girls. While his role case of Rin and Ruri, the only arc where they play any role) BrainwashedAndCrazy. This is meant to be a bad thing, but as he does make sense from it a broader story perspective, the bracelet girls group of characters who were all DemotedToExtra being [[DemotedToExtra forced into the background]] as the series went on, losing much of he is seen as hugely contributing to their characterization and not doing much in wasted potential. What pushes him further, though, is just how [[NauseaFuel unnecessarily creepy]] the narrative aside from being {{Living MacGuffin}}s. It's not so much because whole miniarc is, as you're left with scenes of an ugly older man with a permanent grin implanting gross-looking worms inside teenage girls to make them do his personality (he was likely [[HateSink intended bidding--something that, to be loathed]] anyways), but because of his contribution to TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below concerning the girls. Because they were under the control of the parasites, their personalities were shut down and they were effectively barred from having a many viewers, felt more active role at home in the story's climax. It doesn't help that the Doktor himself was a hentai doujin than anything ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' should be doing. On top of all that, his arc ultimately carded by ends with a whimper, as [[TheUnfought the Professor before having a chance to duel ''at all'', meaning that main characters never fight or defeat him]]; Leo just cards him offhandedly and we never see him again, so there's not only did even any satisfaction to be gained from seeing him beaten. The character and his subplot go nowhere, but his motivations and past with Academia were never explored, nor is so hated that there was his fate a backlash to it even being ''acknowledged'' in one celebration pack (the card Kahyoreigetsu, which supports the finale ever [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse revealed]].Bracelet Girl archetypes, is also a Fusion Parasite searcher).
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** There is a lot of discussion about Yuya and Yuzu: Why are they the only characters to have cross-dimensional counterparts? Where do the Four Dimensional Dragons owned by the Yus come from, and what's the secret behind their SuperpoweredEvilSide? What's the purpose behind the bracelets worn by Yuzu and her other selves, and why does Yuzu's always teleport one of the Yus away whenever there's more than one of them close to her?

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** There is a lot of discussion about Yuya and Yuzu: Why are they the only characters to have cross-dimensional counterparts? Where do the Four Dimensional Heavenly Dragons owned by the Yus come from, and what's the secret behind their SuperpoweredEvilSide? What's the purpose behind the bracelets worn by Yuzu and her other selves, and why does Yuzu's always teleport one of the Yus away whenever there's more than one of them close to her?



** Zarc himself and his Servant Dragons are a bigger and better example of this. By just tributing Astrograph Sorcerer (a level 7 monster with no summoning restrictions itself and with an effect that places it on field while also recovering destroyed cards for more brokenness) Zarc gets to summon his namesake that on summon can destroy all monsters the opponent controls, and inflict their attack as damage to the opponent. Zarc cannot be destroyed or removed from field by any effects while there are any Fusion, Synchro or Xyz monsters banished or/and in graveyard, something Astrograph Sorcerer already makes to put Zarc on field. All monsters on Zarc's side are unaffected by the effects of opposing Synchro, Xyz and Fusion monsters. AND ON TOP of everything it destroys any card the opponent adds to the hand outside of the Draw Phase; sealing away any attempt the opponent may try to save themselves by playing Action Cards while countering decks that are heavily built on searching. Think you can prey on his Pendulum based "weakness"? By destroying an opponent's monster in battle, Zarc gets to summon 2 copies of Supreme King Servant Dragon Darkwurm, that while Zarc is on field allow him quick access to the corrupted versions of the Dimensional Dragons. While they all may qualify for the GameBreaker cathegory, the corrupted Odd-Eyes stands out as it originally didn't have any stun-based effects.

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** Zarc himself and his Servant Dragons are a bigger and better example of this. By just tributing Astrograph Sorcerer (a level Level 7 monster with no summoning restrictions itself himself and with an effect that places it him on field while also recovering destroyed cards for more brokenness) Zarc gets to summon his namesake that on summon can destroy all monsters the opponent controls, and inflict their attack as damage to the opponent. Zarc cannot be destroyed or removed from field by any effects while there are any Fusion, Synchro or Xyz monsters banished or/and in graveyard, something Astrograph Sorcerer already makes to put Zarc on field. All monsters on Zarc's side are unaffected by the effects of opposing Synchro, Xyz and Fusion monsters. AND ON TOP of everything it destroys any card the opponent adds to the hand outside of the Draw Phase; sealing away any attempt the opponent may try to save themselves by playing Action Cards while countering decks that are heavily built on searching. Think you can prey on his Pendulum based "weakness"? By destroying an opponent's monster in battle, Zarc gets to summon 2 copies of Supreme King Servant Dragon Darkwurm, that while Zarc is on field allow him quick access to the corrupted versions of the Dimensional Four Heavenly Dragons. While they all may qualify for the GameBreaker cathegory, the corrupted Odd-Eyes stands out as it originally didn't have any stun-based effects.



