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** StarClan gradually slid down to this over the franchise, due to fans being irritated with how they act like deities when they're just dead cats and have manipulated and screwed over several cats for their agendas, but it reached a breaking point in A Light in the Mist. They reveal they denied Juniperclaw StarClan because he broke the code and being sorry at his death wasn't enough, even though they have let in cats like Mudclaw for the exact same thing. They criticize and condemn Juniperclaw and the Dark Forest cats who want to redeem themselves, saying redemption isn't possible, when atoners like Needletail and Skystar are in their ranks. They proclaim the code is the most important thing, when the whole arc was about showing the weaknesses in the code and how it can be exploited. But the nail in the coffin is that they say all this after letting in Ashfur, a mistake so monumental it caused the entire events of this arc, a mistake that shows their judgment is not nearly as perfect as they'd like to pretend—yet this flaw and their double standards are ignored by the narrative, suggesting readers are supposed to see them as being in the right. Taken all together, they come across as judgmental, self-righteous, and hypocritical instead of the wise ancestor guides they're supposed to be.

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** StarClan gradually slid down to this over the franchise, due to fans being irritated with how they act like deities when they're just dead cats and have manipulated and screwed over several cats for their agendas, but it reached and one particular instance of doing this is when they, most notably Spottedleaf, Leafpool on to elope with Crowfeather for the sake of a prophecy, only to shame her for doing so. Then Leafpool becomes pregnant, and in ''Leafpool's Wish'' StarClan's solution to the problem is to lie to Squirrelflight about her infertility to make her adopt Leafpool's kits, while Leafpool herself cannot stop them because as a medicine cat it's her job to trust StarClan's word. This leads to the secret getting out, Brambleclaw breaking point in A Light up with Squirrelflight, Leafpool losing her job and one of her kits, and said kit, Hollyleaf, attempting to kill Leafpool and then vanishing in the Mist. They reveal they denied Juniperclaw tunnels. The direct consequences continue to haunt both sisters until the end of ''Omen of the Stars'', whereupon StarClan because he broke is never admonished for setting up the code sisters to break the code, and being sorry at his death wasn't enough, even though they have let in cats like Mudclaw has the gall to ''put Leafpool and Squirrelflight on trial for the exact same thing. They criticize and condemn Juniperclaw and the Dark Forest cats who want to redeem themselves, saying redemption isn't possible, when atoners like Needletail and Skystar are in a crime StarClan manipulated them into committing'', again without facing consequences for their ranks. They proclaim the code is the most important thing, when the whole arc actions. For many fans, this was about showing the weaknesses in the code a step too far and how it can be exploited. But the nail in the coffin is that they say all this after letting in Ashfur, a mistake so monumental it caused cite the entire events trial scene in particular as a negative of this arc, a mistake that shows their judgment is not nearly as perfect as they'd like to pretend—yet this flaw and their double standards are ignored by the narrative, suggesting readers are supposed to see them as being in the right. Taken all together, they come across as judgmental, self-righteous, and hypocritical instead of the wise ancestor guides they're supposed to be.''Squirrelflight's Hope''.



*** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote:Note]] However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]

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*** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway.anyway, and he even cites the kits' half-Clan blood as a reason to reveal the secret, saying that they aren't truly ThunderClan. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote:Note]] However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]



*** And finally, Appledusk. Great [=StarClan,=] Appledusk. He's supposed to be considered an honorable and loyal [=RiverClan=] cat who died heroically by saving his mate from being killed by [[UnintentionallySympathetic Mapleshade]], but his actions make it very hard to see him in any kind of positive light. After their kits drown in the river, he calls their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan to get back in their good graces, casts her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, [[KickTheDog and takes Reedshine as his new mate, just to really hammer it in that they're through]]. Even worse, it's implied he was seeing her even before he broke up with Mapleshade (as Reedshine is seen to be pregnant with his kits almost immediately after). Even though he's technically not a villain, many fans despise him with a passion for what he did to Mapleshade and blame him for her downfall. Some even believe he should have been exiled from his Clan, sent to the Dark Forest, or [[DeaderThanDead killed twice.]]

