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* EarWorm: Both [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kHYgjDj1Y the opening]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqopqM64ts closing]] themes.

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* RonTheDeathEater: The Transmasters UK fanfic group portrayed the squeaky-clean IdealHero Star Saber as a brutal villain, which was incorporated into his IDW personality because [[RunningTheAsylum the writer was a part of that group]].



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The fact that the Brainmasters are all smaller robots controlling larger bodies like the Headmasters and Godmasters of the previous two series is never used in the story, only being featured in StockFootage sequences. Having the characters get split up from the larger bodies and having to fight in their smaller forms or simply having Star Saber spend time with Jan in his Brain of Courage form to make himself more relatable to his surrogate son are intriguing possibilities, but they never happened.



* UnintentionalTimePeriodPiece: Jan using the computer to complete his homework is depicted in the show as a form of cheating. In todays world, this type of attitude would be seen as incredibly outdated, as most work in school is done on the computer.

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* UnintentionalTimePeriodPiece: ** Jan using the computer to complete his homework is depicted in the show as a form of cheating. In todays world, this type of attitude would be seen as incredibly outdated, as most work in school is done on the computer.

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* {{Fanon}}: For many years, fans believed that Greatshot is meant to be an upgraded Sixshot due to them sharing the same voice actor and having similar abilities. Years later, the ''Transformers Legends'' manga [[AscendedFanon made this canon]].



** The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminology breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAnglesOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.

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** The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminology breastplate]]. And when they use their abilities, they shout "breast attack". English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAnglesOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.
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** One episode has the Decepticons melting ice caps in the Arctic to create energy and this is merely brushed off as an anomaly with no real consequences. This is a lot more harsher to watch in the contemporary era, where global warming is a very real concern.

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** One episode has the Decepticons melting ice caps in the Arctic to create energy and this the ensuing water level rising is merely brushed off treated as an anomaly with no real consequences. This is a lot more harsher to watch in thruway consequence, not really dwelled upon. With the contemporary era, where threat of global warming is warming, this situation being treated as a very real concern.simple consequence that will fade simply being played for comedy becomes incredibly hard to look at.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Aside from Star Saber, Kakuryu and Hellbat seem to be the most popular characters. The former even received a toy in the United EX line, twenty years later!

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Aside from Star Saber, Kakuryu and Hellbat seem to be the most popular characters. The former even received a toy in the United EX line, twenty years later!later!
** Greatshot was quite well liked by the fandom, due to his resemblance to Sixshot, being one of the few characters not named Star Saber who can go toe to toe against all of the Breastforce singlehanded, and his voice. The fact he was revealed to be Sixshot certainly contributes to it.


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** Several of the episodes involving Greatshot can become a bit more harder to watch after learning he is a reformatted Sixshot. His familiarity with Guyhawk and the prison are due to the fact he is a former Decepticon and that he broke Star Saber out of that prison. Similarly, his hesitation to accept the role of commander of God Ginrai's army is due to the fact the Six Clan went after him because he got involved in the war in the first place.

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* HarsherInHindsight: One episode has the Decepticons melting ice caps in the Arctic to create energy and this is merely brushed off as an anomaly with no real consequences. This is a lot more harsher to watch in the contemporary era, where global warming is a very real concern.

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One episode has the Decepticons melting ice caps in the Arctic to create energy and this is merely brushed off as an anomaly with no real consequences. This is a lot more harsher to watch in the contemporary era, where global warming is a very real concern.concern.
** When God Ginrai dies, Perceptor is among the doctors who are trying to save him, but soon make it clear the wounds is fatal. In Japan, The Transformers: The Movie hadn't aired yet, (which is why Wheeljack is alive here, but for viewers who had seen the movie, it makes the scene where Perceptor tells the Autobots Optimus is doomed much harder, and the real kicker is that God Ginrai's body was originally designed to resurrect Optimus.
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* HarsherInHindsight: One episode has the Decepticons melting ice caps in the Arctic to create energy and this is merely brushed off as an anomaly with no real consequences. This is a lot more harsher to watch in the contemporary era, where global warming is a very real concern.
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** When Holi is revealed to have a girlfriend, the Micromasters make comments declaring that she is cute and has a great body. While the scene is light hearted and clearly played for comedy, such comments about women would not make it into a kid's show in Japan nowadays, and it wouldn't have gotten into a television show in America in the 80's, let alone today.
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*** The children mention being forced to clean the school. In Japan, this is a part of life, but in other nations, unless it was a mess that happened by accident, students cannot be forced to aid in school maintenance.

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*** The children mention being forced to clean the school. In Japan, this is a part of life, but in other nations, unless it was a mess that happened by accident, students cannot be forced to aid in school maintenance.maintenance.
* UnintentionalTimePeriodPiece: Jan using the computer to complete his homework is depicted in the show as a form of cheating. In todays world, this type of attitude would be seen as incredibly outdated, as most work in school is done on the computer.
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** Jan's public school is run by the Catholic Church, a religious organization in the middle of Europe. This would not be much of a deal in Japan, but in Europe and especially in America, organized religion is not allowed to educate children in a public school.