** Dark Requiem Xyz Dragon. It's an upgraded version of a Dimensional Dragon, has a very powerful effect, it has an absolutely ''gorgeous'' [[BloodStainedGlassWindows stained glass]] artwork, and it was Yuto's first duel since ''episode 36'' (Dark Requiem appears in ep. 104).

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** Dark Requiem Xyz Dragon. It's an upgraded version of a Dimensional Dragon, one of the Four Heavenly Dragons, has a very powerful effect, it has an absolutely ''gorgeous'' [[BloodStainedGlassWindows stained glass]] artwork, and it was Yuto's first duel since ''episode 36'' (Dark Requiem appears in ep. 104).
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** Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon's first summon, accompanied with the Awakened Yuya shouting "There is no next turn!".

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** Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon's first summon, accompanied with by the Awakened Yuya shouting "There is no next turn!".turn!". This line in particular gets quoted very often whenever Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon is discussed.

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** [[Creator/KenshoOno Yuya]] fighting [[Creator/DaisukeNamikawa Leo Akaba]] becomes funny when Yuya's seiyuu later voices [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind Giorno in the 2018 anime]]. Leo's [[Creator/DaisukeNamikawa seiyuu]] voiced Giorno in the Cyberconnect games, so essentially, it's Giorno vs Giorno.

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** [[Creator/KenshoOno Yuya]] fighting [[Creator/DaisukeNamikawa Leo Akaba]] becomes funny when Yuya's seiyuu later voices [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind Giorno in the 2018 anime]]. Leo's The Professor's [[Creator/DaisukeNamikawa seiyuu]] voiced Giorno in the Cyberconnect games, so essentially, it's Giorno vs Giorno.



** Leo in the manga continuity, as he's shown to be a [[GoodParents Good Parent]] for Reiji [[spoiler:and is not overly obsessed with bringing Ray back]].

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** Leo The Professor in the manga continuity, as he's shown to be a [[GoodParents Good Parent]] for Reiji [[spoiler:and is not overly obsessed with bringing Ray back]].



** Leo's anime incarnation. After spending most of the series sitting on his throne and doing nothing, with a boring personality to boot, [[spoiler:his plan is revealed to be thoroughly idiotic and leads to the revival of Zarc, meaning that everything that has happened in the series is his fault.]]
** Not a lot of people were fans of the Doktor, due to his mind-controlling of the bracelet girls. While his role does make sense from a broader story perspective, the bracelet girls were all DemotedToExtra as the series went on, losing much of their characterization and not doing much in the narrative aside from being {{Living MacGuffin}}s. It's not so much because of his personality (he was likely [[HateSink intended to be loathed]] anyways), but because of his contribution to TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below concerning the girls. Because they were under the control of the parasites, their personalities were shut down and they were effectively barred from having a more active role in the story's climax. It doesn't help that the Doktor himself was ultimately carded by Leo before having a chance to duel ''at all'', meaning that not only did his subplot go nowhere, but his motivations and past with Academia were never explored, nor was his fate in the finale ever [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse revealed]].

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** Leo's The Professor's anime incarnation. After spending most of the series sitting on his throne and doing nothing, with a boring personality to boot, [[spoiler:his plan is revealed to be thoroughly idiotic and leads to the revival of Zarc, meaning that everything that has happened in the series is his fault.]]
** Not a lot of people were fans of the Doktor, due to his mind-controlling of the bracelet girls. While his role does make sense from a broader story perspective, the bracelet girls were all DemotedToExtra as the series went on, losing much of their characterization and not doing much in the narrative aside from being {{Living MacGuffin}}s. It's not so much because of his personality (he was likely [[HateSink intended to be loathed]] anyways), but because of his contribution to TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below concerning the girls. Because they were under the control of the parasites, their personalities were shut down and they were effectively barred from having a more active role in the story's climax. It doesn't help that the Doktor himself was ultimately carded by Leo the Professor before having a chance to duel ''at all'', meaning that not only did his subplot go nowhere, but his motivations and past with Academia were never explored, nor was his fate in the finale ever [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse revealed]].