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*** And finally, Appledusk. Great [=StarClan,=] Appledusk. He's supposed to be considered an honorable and loyal [=RiverClan=] cat who died heroically by saving his mate from being killed by [[UnintentionallySympathetic Mapleshade]], but his actions make it very hard to see him in any kind of positive light. After their kits drown in the river, he calls their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan to get back in their good graces, casts her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, [[KickTheDog and takes Reedshine as his new mate, just to really hammer it in that they're through]]. Even worse, it's implied he was seeing her even before he broke up with Mapleshade (as Reedshine was flirting with him at the start of the novel and is seen to be pregnant with his kits almost immediately after). Even though he's technically not a villain, many fans despise him with a passion for what he did to Mapleshade and blame him for her downfall. Some even believe he should have been exiled from his Clan, sent to the Dark Forest, or [[DeaderThanDead killed twice.]]
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** StarClan gradually slid down to this over the franchise, due to fans being irritated with how they act like deities when they're just dead cats and have manipulated and screwed over several cats for their agendas, but it reached a breaking point in A Light in the Mist. They reveal they denied Juniperclaw StarClan because he broke the code and being sorry at his death wasn't enough, even though they have let in cats like Mudclaw for the exact same thing. They criticize and condemn Juniperclaw and the Dark Forest cats who want to redeem themselves, saying redemption isn't possible, when atoners like Needletail and Skystar are in their ranks. They proclaim the code is the most important thing, when the whole arc was about showing the weaknesses in the code and how it can be exploited. But the nail in the coffin is that they say all this after letting in Ashfur, a mistake so monumental it caused the entire events of this arc, a mistake that shows their judgment is not nearly as perfect as they'd like to pretend—yet this flaw and their double standards are ignored by the narrative, suggesting readers are supposed to see them as being in the right. Taken all together, they come across as judgmental, self-righteous, and hypocritical instead of the wise ancestor guides they're supposed to be.
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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote:Note]] However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]
** Frecklewish is painted as a cat who was grieving over her brother and heartbroken to find out that her brother's kits were actually his killer's children, with Nettlebreeze even describing her as a "poor and helpless" victim of Mapleshade's cruelty. Frecklewish's anger at Mapleshade for allowing her to believe she was her brother's mate is understandable, but her viciousness towards Mapleshade's innocent kits when she finds out they aren't her brother's, spitting at them, calling them "half-Clan creatures", and shouting for them to be kicked out of the Clan, is unjustifiable. Because of that, many fans didn't feel very sorry for her when a snake spit venom in her eyes.
** And finally, Appledusk. Great [=StarClan,=] Appledusk. He's supposed to be considered an honorable and loyal [=RiverClan=] cat who died heroically by saving his mate from being killed by [[UnintentionallySympathetic Mapleshade]], but his actions make it very hard to see him in any kind of positive light. After their kits drown in the river, he calls their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan to get back in their good graces, casts her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, [[KickTheDog and takes Reedshine as his new mate, just to really hammer it in that they're through]]. Even worse, it's implied he was seeing her even before he broke up with Mapleshade (as Reedshine is seen to be pregnant with his kits almost immediately after). Even though he's technically not a villain, many fans despise him with a passion for what he did to Mapleshade and blame him for her downfall. Some even believe he should have been exiled from his Clan, sent to the Dark Forest, or [[DeaderThanDead killed twice.]]

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** *** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote:Note]] However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]
** *** Frecklewish is painted as a cat who was grieving over her brother and heartbroken to find out that her brother's kits were actually his killer's children, with Nettlebreeze even describing her as a "poor and helpless" victim of Mapleshade's cruelty. Frecklewish's anger at Mapleshade for allowing her to believe she was her brother's mate is understandable, but her viciousness towards Mapleshade's innocent kits when she finds out they aren't her brother's, spitting at them, calling them "half-Clan creatures", and shouting for them to be kicked out of the Clan, is unjustifiable. Because of that, many fans didn't feel very sorry for her when a snake spit venom in her eyes.
** *** And finally, Appledusk. Great [=StarClan,=] Appledusk. He's supposed to be considered an honorable and loyal [=RiverClan=] cat who died heroically by saving his mate from being killed by [[UnintentionallySympathetic Mapleshade]], but his actions make it very hard to see him in any kind of positive light. After their kits drown in the river, he calls their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan to get back in their good graces, casts her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, [[KickTheDog and takes Reedshine as his new mate, just to really hammer it in that they're through]]. Even worse, it's implied he was seeing her even before he broke up with Mapleshade (as Reedshine is seen to be pregnant with his kits almost immediately after). Even though he's technically not a villain, many fans despise him with a passion for what he did to Mapleshade and blame him for her downfall. Some even believe he should have been exiled from his Clan, sent to the Dark Forest, or [[DeaderThanDead killed twice.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In ''Redtail's Debt'', Tigerclaw saves Redpaw from a hawk. Redpaw tells him that he owes him one, but Tigerclaw replies that Redpaw owes him his life. Considering what happened to Redtail later in life, it makes that line become one.


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** In ''Redtail's Debt'', Tigerclaw saves Redpaw from a hawk. Redpaw tells him that he owes him one, but Tigerclaw replies that Redpaw owes him his life. Considering what happened to Redtail later in life, it makes that line become one.
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** In ''A Starless Clan'', [=ThunderClan=] leader Bramblestar has a very drastic personality change in being more passive, paranoid, and tired. Comments made about it from various cats point out that Bramblestar is suffering from a form of PTSD after being [[GrandTheftMe as a ghost for the majority of ''The Broken Code'']], and being stuck in the Dark Forest to be tortured by Ashfur.

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** In ''A Starless Clan'', [=ThunderClan=] leader Bramblestar has a very drastic personality change in being more passive, paranoid, and tired. Comments made about it from various cats point out that Bramblestar is suffering from a form of PTSD after being [[GrandTheftMe as a ghost for the majority of ''The Broken Code'']], the arc]], and being stuck in the Dark Forest to be tortured by Ashfur.
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** It was largely speculated in ''Moth Flight's Vision'' that the titular character was somewhere on the autism spectrum. It was later confirmed to be ADD.
** In ''A Starless Clan'', [=ThunderClan=] leader Bramblestar has a very drastic personality change in being more passive, paranoid, and tired. Comments made about it from various cats point out that Bramblestar is suffering from a form of PTSD after being [[GrandTheftMe as a ghost for the majority of ''The Broken Code'']], and being stuck in the Dark Forest to be tortured by Ashfur.
** A downplayed variant, but protagonist Nightheart seems to suffer from PTSD as well during his time under Ashfur's reign of [=ThunderClan=] possessing Bramblestar's body. Bramblestar raises his voice at Nightheart once in ''Sky'', and that results in Nightheart getting scared and shaking in terror as he recalls the abuse he suffered under Ashfur.
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** Hawkfrost killing Hollyleaf is usually depicted in [[=MAPs=] and [=PMVs=] as a CurbStompBattle, when in the books Hollyleaf actually seriously wounds Hawkfrost and sends him fleeing, then [[PostVictoryCollapse collapses from a previously unseen wound afterwards.]]

