History YMMV / TheFrontier

** The Northern Legion has a female slavemaster, despite the fact that New Vegas makes it clear that Caesar's Legion is a misogynistic faction and would never allow women in their military ranks [[note]] Ceasar only makes an exception for a female Courier since she shows significant promise in helping him take over the Mojave Desert and even then she is subject to misogynistic remarks by members of the Legion and will be denied some benefits regardless of reputation.[[/note]]. The game tries to HandWave it by claiming that the Northern Legion has more "liberal views" towards mass education due to not being under direct Caesar's influence, but it's still jarring and a weird addition.

** The Northern Legion has a female slavemaster, despite the fact that New Vegas makes it clear that Caesar's Legion is a misogynistic faction and would never allow women in their military ranks [[note]] Ceasar only makes an exception for a female Courier since she shows significant promise in helping him take over the Mojave Desert and even then she is subject to misogynistic remarks by members of the Legion and will be denied some benefits regardless of reputation.[[/note]]. The game tries to HandWave it by claiming that the Northern Legion has more "liberal views" towards mass education due to not being under direct Caesar's influence, but it's still jarring and weird addition.

** The Crusaders are considered this by some, having some of the mod's most poorly-written dialogue and the companion [[MadeASlave America]], who features some of the mod's most uncomfortable sex-related writings (with her basically being designed as an underage SexSlave in all but name). The worst part is that if you hurt America in any way besides enslavement, the Crusaders will automatically be hostile to you, with [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill disastrously lethal consequences if done near their headquarters]]. Let's Player "[=BraveSirLoin=]" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FW7KAFZy3c?t=1330 disliked them so much]] that he killed their leaders and left.

** Regardless of the ending, the Courier's adventure will be described as "magnum opus" in spite of the story being seen as the weakest part of the game and treated as fanfiction than anything.

* SalvagedStory: After some heavy backlash from players regarding some questionable content in the mod[[note]]Elaborated in other entries[[/note]], said content was removed in a series of post-launch patches. There was also talk of redoing the NCR Exiles campaign from scratch, but it has been delayed indefinitely due to the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine.

* SoBadItsGood: There quite a few players who argue that the much criticized NCR storyline is quite justifiably seen a complete and utter trainwreck, but that it is also a spectacular and very entertaining trainwreck, due to the frequency with it veers into downright absurd territory and its overall tone-deafness in regards to the ''Fallout'' source material, yet always keeps taking itself unwaveringly serious.

* SoBadItsGood: There some players who argue that the much criticized NCR storyline is quite justifiably seen a complete and utter trainwreck, but that it is also a spectacular and very entertaining trainwreck, due to the frequency with it veers into downright absurd territory and its overall tone-deafness in regards to the ''Fallout'' source material, yet always keeps taking itself unwaveringly serious.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: As [[spoiler:Rancor executes Blackthorne]], he unfavorably compares him to the war-hungry politicians of the core NCR. The guy saying this is [[spoiler:a two-faced traitor backstabbing every faction in the Frontier for his own goals,]] but considering his victim's actions throughout the campaign, it's hard to disagree with him.

** Characters in the Frontier have a tendency to address the player character as 'the Courier.' [[InsistentTerminology All the time]]. Which in itself is somewhat jarring when only a handful of characters in the base game refer to the player character by that title (if at all), but it becomes a little silly when you realise that all these characters are basically saying "mailman" in a tone of utter reverence. It gets even more ridiculous when you see that ''multiple different characters'' also refer to you as Courier ''Six'', a name that literally only has relevance to Ulysses and there's no reason for multiple people to call you by that name.

** Characters in the Frontier have a tendency to address the player character as 'the Courier.' [[InsistentTerminology All the time]]. Which in itself is somewhat jarring when only a handful of characters in the base game refer to the player character by that title (if at all), but it becomes a little silly when you realise that all these characters are basically saying "mailman" in a tone of utter reverence.

** Later in the NCR questline, you meet up with The Crusaders and catch up with the nuke you were looking for just as it begins to launch. The Crusaders' idea of destroying it is to ''shoot at it''. And the squad you're with do so while [[TooDumbToLive standing right next to it]]. It ends about as well as you'd expect, with all of them being burnt alive by the nuke's exhaust as it launches into the atmosphere.

* DesignatedVillain: While anyone who has played the base game will agree that [[GeneralFailure General Oliver]] isn't a nice person by any stretch of the imagination, him refusing to release the conscripts when ''a major war'' has just started and the NCR is barely holding onto Hoover Dam following the Legion's surprise attack is quite understandable. The fact that the Exiles defend Blackthorne by saying he led them to the Frontier to keep them safe and he had no idea the Legion would show up and attack them feels like a DoubleStandard, considering the fact that Oliver also had no idea the Legion would attack them.

* NightmareRetardant: [[spoiler:The prolonged hallucination]] during the NCR's campaign is meant to be a scary experience, but it overstays its welcome, [[ArcFatigue lasting upwards of two hours]], and a lot of it is blaming the player for people dying all around them, even though most of these deaths [[BlamedForBeingRailroaded happened due to circumstances beyond their control]].

