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** When Reed uses a machine that lets him materialize anything that he thinks of in order to fight Namor, what appears is a giant version of his girlfriend's mother in her underwear.
---> '''Giant Mary Storm:''' '''Don't worry, Reed! Your subconscious mind can handle things from here!'''\\
'''Random Scientist:''' Oh my God. Is that...?\\
'''Franklin Storm:''' If Johnny sees this he'll be ruined for life.\\
'''Mary Storm:''' '''Reed! Stop thinking about be in my underwear, you dirty little snot! Think of something else or I'm coming down there to rip out your throat!'''\\
'''Reed:''' Sorry. It just ''happened''. I'm ''sorry'', Doctor Storm.
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* IKnewIt: Issue #20 ends with the Reed Richards from the mainstream universe making contact, which would lead to a crossover. But, wait a moment. That would be the first crossover between the Ultimate and the mainstream universes... and it is not in a miniseries or CrisisCrossover of its own? There's not even any publicity about it? Many fans correctly guessed that the story would be something else.
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** The "President Thor" arc introduced the Ultimate Skrulls with a fake-out about them being more benevolent than their 616 counterparts. The Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse ended up doing an inverse of this years later by giving the first live action Skrulls in ''Film/CaptainMarvel2019'' a healthy dose of AdaptationalHeroism, but also seem ready to introduce properly villainous Skrulls with ''Series/SecretInvasion''.

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** The "President Thor" arc introduced the Ultimate Skrulls with a fake-out about them being more benevolent than their 616 counterparts. The Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse ended up doing an inverse of this years later by giving the first live action Skrulls in ''Film/CaptainMarvel2019'' a healthy dose of AdaptationalHeroism, but also seem ready to introduce properly villainous Skrulls with ''Series/SecretInvasion''.''Series/SecretInvasion2023''.
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** "God War" & "Four Cubed" arcs: This version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.

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** "God War" & "Four Cubed" arcs: This version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} [[Characters/MarvelComicsThanos Thanos]] retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: A common criticism of ''ComicBook/AmongUsHideTheInhumans'' is that Johnny falls in love with Crystal, angsts about her being trapped in Attilan, and eventually reunite as long lost lovers, despite having had just a brief meeting. In this continuity Johnny also claims to love her, only to be berated by Sue because he only knew her for an hour.
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Arthur Molevik, a man working for a secretive government agency, deciding not only to continue working on a project after he'd been told not to, but to encrypt his files, the sort of thing that screams "HEY, I'M UP TO SOMETHING AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW". Surprise, he's quickly found out, and fired.
** It's the dramatic conclusion of [[StoryArc the arc]], and Reed Richards is squaring off against Nihil on the Vegas Strip! The tyrant opens his mouth to devour the hero, who stops him by picking up a nearby plasma rifle and wedging it in between his jaws!\\
'''You'd expect:''' Nihil to do literally anything except what he actually does. ''Literally'' anything else.\\
'''Instead:''' He tries to pull the gun out...[[TooDumbToLive by the trigger]]. It's... [[YourHeadASplode not pretty]].
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** The "President Thor" arc introduced the Ultimate Skrulls with a fake-out about them being more benevolent than their 616 counterparts. The Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse ended up doing an inverse of this years later by giving the first live action Skrulls in ''Film/CaptainMarvel2019'' a healthy dose of AdaptationalHeroism, but also seem ready to introduce properly villainous Skrulls with ''Series/SecretInvasion''.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: There's a reason why the Zombie Universe from the "Crossover" and "Frightful" story arcs got its own [[ComicBook/MarvelZombies comic series]].
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* AuthorSavingThrow: A common criticism of ''ComicBook/AmongUsHideTheInhumans'' is that Johnny falls in love with Crystal, angsts about her being trapped in Attilan, and eventually reunite as long lost lovers, despite having had just a brief meeting. In this continuity Johnny also claims to love her, only to be berated by Sue because he only knew her for an hour.