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** It's a no-brainer that the pendant changing Yuya's cards into Pendulum Cards and him performing his first Pendulum Summon would be this.
** Reiji using Fusion, Synchro and Xyz Summoning for the first time on-screen, which is also the first time those three summoning methods were used in the franchise. The fact that he also Pendulum Summons during that duel is just the icing on the top.
** Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon's first summon, accompanied with the Awakened Yuya shouting "There is no next turn!".
** Supreme King Dragon Z-ARC's summoning. People will often clip this whenever they summon Z-ARC in a duel.
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* BetterThanCanon: After [[spoiler:the Zarc Duel]] became one of the most criticized in the franchise, a good number of people seem to have chosen a [[https://youtu.be/QUMPJ3c2Fis fan-scripted duel]] where the other protagonists faced off against him as an alternative - partly for [[WhoWouldWin the obvious reason]], and partly for featuring the clever plays, back-and-forth pacing, and climactic finish that the original was seen as lacking.

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That's a success on the part of Duel Links, not ARC-V.


* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shay/Kurosaki) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.



* VindicatedByHistory: During it’s lifetime, the English dub had a very poor rep, owing to the “subbing” part of the SubbingVsDubbing community being prominent and the fact it inserted humour into the script and included several [[DubNameChange changed names]] and New York-based VAs, long after those were gone from most other anime. Nowadays, following the release of the dub for [[Anime/YuGiOhVrains the next show]], which got some praise from the fan base, and the inclusion of Arc-V in VideoGame/YuGiOhDuelLinks, along with the idea that “dubbing is inherently inferior” generally dying down, quite a few more people are willing to speak in its defence. And the voices that were previously criticised for VocalDissonance are now seen as the opposite.
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** In the dub, the high-pitched, nasally voice Michael Liscio Jr. uses for DraconicAbomination Z-ARC completely kills any sort of menace the guy could possibly have.
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*** It goes FromBadToWorse in Season 3. Whereas in Season 2 she still ''did'' receive some duels and awesome moments like helping to expose Roget's plan to the public, in Season 3 she is only a LivingMacGuffin and DistressedDamsel used to motivate Yuya into action, as if everything else happening around him wasn't enough. To put things into perspective, her final duel in the 148-episode series is Episode 83, against Security {{Mooks}}, and it was a Tag Duel in which Sora pulled most of the weight.

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*** It goes FromBadToWorse in Season 3. Whereas in Season 2 she still ''did'' receive some duels and awesome moments like helping to expose Roget's plan to the public, in Season 3 she is only a LivingMacGuffin and DistressedDamsel DamselInDistress used to motivate Yuya into action, as if everything else happening around him wasn't enough. To put things into perspective, her final duel in the 148-episode series is Episode 83, against Security {{Mooks}}, and it was a Tag Duel in which Sora pulled most of the weight.
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** The pun used with Yugo's name in the Japanese doesn't work in English [[note]] It's pronounced almost the same as Yuugou, or Fusion[[/note]], so on some occasions in the dub they substitute it with his opponents thinking he's telling them 'you go'. The name jokes are occasionally re-written into a different gag altogether, such as in his duel against Serena, where Yugo originally had the predictable response to her activating Polymerization, to which Serena responds by shouting at him to shut up and let her finish her turn. In the dub, it's changed to him getting mad at her for riffing on his first turn, accidentally calling her Rin in the process and prompting Celina to yell at him for getting her name wrong ''again''. In turn, this actually makes Celina's outburst a lot more fitting, since she previously decked him for calling her Rin (and this was kept in the dub), giving a good idea of how much it annoys her.

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** The pun used with Yugo's name in the Japanese doesn't work in English [[note]] It's pronounced almost the same as Yuugou, or Fusion[[/note]], so on some occasions in the dub they substitute it with his opponents thinking he's telling them 'you go'. The name jokes are occasionally re-written into a different gag altogether, such as in his duel against Serena, where Yugo originally had the predictable response to her activating Polymerization, to which Serena responds by shouting at him to shut up and let her finish her turn. In the dub, it's changed to him getting mad at her for riffing on his rather unimpressive first turn, accidentally calling her Rin in the process and prompting Celina to yell at him for getting her name wrong ''again''. In turn, this actually makes Celina's outburst a lot more fitting, since she previously decked him for calling her Rin (and this was kept in the dub), giving a good idea of how much it annoys her.her while making the humor come off as more natural and less forced.