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** Hawkfrost killing Hollyleaf is usually depicted in [[=MAPs=] [=MAPs=] and [=PMVs=] as a CurbStompBattle, when in the books Hollyleaf actually seriously wounds Hawkfrost and sends him fleeing, then [[PostVictoryCollapse collapses from a previously unseen wound afterwards.]]
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The series is about cute, fluffy cats, living in a very violent fantasy 'verse. It has a public, but it's not composed of the small children that could appreciate cute cats in bloody fights but are turned off by the continuity and the complexity of the verse, nor by the older children and teenagers that could be drawn by the fantasy drama but are turned off by the fluffy cats starring it.
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* AbandonShipping: Bramblestar/Squirrelflight, which was once very popular, has since fallen out of favor with fans in recent years due to their lack of proper communication, relationship drama, and OfficialCoupleOrdealSyndrome. Additionally, more fans have started seeing their relationship as abusive or toxic, and simply want them to split up.

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Bramblestar/Squirrelflight, which was once very popular, has since fallen out of favor with fans in recent years due to their lack of proper communication, relationship drama, and OfficialCoupleOrdealSyndrome. Additionally, more fans have started seeing their relationship as abusive or toxic, and simply want them to split up.up.
** Bumblestripe/Dovewing used to be a rather popular pairing, as fans saw him as a healthier alternative to Tigerheart since he was in the same Clan as her so she wouldn’t have to deal with all the forbidden relationship drama. However, later books showed that Dovewing clearly didn’t reciprocate as strongly as him, and he in turn began to act like a Diet Ashfur, pushing the subject of kits on her during Purdy’s funeral and acting upset and entitled when she didn’t return his feelings towards her.

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: The era spanning from the end of ''The Power of Three'' up until the release of ''The Broken Code'' can be considered this. ''Omen of the Stars'' is one of, if not ''the'' most divisive arcs in ''Warrior Cats'', and ''A Vision of Shadows'' is nowadays widely seen as a rather hit-or-miss arc that just didn't live up to any potential it had. ''Omen of the Stars''' heavy focus on the more spiritual aspects is a departure from the more grounded feeling that the early arcs had, and is the first to directly build off of the plot of a previous arc, leading to ContinuityLockout; ''Warriors'' is, for better or for worse, a series built off of being as welcoming to new readers as possible. ''A Vision of Shadows'' attempts to pull off a NothingIsTheSameAnymore towards its first half, but as its main villain is killed off before even the second can begin, it instead becomes a story focused on the political drama between the Clans, with StatusQuoIsGod being reinstated soon after. The fact that ''Omen of the Stars'' was meant to be a GrandFinale to the ''Warriors'' series as a whole (''DOTC'' was meant more as a send-off than any meaningful continuation) did not help. There's also the meta aspect of many of the readers who had gotten into the series at its height during the mid-to-late 2000s as kids/teenagers now being young adults or just coming into teenagehood who would consider Warriors too "childish" and branch out into other interests in the time of their release (early-to-late 2010s).



* DorkAge: The era spanning from the end of ''The Power of Three'' up until the release of ''The Broken Code'' can be considered this. ''Omen of the Stars'' is one of, if not ''the'' most divisive arcs in ''Warrior Cats'', and ''A Vision of Shadows'' is nowadays widely seen as a rather hit-or-miss arc that just didn't live up to any potential it had. ''Omen of the Stars''' heavy focus on the more spiritual aspects is a departure from the more grounded feeling that the early arcs had, and is the first to directly build off of the plot of a previous arc, leading to ContinuityLockout; ''Warriors'' is, for better or for worse, a series built off of being as welcoming to new readers as possible. ''A Vision of Shadows'' attempts to pull off a NothingIsTheSameAnymore towards its first half, but as its main villain is killed off before even the second can begin, it instead becomes a story focused on the political drama between the Clans, with StatusQuoIsGod being reinstated soon after. The fact that ''Omen of the Stars'' was meant to be a GrandFinale to the ''Warriors'' series as a whole (''DOTC'' was meant more as a send-off than any meaningful continuation) did not help. There's also the meta aspect of many of the readers who had gotten into the series at its height during the mid-to-late 2000s as kids/teenagers now being young adults or just coming into teenagehood who would consider Warriors too "childish" and branch out into other interests in the time of their release (early-to-late 2010s).
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** Who was in the right during the events of ''Mapleshade's Vengeance:'' Mapleshade herself, or Ravenwing, Frecklewish, and Appledusk? Many fans give Mapleshade the DracoInLeatherPants treatment and say she was 100% justified in murdering the three cats because they were partly responsible for the tragic events that happened to her (Ravenwing for exposing her secret and getting her kicked out of the Clan, Frecklewish for not saving her kits, and Appledusk blaming her for their kits' deaths and taking a new mate). Others believe that Mapleshade has no excuse for her actions, and that her three victims did not deserve to be murdered and were only doing what they thought was right (Ravenwing could not lie to his Clan leader, Frecklewish thought the kits would be saved by [=RiverClan=], and Appledusk really did hold her responsible for the deaths of their children). A third contingent goes with BothSidesHaveAPoint and believes that, while the three cats shouldn't have done what they did, and Mapleshade did have the right to hate them, she crossed the MoralEventHorizon by murdering them in cold blood.