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* AuthorSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow: A common criticism of ''ComicBook/AmongUsHideTheInhumans'' is that Johnny falls in love with Crystal, angsts about her being trapped in Attilan, and eventually reunite as long lost lovers, despite having had just a brief meeting. In this continuity Johnny also claims to love her, only to be berated by Sue because he only knew her for an hour.
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* AuthorSavingThrow: A common criticism of ''ComicBook/AmongUsHideTheInhumans'' is that Johnny falls in love with Crystal, angsts about her being trapped in Attilan, and eventually reunite as long lost lovers, despite having had just a brief meeting. In this continuity Johnny also claims to love her, only to be berated by Sue because he only knew her for an hour.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Subverted. When Johnny Storm meets Crystal of the Inhumans and declares them both 'Lovers-for-life' ... then shrugs and admits [[TheCasanova "I just thought we might get a good thing going"]]. Sue proceeds to voice what pretty much everyone is thinking with [[LampshadeHanging "For God's sake Johnny, you've known her for an hour!"]]
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** [[ComicBook/TheMaker Reed Richards]] himself, post-''Ultimatum''. See [[Monster/MarvelComics this page]] for details, under the Marvel Universe folder.

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** [[ComicBook/TheMaker Reed Richards]] Richards himself, post-''Ultimatum''. See [[Monster/MarvelComics this page]] for details, under the Marvel Universe folder.

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** This version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.

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** "God War" & "Four Cubed" arcs: This version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.

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** [[Monster/MarvelComics Reed Richards]] himself, post-''Ultimatum''. See that page for details, under the Marvel Universe folder.

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** [[Monster/MarvelComics [[ComicBook/TheMaker Reed Richards]] himself, post-''Ultimatum''. See that page [[Monster/MarvelComics this page]] for details, under the Marvel Universe folder.



* IKnewIt: Issue #20 ends with the Reed Richards from the mainstream universe making contact, which would lead to a crossover. But, wait a moment. That would be the first crossover between the Ultimate and the mainstream universes... and it is not in a miniseries or CrisisCrossover of its own? There's not even any publicity about it? Many fans correctly guessed that the story would be something else.
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** [[Monster/MarvelComics Reed Richards]] himself, post-''Ultimatum''. See that page for details, under the Ultimate Universe folder.

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** [[Monster/MarvelComics Reed Richards]] himself, post-''Ultimatum''. See that page for details, under the Ultimate Marvel Universe folder.
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** [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel Reed Richards]] himself, post-''Ultimatum''.

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** [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel [[Monster/MarvelComics Reed Richards]] himself, post-''Ultimatum''.post-''Ultimatum''. See that page for details, under the Ultimate Universe folder.
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** Given this version was the (loose) basis for ''ComicBook/FantasticFour2015'', the relationship between Ben and Sue post-''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' ended up mirrored by Creator/JamieBell and Creator/KateMara dating and eventually getting married.

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** Given this version was the (loose) basis for ''ComicBook/FantasticFour2015'', ''Film/FantasticFour2015'', the relationship between Ben and Sue post-''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' ended up mirrored by Creator/JamieBell and Creator/KateMara dating and eventually getting married.

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* HilariousInHindsight: [[http://rockofeternity.tumblr.com/image/99433909546 This]] {{Main/Superdickery}}-style cover given [[spoiler: Reed becoming Doctor Doom in the Ultimate Universe]].

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[[http://rockofeternity.tumblr.com/image/99433909546 This]] {{Main/Superdickery}}-style cover given [[spoiler: Reed becoming Doctor Doom in the Ultimate Universe]]. Universe]].
** Given this version was the (loose) basis for ''ComicBook/FantasticFour2015'', the relationship between Ben and Sue post-''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' ended up mirrored by Creator/JamieBell and Creator/KateMara dating and eventually getting married.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Ultimatum: Requiem", Reed tells Ben that he's calculated that the ''only'' way to prevent a future of "Death. Destruction. Genocide. Blood. All on my hands." was to [[ShootTheDog kill Doctor Doom]] before he could perpetrate it, but despite knowing this he simply can't bring himself to kill a man in cold blood, something Ben tells him isn't something he should be ashamed of, before going off to do it himself. [[spoiler:Considering that when Reed commits his FaceHeelTurn he effectively becomes the new Doctor Doom and ''directly'' commits atrocities as The Maker ''far'' in excess of whatever he saw Doom himself committing...]]