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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shay/Kurosaki) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.


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* VindicatedByHistory: During it’s lifetime, the English dub had a very poor rep, owing to the “subbing” part of the SubbingVsDubbing community being prominent and the fact it inserted humour into the script and included several [[DubNameChange changed names]] and New York-based VAs, long after those were gone from most other anime. Nowadays, following the release of the dub for [[Anime/YuGiOhVrains the next show]], which got some praise from the fan base, and the inclusion of Arc-V in VideoGame/YuGiOhDuelLinks, along with the idea that “dubbing is inherently inferior” generally dying down, quite a few more people are willing to speak in its defence. And the voices that were previously criticised for VocalDissonance are now seen as the opposite.
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* UncertainAudience: It was very evident as the series went on that it didn't know if it wanted to be a DeconstructorFleet with heavy doses of WarIsHell and HumansAreBastards (which was apparently the goal of the lead writer), or a MilestoneCelebration about the fulfillment of bringing joy and happiness through entertainment (apparently the goal of the director and producers). This resulted in episodes where Yuya's Entertainment Duel is treated as fundamentally flawed and doomed to failure being followed by ones where it singlehandedly provokes societal change because it's just that good, villains who are shown as utterly irredeemable [[EasilyForgiven who then turn face with barely any effort]], [[MoodWhiplash plot points that alternate between terrifyingly grim and absurdly saccharine]], and an ending that is [[spoiler:[[EsotericHappyEnding presented as a happy wrapup but apparently leaves multiple characters in a very unenviable fate]]]]. A common refrain was that people who wanted the show to embrace its darker elements found it too goofy, ridiculous, and immature, while people who wanted the show to just be a lighthearted adventure with fun characters were turned off by the massive bodycount and misanthropic messaging.

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* UncertainAudience: It was very evident as the series went on that it didn't know if it wanted to be a DeconstructorFleet with heavy doses of WarIsHell and HumansAreBastards (which was apparently the goal of the lead writer), producer), or a MilestoneCelebration about the fulfillment of bringing joy and happiness through entertainment (apparently the goal of the director and producers).director). This resulted in episodes where Yuya's Entertainment Duel is treated as fundamentally flawed and doomed to failure being followed by ones where it singlehandedly provokes societal change because it's just that good, villains who are shown as utterly irredeemable [[EasilyForgiven who then turn face with barely any effort]], [[MoodWhiplash plot points that alternate between terrifyingly grim and absurdly saccharine]], and an ending that is [[spoiler:[[EsotericHappyEnding presented as a happy wrapup but apparently leaves multiple characters in a very unenviable fate]]]]. A common refrain was that people who wanted the show to embrace its darker elements found it too goofy, ridiculous, and immature, while people who wanted the show to just be a lighthearted adventure with fun characters were turned off by the massive bodycount and misanthropic messaging.
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* AmericansHateTingle: While the issue of the legacy characters is generally agreed across borders that they sucked and were one of the worst elemts of the show, the western fandom in particular gravitates towards Crow as the worst of the bunch. Already a BaseBreakingCharacter in his home series among English-speaking audiences, his arrival heralded what many saw as the start of [[CreatorsPet director Katsumi Ono's favouritism]] for [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's characters]]. Japanese audiences conversely don't hate him on the same level as many of the other legacy characters, citing Edo, Kaito and ''especially'' Jack as worse examples of the concept done badly.

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* AmericansHateTingle: While the issue of the legacy characters is generally agreed across borders that they sucked and were one of the worst elemts elements of the show, the western fandom in particular gravitates towards Crow as the worst of the bunch. Already a BaseBreakingCharacter in his home series among English-speaking audiences, his arrival heralded what many saw as the start of [[CreatorsPet director Katsumi Ono's favouritism]] for [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's characters]]. Japanese audiences conversely don't hate him on the same level as many of the other legacy characters, citing Edo, Kaito and ''especially'' Jack as worse examples of the concept done badly.
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* AmericansHateTingle: While the issue of the legacy characters is generall agreed across borders that they sucked, the western fandom in particular gravitates towards Crow as the worst of the bunch. Already a BaseBreakingCharacter in his home series among English-speaking audiences, his arrival heralded what many saw as the start of [[CreatorsPet director Katsumi Ono's favouritism]] for [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's characters]]. Japanese audiences conversely don't hate him on the same level as many of the other legacy characters, citing Edo, Kaito and ''especially'' Jack as worse examples of the concept done badly.