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** Jan's public school is run by the Catholic Church, a religious organization in the middle of Europe. This would not be much of a deal in Japan, but in Europe and especially in America, organized religion is not allowed to educate children in a public school.school.
*** The children mention being forced to clean the school. In Japan, this is a part of life, but in other nations, unless it was a mess that happened by accident, students cannot be forced to aid in school maintenance.

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* ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.

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Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.countries.
** Jan's public school is run by the Catholic Church, a religious organization in the middle of Europe. This would not be much of a deal in Japan, but in Europe and especially in America, organized religion is not allowed to educate children in a public school.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This is more of the [[AdaptationalVillainy change of Star Saber]] in the IDW comics continuity. In the anime, he's a noble hero facing against Deathsaurus and his men and a PapaWolf involving his adopted son Jan. In the IDW comics continuity, he's a religious extremist who crushes enemies in the name of Primus (the writer [[RunningTheAsylum having used Star Saber as a villain while writing as part of a Transformers fanfiction group]]). Unlike Ginrai, whose appearance in Western comics also had his personality changed (being CrazyPrepared and ProperlyParanoid, but still heroic), Star Saber's IDW characterization is questioned by fans of the anime and toys as it's felt his character is RuinedForever.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This is more of the [[AdaptationalVillainy change of Star Saber]] in the IDW comics continuity. In the anime, he's a noble hero facing against Deathsaurus and his men and a PapaWolf involving his adopted son Jan. In the IDW comics continuity, he's a religious extremist who crushes enemies in the name of Primus (the writer [[RunningTheAsylum having used Star Saber as a villain while writing as part of a Transformers fanfiction group]]). Unlike Ginrai, whose appearance in Western comics also had his personality changed (being CrazyPrepared and ProperlyParanoid, but still heroic), Star Saber's IDW characterization is questioned by fans of the anime and toys as it's felt his character is RuinedForever.toys.

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* AssPull: The ''Victory'' manga ends with the Autobots winning the war and the Decepticons begging them not to destroy their base, which turns out to be full of Decepticon civilians, including [[{{Moe}} Leozack's sister and Deathsaurus's wife]]. See? Everyone is good! [[BrokenAesop Even if you're a raging asshole who oppresses others and has no problem committing crimes and kill others...]] Nevermind the fact that it's usually established that the Decepticons are a rogue faction of criminals who ''want'' to do bad things and a number are incredibly apathetic to their own members.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'' interpretation of Lyzack, solely by looking at an [[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Lyzack_(Animated) image]] of her, clearly removes the housewife and/or DamselInDistress aspect of her and seems to be more of an obnoxious little sister and/or LittleMissBadass.



* {{Narm}}: The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminology breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAnglesOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.
* SpiritualSuccessor: The Anime/BraveSeries takes a lot of cues (and even some mecha designs!) from Transformers Victory.

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The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminology breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAnglesOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.
** The ending of the ''Victory'' manga. It turns out that the Decepticons aren't as bad as everyone says they are; [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes they have civilians]], and cute ones at that! Therefore, the main villains should be spared. The Decepticons have been long established to be an army of criminals, so this comes off as an excuse to show to younger viewers that anyone with at least a semblance of a redeeming factor should be spared in spite of the rest of their actions. Even if the Decepticons were a more honorable cause, the presentation of the civilians as being cute (particularly Lyzack and Esmeral, who are ''housewives'') comes off as over the top and befitting of anime targeted towards younger children (justifiably so, but this conflicts with the usual tone of ''Transformers'' and the tone specific to the ''Victory'' anime already).
* ShockingSwerve: The ''Victory'' manga reveals that the Decepticons are just like the Autobots -- they have innocent civilians to keep safe from the war.
* SpiritualSuccessor: The Anime/BraveSeries takes a lot of cues (and even some mecha designs!) from Transformers Victory.''Transformers Victory''.
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* {{Narm}}: The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminology breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAngelsOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.

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* {{Narm}}: The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminology breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAngelsOfSatin [[RougeAnglesOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.
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* {{Narm}}: The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminlogy breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAngelsOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.

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* {{Narm}}: The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminlogy [[InsistentTerminology breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAngelsOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.
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* {{Narm}}: The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, [[InsistentTerminlogy breastplate]]. English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to [[RougeAngelsOfSatin Brestforce]], and the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.

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* HypeBacklash: Went through this to a degree. In the early days of the online fandom, when the series wasn't widely available, ''Victory'' was widely claimed or assumed (mostly by people who had never properly seen it) to be the darkest and most mature ''Transformers'' story, and something of a holy grail that was too good for Western shores. When the series became more widely available, it was found that ''Victory'' was just as kiddie as any ''Transformers'' cartoon, and in some ways it was one of the ''more'' childish ones (the ending theme is about whether Star Saber wet the bed when he was a kid). It still has a strong fanbase, though, which appreciates what it actually was rather than what people assumed it was.



* ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: It's generally regarded as the best of the ''G1'' anime series; it's much better-paced than either ''Headmasters'' or ''Masterforce'', its animation is some of the best in the franchise, and its plot is a fun romp rather than a slog or a vague mess.



** In his appearance in VideoGame/TransformersEarthWars, he's back to his heroic self.

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** In his appearance in VideoGame/TransformersEarthWars, he's back to his heroic self.self.
* ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This is more of the [[AdaptationalVillainy change of Star Saber]] in the Hasbro continuity. In the anime, he's a noble hero facing against Deathsaurus and his men and a PapaWolf involving his adopted son Jan. In the comics continuity, he's a religious extremest who crushes enemies in the name of Primus. Unlike Ginrai, who had a less-extremes (being CrazyPrepared and ProperlyParanoid), Star Saber's characterization is questioned by fans of the anime and toys as it's felt his character is RuinedForever.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This is more of the [[AdaptationalVillainy change of Star Saber]] in the Hasbro IDW comics continuity. In the anime, he's a noble hero facing against Deathsaurus and his men and a PapaWolf involving his adopted son Jan. In the IDW comics continuity, he's a religious extremest extremist who crushes enemies in the name of Primus. Primus (the writer [[RunningTheAsylum having used Star Saber as a villain while writing as part of a Transformers fanfiction group]]). Unlike Ginrai, who whose appearance in Western comics also had a less-extremes his personality changed (being CrazyPrepared and ProperlyParanoid), ProperlyParanoid, but still heroic), Star Saber's IDW characterization is questioned by fans of the anime and toys as it's felt his character is RuinedForever.RuinedForever.
** The fact that when Star Saber's Masterpiece toy was released in Australia, his bio was based on the insane IDW version probably didn't help.
** In his appearance in VideoGame/TransformersEarthWars, he's back to his heroic self.
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* TheScrappy: Several fans dislike Jan as a very annoying kid, in contrast to the previous series' Shuta. While Shuta does contribute by being a Headmaster Jr., Jan is often seen as TheLoad by others.
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* ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.

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* ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.countries.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This is more of the [[AdaptationalVillainy change of Star Saber]] in the Hasbro continuity. In the anime, he's a noble hero facing against Deathsaurus and his men and a PapaWolf involving his adopted son Jan. In the comics continuity, he's a religious extremest who crushes enemies in the name of Primus. Unlike Ginrai, who had a less-extremes (being CrazyPrepared and ProperlyParanoid), Star Saber's characterization is questioned by fans of the anime and toys as it's felt his character is RuinedForever.
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* GodModeSue: In spite of a large cast of characters, including several combiners and the Sky Lynx-like Galaxy Shuttle, the series goes to great pains to remind the viewer that only Star Saber can save the day. And does.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: The BraveSeries takes a lot of cues (and even some mecha designs!) from Transformers Victory.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: The BraveSeries Anime/BraveSeries takes a lot of cues (and even some mecha designs!) from Transformers Victory.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: The BraveSaga takes a lot of cues (and even some mecha designs!) from Transformers Victory.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: The BraveSaga BraveSeries takes a lot of cues (and even some mecha designs!) from Transformers Victory.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Aside from Star Saber, Kakuryu and Hellbat seem to be the most popular characters. The former even received a toy in the United EX line, twenty years later!
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* ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriatee in a kids' show in America and several other countries.

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* ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriatee inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.
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* EarWorm - both [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kHYgjDj1Y the opening]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqopqM64ts closing]] themes.

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* EarWorm - both EarWorm: Both [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kHYgjDj1Y the opening]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqopqM64ts closing]] themes.



* ValuesDissonance - Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriatee in a kids' show in America and several other countries.

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* ValuesDissonance - ValuesDissonance: Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriatee in a kids' show in America and several other countries.
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* ValuesDissonance - Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriatee in a kids' show in America and several other countries.
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* EarWorm - both [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kHYgjDj1Y the opening]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqopqM64ts closing]] themes.

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* EarWorm - both [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kHYgjDj1Y the opening]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqopqM64ts closing]] themes.themes.
* GodModeSue: In spite of a large cast of characters, including several combiners and the Sky Lynx-like Galaxy Shuttle, the series goes to great pains to remind the viewer that only Star Saber can save the day. And does.
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* EarWorm - both [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kHYgjDj1Y the opening]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqopqM64ts closing]] themes.
* {{Narm}} - The main Decepticons make up an elite group of fighters called...the ''Breast''force.

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* EarWorm - both [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kHYgjDj1Y the opening]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqopqM64ts closing]] themes.
* {{Narm}} - The main Decepticons make up an elite group of fighters called...the ''Breast''force.
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