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** Who was in the right during the events of ''Mapleshade's Vengeance:'' Mapleshade herself, or Ravenwing, Frecklewish, and Appledusk? Many fans give Mapleshade the DracoInLeatherPants treatment and say she was 100% justified in murdering the three cats because they were partly responsible for the tragic events that happened to her (Ravenwing for exposing her secret and getting her kicked out of the Clan, Frecklewish for not saving her kits, and Appledusk blaming her for their kits' deaths and taking a new mate). Others believe that Mapleshade has no excuse for her actions, and that her three victims did not deserve to be murdered and were only doing what they thought was right (Ravenwing could not lie to his Clan leader, Frecklewish thought couldn't have done anything to help the kits would be saved by [=RiverClan=], without making things worse, and Appledusk really did hold her responsible for the deaths of their children). A third contingent goes with BothSidesHaveAPoint and believes that, while the three cats shouldn't have done what they did, and Mapleshade did have the right to hate them, she crossed the MoralEventHorizon by murdering them in cold blood.

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* CompleteMonster: In a series filled with GreyAndGrayMorality, complicated villains, and morally dubious heroes, a few characters manage to destroy any sympathy one might have had for them:
** [[EvilOverlord Brokenstar]] is a [[AmbitionIsEvil ruthlessly ambitious]] warrior and the cruel [[Characters/WarriorCatsShadowClanLeadersAndDeputies leader of ShadowClan]]. Rising to power by [[{{Patricide}} killing his own father]], Brokenstar sends [[ChildSoldiers kits under six months old]] to fight full-grown warriors, making up the losses in both [[WeHaveReserves battle]] and {{training|From Hell}} by kidnapping kits from other Clans. Dissatisfied with the marshy wetlands [=ShadowClan=] calls home, Brokenstar wages a war of aggression against [=WindClan=] and forces them out of their territory. After forcing [=RiverClan=] to bow to him, Brokenstar went to war against [=ThunderClan=] to force their submission. Fleeing with some of his most loyal followers when [=ShadowClan=] turns on him, Brokenstar later gets blinded after leading his rogues in a failed attack on [=ThunderClan=], who take him in. [[UngratefulBastard To repay them for their mercy and protection]], Brokenstar conspires with Tigerstar to kill Bluestar and take over the clan. Returning as the ruler of the Dark Forest after his death, Brokenstar continues his cruel machinations against [=ThunderClan=] and eventually takes part in the Great Battle against the living and [=StarClan=]. Bloodthirsty, power-hungry, and uncaring of anyone but himself, Brokenstar serves as a terrifying reminder of what one person with a little power is capable of.
** [[AxCrazy Scourge]] is a treacherous, horrific psychopath who serves as the final villain of the series. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Once a kittypet runt named Tiny]], Scourge ran away from his owner and went rogue, becoming the leader of a gang of strays calling themselves "[=BloodClan=]". Decorating his collar with the teeth of those he killed, Scourge promoted a "[[TheSocialDarwinist survival of the fittest]]" philosophy and enforced it by leaving any cats or kits who couldn't pull their weight to die. [[DragonWithAnAgenda Allying with Tigerstar for his own ends]], Scourge betrays him and brutally takes all nine of his lives at once. Wanting to take the forest for himself, Scourge leads [=BloodClan=] into battle to wipe out all the other Clans. One of the most brutal and psychotic characters in the entire series, Scourge's [[TheNapoleon diminutive stature]] belied a murderous feline interested solely in power.