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* AmericansHateTingle: While the issue of the legacy characters is generall generally agreed across borders that they sucked, sucked and were one of the worst elemts of the show, the western fandom in particular gravitates towards Crow as the worst of the bunch. Already a BaseBreakingCharacter in his home series among English-speaking audiences, his arrival heralded what many saw as the start of [[CreatorsPet director Katsumi Ono's favouritism]] for [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's characters]]. Japanese audiences conversely don't hate him on the same level as many of the other legacy characters, citing Edo, Kaito and ''especially'' Jack as worse examples of the concept done badly.

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* AmericansHateTingle: While the issue of the legacy characters is generall agreed across borders that they sucked, the western fandom in particular gravitates towards Crow as the worst of the bunch. Already a BaseBreakingCharacter in his home series among English-speaking audiences, his arrival heralded what many saw as the start of [[CreatorsPet director Katsumi Ono's favouritism]] for [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's characters]]. Japanese audiences conversely don't hate him on the same level as many of the other legacy characters, citing Edo, Kaito and ''especially'' Jack as worse examples of the concept done badly.



* AmericansHateTingle: While the issue of the legacy characters is generall agreed across borders that they sucked, the western fandom in particular gravitates towards Crow as the worst of the bunch. Already a BaseBreakingCharacter in his home series among English-speaking audiences, his arrival heralded what many saw as the start of [[CreatorsPet director Katsumi Ono's favouritism]] for [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's characters]]. Japanese audiences conversely don't hate him on the same level as many of the other legacy characters, citing Edo, Kaito and ''especially'' Jack as worse examples of the concept.
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* AmericansHateTingle: While the issue of the legacy characters is generall agreed across borders that they sucked, the western fandom in particular gravitates towards Crow as the worst of the bunch. Already a BaseBreakingCharacter in his home series among English-speaking audiences, his arrival heralded what many saw as the start of [[CreatorsPet director Katsumi Ono's favouritism]] for [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's characters]]. Japanese audiences conversely don't hate him on the same level as many of the other legacy characters, citing Edo, Kaito and ''especially'' Jack as worse examples of the concept.
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** Kaito's interactions with Ruri are a bit funny if you think outside of the franchise. Kaito's [[Creator/KoukiUchiyama seiyuu]] voices Raku from ''Manga/{{Nisekoi}}'', and one of the supporting characters is named [[NamesTheSame Ruri]].

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** Kaito's interactions with Ruri are a bit funny if you think outside of the franchise. Kaito's [[Creator/KoukiUchiyama seiyuu]] voices Raku from ''Manga/{{Nisekoi}}'', and one of the supporting characters is named [[NamesTheSame Ruri]].Ruri.
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** The fact that the Academia was a copy of Duel Academia put a lot of events and CharacterDevelopment of ''GX'' into consideration of how similar they are to the soldiers from the Academia and how they might have turned had Professor Leo Akaba invaded Duel Academia. This is made more poignant in the dub, due to both Duel Academia and Academia being localised as [[NamesTheSame Duel Academy]].[[note]]While they both have the same official name (Duel Academia) in the original version, the ''ARC-V'' version is nearly always referred to simply as Academia to contrast it with ''GX'''s Duel Academia, making it more of an EvilCounterpart name; the number of times it's referred to as Duel Academia instead of Academia can be counted on one hand. Conversely, the dub uses the name Duel Academy for both.[[/note]]

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** The fact that the Academia was a copy of Duel Academia put a lot of events and CharacterDevelopment of ''GX'' into consideration of how similar they are to the soldiers from the Academia and how they might have turned had Professor Leo Akaba invaded Duel Academia. This is made more poignant in the dub, due to both Duel Academia and Academia being localised as [[NamesTheSame Duel Academy]].Academy.[[note]]While they both have the same official name (Duel Academia) in the original version, the ''ARC-V'' version is nearly always referred to simply as Academia to contrast it with ''GX'''s Duel Academia, making it more of an EvilCounterpart name; the number of times it's referred to as Duel Academia instead of Academia can be counted on one hand. Conversely, the dub uses the name Duel Academy for both.[[/note]]
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* CrossoverShip: Quite popular is [=SerenaX=][[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Serena]], due to NamesTheSame.