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* {{Narm}}: Even for Brian Bendis and / or Mark Millar, making Mole Man a man covered in moles called Arthur ''Molevik'', rather than the regular Mole Man just being a short, blind man, is a ludicrous step too far.

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Even for Brian Bendis and / or Mark Millar, making Mole Man a man covered in moles called Arthur ''Molevik'', rather than the regular Mole Man just being a short, blind man, is a ludicrous step too far.far.
** You know you're in for some awkward and silly artwork once you see that Greg Land is on art duties.
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** [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel Reed Richards]] himself.

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** [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel Reed Richards]] himself.himself, post-''Ultimatum''.
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** [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel Reed]] himselfReed Richards]] himself.
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** This version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.

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** This version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.

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* CompleteMonster: Besides [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel Reed]] himself, this version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.

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* CompleteMonster: Besides [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel Reed]] himself, this CompleteMonster:
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version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with an iron fist. Having come into contact with the Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out all he sees until he finds Reed and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his slave, trapped in a deathless hell while death itself exists only for the tyrannical Thanos.Thanos.
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* CompleteMonster: Reed "Mr. Fantastic" Richards, also known as the Maker, is a [[AdaptationalVillainy sociopathic, vindictive megalomaniac]] with a pathological desire to "save" humanity, regardless of how depraved or insane the methods might be. Though starting out as a seemingly-heroic figure, Reed [[FaceHeelTurn slowly gives into his true personality]] of a homicidal creep [[AGodAmI seeking ultimate rule over reality]]. Kicking his villainy off by vaporizing his parents and child sisters, Reed later recuperates from initiating a failed alien invasion of Earth by creating the City and the Children of Tomorrow. Using his new "evolved" humanity as his personal soldiers and puppets while claiming benevolence, Reed has them begin absorbing entire cities before annihilating all of Washington, D.C. Slaughtering the entirety of Asgard and attempting the same on Tian, Reed eventually teams up with Kang to rewrite reality and take over time and space, all while planning to turn on Kang and change reality to his own wishes. After revealing his seeming redemption was faked, Reed destroys over sixty alternate Earths before trying once more to rewrite reality [[InTheirOwnImage in his image]], and now haunts the Prime Marvel Universe with schemes of zombifying thousands of people. With a penchant for [[PlayingWithSyringes vivisection and torturous experimentation]], Reed constantly boasts claims of good intentions, when, in reality, he is [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist nothing but a petty child seeking adoration and power over all life]].