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[[EvilOverlord Brokenstar]] is a [[AmbitionIsEvil ruthlessly ambitious]] warrior and the cruel [[Characters/WarriorCatsShadowClanLeadersAndDeputies leader of ShadowClan]]. Rising to power by [[{{Patricide}} killing his own father]], Brokenstar sends [[ChildSoldiers kits under six months old]] to fight full-grown warriors, making up the losses in both [[WeHaveReserves battle]] and {{training|From Hell}} by kidnapping kits from other Clans. Dissatisfied with the marshy wetlands [=ShadowClan=] calls home, Brokenstar wages a war of aggression against [=WindClan=] and forces them out of their territory. After forcing [=RiverClan=] to bow to him, Brokenstar went to war against [=ThunderClan=] to force their submission. Fleeing with some of his most loyal followers when [=ShadowClan=] turns on him, Brokenstar later gets blinded after leading his rogues in a failed attack on [=ThunderClan=], who take him in. [[UngratefulBastard To repay them for their mercy and protection]], Brokenstar conspires with Tigerstar to kill Bluestar and take over the clan. Returning as the ruler of the Dark Forest after his death, Brokenstar continues his cruel machinations against [=ThunderClan=] and eventually takes part in the Great Battle against the living and [=StarClan=]. Bloodthirsty, power-hungry, and uncaring of anyone but himself, Brokenstar serves as a terrifying reminder of what one person with a little power is capable of. \n** [[AxCrazy Scourge]] is a treacherous, horrific psychopath who serves as the final villain of the series. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Once a kittypet runt named Tiny]], Scourge ran away from his owner and went rogue, becoming the leader of a gang of strays calling themselves "[=BloodClan=]". Decorating his collar with the teeth of those he killed, Scourge promoted a "[[TheSocialDarwinist survival of the fittest]]" philosophy and enforced it by leaving any cats or kits who couldn't pull their weight to die. [[DragonWithAnAgenda Allying with Tigerstar for his own ends]], Scourge betrays him and brutally takes all nine of his lives at once. Wanting to take the forest for himself, Scourge leads [=BloodClan=] into battle to wipe out all the other Clans. One of the most brutal and psychotic characters in the entire series, Scourge's [[TheNapoleon diminutive stature]] belied a murderous feline interested solely in power.
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** Due to the…er…rather limited gene pool in each Clan (as well as the lack of continuity), there is unfortunately a LOT of incest and inbreeding within the series; it’s a common phenomenon for a fan to go back through a character’s family tree only to find out that two characters who are mates are also cousins (all kinds, from first to distant), uncle and niece, aunt and nephew, or some sort of otherwise distant relation (Graystripe’s father was originally Patchpelt, but this was retconned when it was pointed out that Willowpelt, his mate and Graystripe’s mother, was in fact his sister). It’s never brought up as a plot point, so it’s really just one of those things that you just have to not think about too much. Hopefully with the growing acceptance of half-Clan relationships as well as kittypets and loners being allowed to join, this will become less of an issue later on.

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** Due to the…er…rather limited gene pool in each Clan (as well as the lack of continuity), there is unfortunately a LOT of incest and inbreeding within the series; it’s a common phenomenon for a fan to go back through a character’s family tree only to find out that two characters who are mates are also cousins (all kinds, from first to distant), uncle and niece, aunt and nephew, or some sort of otherwise distant relation (Graystripe’s relation, which has resulted in the Erins making a few minor retcons (for example: Graystripe’s father was originally Patchpelt, but this was retconned when it was pointed out that Willowpelt, his mate and Graystripe’s mother, was in fact his sister). It’s never brought up as a plot point, so it’s really just one of those things that you just have to not think about too much. Hopefully with the growing acceptance of half-Clan cross-Clan relationships as well as kittypets and loners being allowed to join, this will become less of an issue later on.

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* {{Squick}}: ''Spottedleaf's Heart'' is rife with this, due to Thistleclaw's grooming of Spottedpaw, ''who is younger than his own son''. There's a reason it's the most controversial book in the entire series, and to date, with all the horrifying imagery that appears in the books, it is the only page on the Wiki to have a content warning.

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** Due to the…er…rather limited gene pool in each Clan (as well as the lack of continuity), there is unfortunately a LOT of incest and inbreeding within the series; it’s a common phenomenon for a fan to go back through a character’s family tree only to find out that two characters who are mates are also cousins (all kinds, from first to distant), uncle and niece, aunt and nephew, or some sort of otherwise distant relation (Graystripe’s father was originally Patchpelt, but this was retconned when it was pointed out that Willowpelt, his mate and Graystripe’s mother, was in fact his sister). It’s never brought up as a plot point, so it’s really just one of those things that you just have to not think about too much. Hopefully with the growing acceptance of half-Clan relationships as well as kittypets and loners being allowed to join, this will become less of an issue later on.

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Jerkass Woobie should go on it’s own separate page for Warriors. Also, Ambiguous Disorder is now Diagnosed By The Audience.


* AmbiguousDisorder: There are quite a few in this series: Most notably Ashfur, who obviously has ''some'' form of a disorder, if his obsessive pursuit over Squirrelflight is one thing to go by. Throughout [[spoiler: ''The Broken Code'', his internal dialogue in ''A Light in the Mist'', his treatment of other cats, and actually analyzing his personality seems to indicate Ashfur is a high-functioning sociopath considering he enjoys spreading torment, manipulating, has little regard for others (besides Squirrelflight, obviously), and doesn't appear to feel much remorse over how actually evil he is.]] More icing on the cake is that Ashfur sees ''himself'' as the victim! It's worth noting that these things haven't been confirmed in the books nor by any other sources, but it's certainly a worthwhile thought.



* DiagnosedByTheAudience: There are quite a few in this series: Most notably Ashfur, who obviously has ''some'' form of a disorder, if his obsessive pursuit over Squirrelflight is one thing to go by. Throughout [[spoiler: ''The Broken Code'', his internal dialogue in ''A Light in the Mist'', his treatment of other cats, and actually analyzing his personality seems to indicate Ashfur has a very stereotypical form of [[UsefulNotes/PersonalityDisorders a cluster-b personality disorder]], considering he enjoys spreading torment, manipulating, has little regard for others (besides Squirrelflight, obviously), and doesn't appear to feel much remorse over how actually evil he is.]] More icing on the cake is that Ashfur sees ''himself'' as the victim. It's worth noting that these things haven't been confirmed in the books nor by any other sources, but it's certainly a worthwhile thought.