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* CrossoverShip: Quite popular is [=SerenaX=][[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Serena]], due to NamesTheSame.sharing the same name.
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* IdiotPlot: None of the entire series would have happened if the professor had any common sense and didn't weaponize the Antichrist.
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May as well mention the name of the chracter he portrays, and for clarification's sake, the name the character is primarily referred to with in the Japanese version.


* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.

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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) Shay/Kurosaki) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.
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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowlderisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.

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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]]; 4K Media]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowlderisation]] Bowdlerisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.
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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowlderisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.

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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowlderisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music music, rampant censorship of content and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.
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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowlderisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors actors involved.

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* {{Macekre}}: Even by the standards of [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]]; who are utterly infamous in the English-speaking anime community for the excessive [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowlderisation]] of the shows they localise, ARC-V's dub feels particularly unproffessional and amateurish at points. [[GagDub The joke-laden scripts]], changed (often inferior) music and questionable-at-best [[DubNameChange Dub Name Changes]] got on the nerves of a lot of viewers, making an [[BrokenBase already-controversial entry in the series]] an even harder pill to swallow for dub-only watchers. While some performances (notably Creator/MattShipman as Shun) are well-recieved by fans, even their quality is often shaky and unreliable compared to several performances that feel phoned in or just utterly-baffling on behalf of the directors and actors involved.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: While the legacy characters are a divisive issue overall for international audiences, Jack Atlas tended to face the ''least'' disdain out of the five. This is decidedly ''not'' the case in Japan, where he was outright hated due to being seen as emblematic of the series', and more specifically Katsumi Ono's, [[CreatorsPet favoritism]] towards ''5D's''. One Japanese wiki in particular went as far as to delete all traces of Jack's involvement in ''ARC-V'' on his character page, an edit that remains to this day.

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** Despite the Japanese fandom's ''vitriolic'' hatred of ARC-V to the point of it reaching the 10 lowest-ranked anime episodes '''OF ALL TIME''' on the website ''Website/NicoNicoDouga'' until the release of ''Anime/KemonoFriends'' season 2, the western fandom is ([[DownplayedTrope relatively]]) more sympathetic to the series and its faults, speaking more highly of ARC-V's first season and overall viewing the series as more missed potential than as "[[DarthWiki/RuinedForever the worst anime ever]]". [[SubvertedTrope However]], the general consensus on the ending remains the same across borders.
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While the legacy characters are a divisive issue overall for international audiences, Jack Atlas tended to face the ''least'' disdain out of the five. This is decidedly ''not'' the case in Japan, where he was outright hated due to being seen as emblematic of the series', and more specifically Katsumi Ono's, [[CreatorsPet favoritism]] towards ''5D's''. One Japanese wiki in particular went as far as to delete all traces of Jack's involvement in ''ARC-V'' on his character page, an edit that remains to this day.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** The end of the duel between [[spoiler:Jack and Sergey]] is very similar to the infamous Team Unicorn duel of ''5D's''; the villain, fired up by his opponent's fighting spirit, sacrifices a game-ending move to draw out the duel and the hero triumphs for it. However, due to multiple factors in how the characters were written and how the duel ended, it comes off ''much'' better done than in ''5D's''.
** As mentioned [[BrokenBase below]], there were complaints about the lack of focus on Ritual Summoning, and in season three another Ritual duelist, [[spoiler:Asuka/Alexis]] was finally introduced.
** The Xyz Arc did a lot to address concerns people had during Season 2. The plot was back on track and moving at a faster pace, legacy characters are being better utilized, Yuto returns from his long bus trip, and long-running questions were closer to being answered. The short length of the arc soured things quite a bit however.
** While Sawatari getting jobbed is nothing new, Gongenzaka beginning to slip into this has been poorly received. So after he and Sawatari lost to the Tyler Sisters, the show took care to remind the audience that Tag Duels share a Graveyard, and given Gongenzaka's need to have a Spell/Trap free Graveyard and Sawatari's reliance on them, this would regardless put one of them at a huge disadvantage and cause an easy loss on their part.
** Dennis having [[spoiler:Chaos Ancient Gear Giant]] as his apparent true Fusion ace was seen by many fans as underwhelming; so when he revealed in his Duel with [[spoiler:Kaito]] that he does indeed have an Entermage/Performage Fusion monster this was well-received.
** Complaints about [[spoiler:Kaito]] stealing [[spoiler:Kurosaki's]] spot were mitigated by him returning from Heartland to see his [[spoiler:corrupted sister.]]
** Episode 141 is a big one, with [[spoiler:a return to focus on the Standard characters rather than legacy, the return of monsters and moves that had been DemotedToExtra, and Tsukikage finally using Pendulums]].
** Repeat airings of Episode 147, where Yuya initially made an illegal move[[note]]Pendulum Summoning the Level 2 Performapal Odd-Eyes Synchron with the lower end of the Scale being the Scale 3 Performapal Odd-Eyes Priest[[/note]] fixed the error by changing the Scale of Odd-Eyes Priest to 1.