*** General Blackthorne can be seen as this for the same reasons as the NCR Exiles listed above, in addition to also coming off as a massive hypocrite due to claiming that he cares for his men and this being his motive for leaving the NCR, yet is shown ordering the execution of his wounded soldiers in a flashback, wastes several of their lives just to rescue you, and having any of his men who try to leave his faction executed. As a result, [[spoiler:not many players feel bad when he's killed in most of the endings, be it at your hands or Rancor's]].

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Despite being a mod set in an AlternateHistory, the writer sees fit to place modern references such as one of the infamous lines from Kanye West and Lil' Pump's "I Love It" during one of the better-not-mentioned encounters with a deathclaw. While it was meant to be a Wild Wasteland event, bug caused it to trigger regardless if you had the trait or not.

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Despite being a mod set in an AlternateHistory, the writer sees fit to place modern references such as one of the infamous lines from Kanye West and Lil' Pump's "I Love It" during one of the better-not-mentioned encounters with a deathclaw. Of course, this was [[InvokedTrope deliberate]], seeing as how the encounter was meant to be a Wild Wasteland event, but a bug caused it to trigger regardless if you had the trait or not.

** Later in the NCR questline, you meet up with The Crusaders and catch up with the nuke you were looking for just as it begins to launch. The Crusaders' idea of destroying it is to ''shoot at it''. And the squad you're with do so while [[TooDumbToLive standing right next to it]]. It ends [[KillItWithFire about as well as you'd expect.]]

* DesignatedHero: General Blackthorne is made out to be a noble and compassionate military leader, while General Lee Oliver is described as a warmonger. However, for such a "compassionate" man who "cares about his men", Blackthorne is the first to advocate for euthanising the injured soldiers outside of Helios rather than attempting to render any medical aid, will execute any soldier who tries to leave the Frontier, and sends an entire squad to rescue one captive soldier then claims he didn't care a whole lot for the soldiers in question when many of them ended up being killed in the process of that rescue mission. So he's not quite as saintly as the story wants to make him look.

** [[spoiler:In the Archimedes space station]], one of the monsters in the cutscene rushes to attack you... but due to the unnecessary slow motion effects and problems with the model, it looks more like it's ''waddling'' towards you.

** The fact that ARCHIMEDES II literally has [[NeonSignHideout a neon sign with its name written on it]] placed right above its hangar bay.

** Characters in the Frontier have a tendency to address the player character as 'Courier.' [[InsistentTerminology All the time]]. Which in itself is somewhat jarring when only a handful of characters in the base game refer to the player character by that title (if at all), but it becomes a little silly when you realise that all these characters are basically saying "mailman" in a tone of utter reverence.

*** And prior to the battle itself, the NCR troopers are sitting around and exchanging the most cliche 'I got a girl back home' dialogue imaginable. Sure enough, you have to euthanise that same trooper, which the game plays up as a major tragedy even though he only has about a minute of presence in the story.

** The Northern Legion has a female slavemaster, despite the fact that New Vegas makes it clear that Caesar's Legion is a misogynistic faction and would never allow women in their military ranks [[note]] Ceasar only makes an exception for a female Courier since she shows significant promise in helping him take over the Mojave Desert and even then she is subject to misogynistic remarks by members of the Legion. [[/note]]. The game tries to HandWave it by claiming that the Northern Legion has more "liberal views" towards mass education due to not being under direct Caesar's influence, but it's still jarring and weird addition.

** Regardless of the ending, the Courier's adventure will be described as "magnum opus" in spite of the story being seen as the weakest part of the game.

** At one point, the player will have a weighty dialogue with an NCR trooper who was captured by the Legion and used as a SexSlave. ''One of the player's response options is quoting a VideoGame/MetalGear meme verbatim.''

** The Northern Legion has a female slavemaster, despite the fact that New Vegas makes it clear that Caesar's Legion is a misogynistic faction and would never allow women in their military ranks [[note]] Caeser only makes an exception for a female Courier since she shows significant promise in helping him take over the Mojave Desert and even then she is subject to misogynistic remarks by members of the Legion. [[/note]]. The game tries to HandWave it by claiming that the Northern Legion has more "liberal views" towards mass education due to not being under direct Caesar's influence, but it's still jarring and weird addition.

* PlayTheGameSkipTheStory: It's generally agreed that the mod is an impressive technical achievement, seamlessly adding features like vehicles and cutscenes to an outdated engine never meant to support them, and the new worldspace adds plenty to explore with interesting side activities. The main story, though, [[CanonDefilement could only be charitably called amateur fanfic-tier]] that, at most generous, can be enjoyed in a SoBadItsGood purely ironic]] way. And that's not even touching the now-infamous {{Squick}}y sidequests.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: As [[spoiler:Rancor executes Blackthorne]], he unfavorably compares him to the war-hungry politicians of the core NCR. Considering his actions throughout the campaign, it's hard to disagree.

** The Northern Legion has a female slavemaster, despite the fact that New Vegas makes it clear that Caesar's Legion is a misogynistic faction and would never allow women in their military ranks. The game tries to HandWave it by claiming that the Northern Legion has more "liberal views" towards mass education due to not being under direct Caesar's influence, but it's still jarring and weird addition.