* HypeBacklash: the Dawn of the Clans Arc is widely praised as arguably the best in the series and a return to form after the disliked Omen of the Stars. Some fans have been disappointed upon reading the arc by awkward pacing, divisive treatment of female characters, and Gray Wing, widely hyped as one of the series' best and most beloved characters, being seen as boring or a Designated Hero.

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Dawn of the Clans Arc is widely praised as arguably the best in the series and a return to form after the disliked Omen of the Stars. Some fans have been disappointed upon reading the arc by awkward pacing, divisive treatment of female characters, and Gray Wing, widely hyped as one of the series' best and most beloved characters, being seen as boring or a Designated Hero.



* JerkassWoobie: Ashfur of all cats, surprisingly. While his evil actions cannot be excused by any means, an article posted by the official ''Warriors'' website points out that Ashfur did [[https://warriorcats.com/content/article/ashfur-did-starclan-make-a-mistake lose his mother at a very young age, and may explain his obsessive pursuit over Squirrelflight]] and his ControlFreak nature. His closest companions (Ferncloud and Cloudtail) got mates relatively quickly into their warriorhood and focused on their new families, while Ashfur's only other friend (Brambleclaw) became his rival for Squirrelflight's affections. Moreover, in ''The Broken Code'' Ashfur shows very clear signs of a mental disorder, likely a high-functioning sociopath, and is seemingly unable to understand that he is ''not'' the victim and he's a very bad person, let alone claiming he loves Squirrelflight yet tries to control and hurt her and her loved ones. One may reasonably deduce that Ashfur just didn't get the help he needed and it festered into what he became later in his life.

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* HypeBacklash: the Dawn of the Clans Arc is widely praised as arguably the best in the series and a return to form after the disliked Omen of the Stars. Some fans have been disappointed upon reading the arc by awkward pacing, divisive treatment of female characters, and Gray Wing, widely hyped as one of the series' best and most beloved characters, being seen as boring or a Designated Hero.
** Many fans read Tallstar's Revenge excited by the portrayal of Tallstar's relationship with Jake, one of the only "semi-canon" LGBT relationships where the authors have all but said portraying them as a couple was their intention although the publisher forbade them from making it explicit, which is the subject of much fanart and praise for its development and emotional effect. Some of these fans have ended up disappointed by the rushed nature of the relationship which leaves some thinking it didn't earn their supposed strong emotional connection by the end of the book.



** Many fans remember Firestar's final death in ''The Last Hope'' being due to lightning striking a tree and it falling on him. What actually happened is that he died due to his wounds, and at the same time a dead tree ''already on the ground nearby'' was struck by lightning. They are, perhaps, getting it mixed up with Mudclaw's death (which ''was'' due to being crushed by a lightning-struck tree) or one of Firestar's [[CatsHaveNineLives earlier lives]] (in which a tree fell on him, but no lightning was involved).

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** Many fans remember Firestar's final death in ''The Last Hope'' being due to lightning striking a tree and it falling on him. What actually happened is that he died due to his wounds, and at the same time a dead tree ''already on the ground nearby'' was struck by lightning. They are, perhaps, getting it mixed up with Mudclaw's death (which ''was'' due to being crushed by a lightning-struck tree) or one of Firestar's [[CatsHaveNineLives earlier lives]] (in which a tree fell on him, but no lightning was involved). It doesn't help that the narrator of that chapter, Dovewing, described the scene as Firestar defeating Tigerstar without seeming to be wounded at all, with him only revealed to be dead after the tree was struck by lightning, which WordOfGod has said is Dovewing being an UnreliableNarrator.


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** Most fan works depicts Firestar losing his first life by [[SlashedThroat a wound to the throat]] as is the typical cause of death for cats in battle, though he in fact died of a head wound.
** Hawkfrost killing Hollyleaf is usually depicted in [[=MAPs=] and [=PMVs=] as a CurbStompBattle, when in the books Hollyleaf actually seriously wounds Hawkfrost and sends him fleeing, then [[PostVictoryCollapse collapses from a previously unseen wound afterwards.]]
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* * AmbiguousDisorder: There are quite a few in this series: Most notably Ashfur, who obviously has ''some'' form of a disorder, if his obsessive pursuit over Squirrelflight is one thing to go by. Throughout [[spoiler: ''The Broken Code'', his internal dialogue in ''A Light in the Mist'', his treatment of other cats, and actually analyzing his personality seems to indicate Ashfur is a high-functioning sociopath considering he enjoys spreading torment, manipulating, has little regard for others (besides Squirrelflight, obviously), and doesn't appear to feel much remorse over how actually evil he is.]] More icing on the cake is that Ashfur sees ''himself'' as the victim! It's worth noting that these things haven't been confirmed in the books nor by any other sources, but it's certainly a worthwhile thought.