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** There were complaints about the lack of focus on Ritual Summoning, and in season three another Ritual duelist, [[spoiler:Asuka/Alexis]] was finally introduced.
** The Xyz Arc did a lot to address concerns people had during Season 2. The plot was back on track and moving at a faster pace, legacy characters are being better utilized, Yuto returns from his long bus trip, and long-running questions were closer to being answered. The short length of the arc soured things quite a bit however.
** While Sawatari getting jobbed is nothing new, Gongenzaka beginning to slip into this has been poorly received. So after he and Sawatari lost to the Tyler Sisters, the show took care to remind the audience that Tag Duels share a Graveyard, and given Gongenzaka's need to have a Spell/Trap free Graveyard and Sawatari's reliance on them, this would regardless put one of them at a huge disadvantage and cause an easy loss on their part.
** Dennis having [[spoiler:Chaos Ancient Gear Giant]] as his apparent true Fusion ace was seen by many fans as underwhelming; so when he revealed in his Duel with [[spoiler:Kaito]] that he does indeed have an Entermage/Performage Fusion monster this was well-received.
** Complaints about [[spoiler:Kaito]] stealing [[spoiler:Kurosaki's]] spot were mitigated by him returning from Heartland to see his [[spoiler:corrupted sister.]]
** Episode 141 is a big one, with [[spoiler:a return to focus on the Standard characters rather than legacy, the return of monsters and moves that had been DemotedToExtra, and Tsukikage finally using Pendulums]].
** Repeat airings of Episode 147, where Yuya initially made an illegal move[[note]]Pendulum Summoning the Level 2 Performapal Odd-Eyes Synchron with the lower end of the Scale being the Scale 3 Performapal Odd-Eyes Priest[[/note]] fixed the error by changing the Scale of Odd-Eyes Priest to 1.
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** Not a lot of people were fans of the Doktor, due to his mind-controlling of the bracelet girls. While his role does make sense from a broader story perspective, the bracelet girls were all DemotedToExtra as the series went on, losing much of their characterization and not doing much in the narrative aside from being [[LivingMacguffin living macguffins]]. It's not so much because of his personality (Though he was likely [[HateSink intended to be loathed anyways]]), but because of his contribution to TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below concerning the girls. Because they were under the control of the parasites, their personalities were shut down and they were effectively barred from having a more active role in the story's climax. It doesn't help that the Doktor himself was ultimately carded by Leo before having a chance to duel ''at all'', meaning that not only did his subplot go nowhere, but his motivations and past with Academia were never explored, nor was his fate in the finale ever [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse revealed]].

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** Not a lot of people were fans of the Doktor, due to his mind-controlling of the bracelet girls. While his role does make sense from a broader story perspective, the bracelet girls were all DemotedToExtra as the series went on, losing much of their characterization and not doing much in the narrative aside from being [[LivingMacguffin living macguffins]]. {{Living MacGuffin}}s. It's not so much because of his personality (Though he (he was likely [[HateSink intended to be loathed anyways]]), loathed]] anyways), but because of his contribution to TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below concerning the girls. Because they were under the control of the parasites, their personalities were shut down and they were effectively barred from having a more active role in the story's climax. It doesn't help that the Doktor himself was ultimately carded by Leo before having a chance to duel ''at all'', meaning that not only did his subplot go nowhere, but his motivations and past with Academia were never explored, nor was his fate in the finale ever [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse revealed]].

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