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* CompleteMonster: Reed "Mr. Fantastic" Richards, also known as Besides [[YMMV/UltimateMarvel Reed]] himself, this version of ComicBook/{{Thanos}} retains the Maker, is a [[OmnicidalManiac goals]] of his 616 counterpart, but [[AdaptationalVillainy sociopathic, vindictive megalomaniac]] none of the redeeming qualities]]. Ruler of the Endless Resurgence, he is a horrific tyrant--as well as a horrendously AbusiveParent--who runs his empire with a pathological desire to "save" humanity, regardless of how depraved or insane an iron fist. Having come into contact with the methods might be. Though starting Cosmic Cube, or Tesseract, long long ago, Thanos tested it by killing countless innocents or leaving them literally frozen but eternally alive and aware. Thanos also allows himself to experience death at times, using the souls of many innocents to revive himself. Heading to Earth, Thanos intends on wiping out as a seemingly-heroic figure, all he sees until he finds Reed [[FaceHeelTurn slowly gives into his true personality]] of a homicidal creep [[AGodAmI seeking and when he has the Tesseract and ultimate rule over reality]]. Kicking power, he plots on a universal-scale MindRape until every living thing is his villainy off by vaporizing his parents and child sisters, Reed later recuperates from initiating slave, trapped in a failed alien invasion of Earth by creating the City and the Children of Tomorrow. Using his new "evolved" humanity as his personal soldiers and puppets deathless hell while claiming benevolence, Reed has them begin absorbing entire cities before annihilating all of Washington, D.C. Slaughtering death itself exists only for the entirety of Asgard and attempting the same on Tian, Reed eventually teams up with Kang to rewrite reality and take over time and space, all while planning to turn on Kang and change reality to his own wishes. After revealing his seeming redemption was faked, Reed destroys over sixty alternate Earths before trying once more to rewrite reality [[InTheirOwnImage in his image]], and now haunts the Prime Marvel Universe with schemes of zombifying thousands of people. With a penchant for [[PlayingWithSyringes vivisection and torturous experimentation]], Reed constantly boasts claims of good intentions, when, in reality, he is [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist nothing but a petty child seeking adoration and power over all life]].tyrannical Thanos.
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* CompleteMonster: Reed "Mr. Fantastic" Richards, also known as the Maker, is a [[AdaptationalVillainy sociopathic, vindictive megalomaniac]] with a pathological desire to "save" humanity, regardless of how depraved or insane the methods might be. Though starting out as a seemingly-heroic figure, Reed [[FaceHeelTurn slowly gives into his true personality]] of a homicidal creep [[AGodAmI seeking ultimate rule over reality]]. Kicking his villainy off by vaporizing his parents and child sisters, Reed later recuperates from initiating a failed alien invasion of Earth by creating the City and the Children of Tomorrow. Using his new "evolved" humanity as his personal soldiers and puppets while claiming benevolence, Reed has them begin absorbing entire cities before annihilating all of Washington, D.C. Slaughtering the entirety of Asgard and attempting the same on Tian, Reed eventually teams up with Kang to rewrite reality and take over time and space, all while planning to turn on Kang and change reality to his own wishes. After revealing his seeming redemption was faked, Reed destroys over sixty alternate Earths before trying once more to rewrite reality [[InTheirOwnImage in his image]], and now haunts the Prime Marvel Universe with schemes of zombifying thousands of people. With a penchant for [[PlayingWithSyringes vivisection and torturous experimentation]], Reed constantly boasts claims of good intentions, when, in reality, he is [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist nothing but a petty child seeking adoration and power over all life]].
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Subverted. When Johnny Storm meets Crystal of the Inhumans and declares them both 'Lovers-for-life' ... then shrugs and admits [[TheCasanova "I just thought we might get a good thing going"]]. Sue proceeds to voice what pretty much everyone is thinking with [[GenreSavvy "For God's sake Johnny, you've known her for an hour!"]]

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Subverted. When Johnny Storm meets Crystal of the Inhumans and declares them both 'Lovers-for-life' ... then shrugs and admits [[TheCasanova "I just thought we might get a good thing going"]]. Sue proceeds to voice what pretty much everyone is thinking with [[GenreSavvy [[LampshadeHanging "For God's sake Johnny, you've known her for an hour!"]]
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen
** When he was first announced for the title, and still ignoring that he would have a short run, Millar announced that he would use Dr. Doom and Galactus in the first year. Only Doom appeared. Galactus would be used in ''ComicBook/UltimateGalactusTrilogy'', by Warren Ellis.
** Bendis had an idea for a story, but the editors rejected it: it was better suited for ComicBook/TheAvengers. So he was allowed to write it for the Avengers instead. It was ''ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled''.
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** When he was first announced for the title, and still ignoring that he would have a short run, Millar announced that he would use Dr. Doom and Galactus in the first year. Only Doom appeared. Galactus would be used in ''ComicBook/TheUltimateGalactusTrilogy'', by Warren Ellis.

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** When he was first announced for the title, and still ignoring that he would have a short run, Millar announced that he would use Dr. Doom and Galactus in the first year. Only Doom appeared. Galactus would be used in ''ComicBook/TheUltimateGalactusTrilogy'', ''ComicBook/UltimateGalactusTrilogy'', by Warren Ellis.

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** When he was first announced for the title, and still ignoring that he would have a short run, Millar announced that he would use
Dr. Doom and Galactus in the first year. Only Doom appeared. Galactus would be used in ''ComicBook/TheUltimateGalactusTrilogy'', by Warren Ellis.

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** When he was first announced for the title, and still ignoring that he would have a short run, Millar announced that he would use
use Dr. Doom and Galactus in the first year. Only Doom appeared. Galactus would be used in ''ComicBook/TheUltimateGalactusTrilogy'', by Warren Ellis.

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