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* * AmbiguousDisorder: There are quite a few in this series: Most notably Ashfur, who obviously has ''some'' form of a disorder, if his obsessive pursuit over Squirrelflight is one thing to go by. Throughout [[spoiler: ''The Broken Code'', his internal dialogue in ''A Light in the Mist'', his treatment of other cats, and actually analyzing his personality seems to indicate Ashfur is a high-functioning sociopath considering he enjoys spreading torment, manipulating, has little regard for others (besides Squirrelflight, obviously), and doesn't appear to feel much remorse over how actually evil he is.]] More icing on the cake is that Ashfur sees ''himself'' as the victim! It's worth noting that these things haven't been confirmed in the books nor by any other sources, but it's certainly a worthwhile thought.
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* JerkassWoobie: Ashfur of all cats, surprisingly. While his evil actions cannot be excused by any means, an article posted by the official ''Warriors'' website points out that Ashfur did [[https://warriorcats.com/content/article/ashfur-did-starclan-make-a-mistake lose his mother at a very young age, and may explain his obsessive pursuit over Squirrelflight]] and his ControlFreak nature. His closest companions (Ferncloud and Cloudtail) got mates relatively quickly into their warriorhood and focused on their new families, while Ashfur's only other friend (Brambleclaw) became his rival for Squirrelflight's affections. Moreover, in ''The Broken Code'' Ashfur shows very clear signs of a mental disorder, likely a high-functioning sociopath, and is seemingly unable to understand that he is ''not'' the victim and he's a very bad person, let alone claiming he loves Squirrelflight yet tries to control and hurt her and her loved ones. One may reasonably deduce that Ashfur just didn't get the help he needed and it festered into what he became later in his life.
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* * AmbiguousDisorder: There are quite a few in this series: Most notably Ashfur, who obviously has ''some'' form of a disorder, if his obsessive pursuit over Squirrelflight is one thing to go by. Throughout [[spoiler: ''The Broken Code'', his internal dialogue in ''A Light in the Mist'', his treatment of other cats, and actually analyzing his personality seems to indicate Ashfur is a high-functioning sociopath considering he enjoys spreading torment, manipulating, has little regard for others (besides Squirrelflight, obviously), and doesn't appear to feel much remorse over how actually evil he is.]] More icing on the cake is that Ashfur sees ''himself'' as the victim! It's worth noting that these things haven't been confirmed in the books nor by any other sources, but it's certainly a worthwhile thought.
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keeping up to date


* ArchiveBinge: ''Warriors'' is a fun binge. There are six full arcs which each have six books and the seventh one in progress, and that's the bare-bones experience. You also have a bunch of extra-long standalone "super editions", books explaining history and characters, several series of OEL manga, and at least a dozen novellas. Your wallet will never be this thick again if you decide to read, unless you happen to have a very good library. Have fun!

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* ArchiveBinge: ''Warriors'' is a fun binge. There are six seven full arcs which each have six books and the seventh eighth one in progress, and that's the bare-bones experience. You also have a bunch of extra-long standalone "super editions", books explaining history and characters, several series of OEL manga, and at least a dozen novellas. Your wallet will never be this thick again if you decide to read, unless you happen to have a very good library. Have fun!
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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote: However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.]]

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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote: [[labelnote:Note]] However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.]][[/labelnote]]
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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote:]] However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]

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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote:]] [[labelnote: However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]]]
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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote: However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]

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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.[[labelnote: [[labelnote:]] However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]
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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison.

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** Ravenwing is meant to be seen as a medicine cat who was only doing his duty to the Clan, but his actions of immediately outing Mapleshade's secret to the Clan, causing her and her kits to be exiled, make it clear that he did not care one bit about the welfare of his Clanmate or her children. He knew that if Mapleshade's relationship with Appledusk were to be exposed, she and her kits would almost certainly be thrown out, yet he outed her anyway. He looks especially bad compared to Sagewhisker, Cinderpelt, and Goosefeather, medicine cats who knew their Clanmates were involved in forbidden relationships, yet cared enough about them to keep their secrets. Even Mudfur, another medicine cat, knew about his apprentice Mothwing's atheism, but he didn't tell anyone about that, either. Compared to these characters, Ravenwing looks like even more of a LawfulStupid [[JerkAss asshole]] by comparison. [[labelnote: However it is worth considering that Ravenwing precedes all of them. It could be argued that he was too bound to the warrior code to uphold the lie, and that the medicine cats listed above learned from his mistake.[[/labelnote]]
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** Appledusk is widely despised, particularly by [[DracoInLeatherPants Mapleshade]] fans, for being a BastardBoyfriend to her. When their kits drowned because she made them cross a flooded river, he called their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan [[DirtyCoward to get back in their good graces]], cast her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, and took a new mate, after which she completely snapped. Many fans hold him partly or even entirely responsible for Mapleshade's descent into evil, some going as far as to consider him a KarmaHoudini because he was allowed into [=StarClan=] while Mapleshade was not.

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** Appledusk is widely despised, particularly by [[DracoInLeatherPants Mapleshade]] fans, for being a BastardBoyfriend bad boyfriend to her. When their kits drowned because she made them cross a flooded river, he called their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan [[DirtyCoward to get back in their good graces]], cast her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, and took a new mate, after which she completely snapped. Many fans hold him partly or even entirely responsible for Mapleshade's descent into evil, some going as far as to consider him a KarmaHoudini because he was allowed into [=StarClan=] while Mapleshade was not.
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** Fans who hate Appledusk for [[BastardBoyfriend his treatment of Mapleshade]] have given him a number of unflattering nicknames, including "Appledick", "Appledouche", and "Applefuck".

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** Frecklewish is painted as a cat who was grieving over her brother and heartbroken to find out that her brother's kits were actually his killer's children, with Nettlebreeze even describing her as a "poor and helpless" victim of Mapleshade's cruelty.Frecklewish's anger at Mapleshade for allowing her to believe she was her brother's mate is understandable, but her viciousness towards Mapleshade's innocent kits when she finds out they aren't her brother's, spitting at them, calling them "half-Clan creatures", and shouting for them to be kicked out of the Clan, is unjustifiable. Because of that, many fans didn't feel very sorry for her when a snake spit venom in her eyes.
** And finally, Appledusk. Great [=StarClan,=] Appledusk. He's supposed to be considered an honorable and loyal [=RiverClan=] cat who died heroically by saving his mate from being killed by [[UnintentionallySympathetic Mapleshade]], but his actions make it very hard to see him in any kind of positive light. He calls their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan to get back in their good graces, casts her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, [[KickTheDog and takes Reedshine as his new mate, just to really hammer it in that they're through]]. Even worse, it's implied he was seeing her even before he broke up with Mapleshade (as Reedshine is seen to be pregnant with his kits almost immediately after). Even though he's technically not a villain, many fans despise him with a passion for what he did to Mapleshade and blame him for her downfall. Some even believe he should have been exiled from his Clan, sent to the Dark Forest, or [[DeaderThanDead killed twice.]]

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** Frecklewish is painted as a cat who was grieving over her brother and heartbroken to find out that her brother's kits were actually his killer's children, with Nettlebreeze even describing her as a "poor and helpless" victim of Mapleshade's cruelty. Frecklewish's anger at Mapleshade for allowing her to believe she was her brother's mate is understandable, but her viciousness towards Mapleshade's innocent kits when she finds out they aren't her brother's, spitting at them, calling them "half-Clan creatures", and shouting for them to be kicked out of the Clan, is unjustifiable. Because of that, many fans didn't feel very sorry for her when a snake spit venom in her eyes.
** And finally, Appledusk. Great [=StarClan,=] Appledusk. He's supposed to be considered an honorable and loyal [=RiverClan=] cat who died heroically by saving his mate from being killed by [[UnintentionallySympathetic Mapleshade]], but his actions make it very hard to see him in any kind of positive light. He After their kits drown in the river, he calls their relationship a "mistake" in front of his Clan to get back in their good graces, casts her out of the Clans to live as a rogue, [[KickTheDog and takes Reedshine as his new mate, just to really hammer it in that they're through]]. Even worse, it's implied he was seeing her even before he broke up with Mapleshade (as Reedshine is seen to be pregnant with his kits almost immediately after). Even though he's technically not a villain, many fans despise him with a passion for what he did to Mapleshade and blame him for her downfall. Some even believe he should have been exiled from his Clan, sent to the Dark Forest, or [[DeaderThanDead killed twice.]]
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** ''Squirrelflight's Hope'', which is regarded and/or remembered by most people as a poorly-written book which ruined Bramblestar and Squirrelflight's relationship by throwing their arguments out of proportion, and made them and several cats act out of character (or derailed CharacterDevelopment), just for the sake of drama.

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** Squirrelflight and Leafpool being on trial for their deception of the Three's parentage, with ''their entry into [=StarClan=] upon their deaths'' on the line. Except that they went with the deception was because ''[=StarClan=]'' was the one who told Leafpool to follow her heart when she asked for guidance on whether she should run away with Crowfeather. They were also the ones who gently informed her that she was pregnant while lying to Squirrelflight by telling her that she was barren so that she'd be more inclined to claim Leafpool's kits. In short, the sisters are being on trial for ''doing as they were told''. Is it any wonder many readers hated this in ''Squirrelflight's Hope''?



** Also Mapleshade.

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** NarmCharm: It's a series about fluffy kitties fighting grand battles and having torrid love affairs in the middle of the woods. It should be absolutely ridiculous, and yet somehow it works.
* OvershadowedByControversy: The novella ''Spottedleaf's Heart'' will forever be remembered for its complete mishandling of the sensitive subject of sexual abuse, especially towards children, and how it leveraged a traumatic and life-altering event mainly as an excuse to focus on the cruelty of the perpetrator and not the suffering of the victim.
** Downplayed, but arguably still present with ''Squirrelflight's Hope'', which is regarded and/or remembered by most people as a poorly-written book which ruined Bramblestar and Squirrelflight's relationship by throwing their arguments out of proportion, and made them and several cats act out of character (or derailed CharacterDevelopment), just for the sake of drama.

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The novella ''Spottedleaf's Heart'' will forever be remembered for its complete mishandling of the sensitive subject of sexual abuse, especially towards children, and how it leveraged a traumatic and life-altering event mainly as an excuse to focus on the cruelty of the perpetrator and not the suffering of the victim.
** Downplayed, but arguably still present with ''Squirrelflight's Hope'', which is regarded and/or remembered by most people as a poorly-written book which ruined Bramblestar and Squirrelflight's relationship by throwing their arguments out of proportion, and made them and several cats act out of character (or derailed CharacterDevelopment), just for the sake of drama.



** Moth Flight's decision to forbid all medicine cats from taking mates or having kits on the grounds that ''she'' couldn't handle it, thus ruining the lives of generations of medicine cats, made her pretty resoundingly disliked.

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** Moth Flight's decision to forbid all medicine cats from taking mates or having kits on the grounds that ''she'' couldn't handle it, it instead of coming up with the simple solution of having ''more than one medicine cat'', thus ruining the lives of generations of medicine cats, made her pretty resoundingly disliked.

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