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* NarmCharm: Worf shouting "You must think me a fool to make your lies so transparent" is a bit of an awkwardly-written line, but Michael Dorn sells it pretty well.
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* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, like a great deal of the rest of the show it particularly struck a chord with fans in the new millennium, particularly in the wake of the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelDorn had two stipulations for joining the show: no more [[TheWorfEffect using him to prove the villains threat]] and wanted to be clearly different from other Klingons. Worf beating up Martoks' son to get his attention, plus ordering prune juice at Quarks, was to set the new tone for Worf on [=DS9=].
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelDorn had two stipulations for joining the show: no more [[TheWorfEffect using him to prove the villains threat]] and wanted to be clearly different from other Klingons. Worf beating up Martoks' son to get his attention, plus ordering prune juice at Quarks, was to set the new tone for Worf on [=DS9=].
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* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, like a great deal of the rest of the show it particularly struck a chord with fans in the new millennium, particularly in the wake of the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelDorn had two stipulations for joining the show: no more [[TheWorfEffect using him to prove the villains threat]] and wanted to be clearly different from other Klingons. Worf beating up Martoks' son to get his attention, plus ordering prune juice at Quarks, was to set the new tone for Worf on [=DS9=].Iraq.
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelDorn had two stipulations for joining the show: no more [[TheWorfEffect using him to prove the villains threat]] and wanted to be clearly different from other Klingons. Worf beating up Martoks' son to get his attention, plus ordering prune juice at Quarks, was to set the new tone for Worf on [=DS9=].
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* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, like a great deal of the rest of the show it particularly struck a chord with fans in the new millennium, particularly in the wake of the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.
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* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, like a great deal of the rest of the show it particularly struck a chord with fans in the new millennium, particularly in the wake of the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.Iraq.
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelDorn had two stipulations for joining the show: no more [[TheWorfEffect using him to prove the villains threat]] and wanted to be clearly different from other Klingons. Worf beating up Martoks' son to get his attention, plus ordering prune juice at Quarks, was to set the new tone for Worf on [=DS9=].
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelDorn had two stipulations for joining the show: no more [[TheWorfEffect using him to prove the villains threat]] and wanted to be clearly different from other Klingons. Worf beating up Martoks' son to get his attention, plus ordering prune juice at Quarks, was to set the new tone for Worf on [=DS9=].
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** Worf mourning the loss of the ''Enterprise''-D seems a lot funnier when ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' revealed [[spoiler:Geordi had been restoring her for 20 years...and all Worf can do is complain that he preferred the weapons systems on the ''Enterprise''-E (and that what happened to her was not his fault).]]
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** Worf mourning the loss of the ''Enterprise''-D seems a lot funnier when ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' revealed [[spoiler:Geordi had been restoring her for 20 years... and all Worf can do is complain that he preferred the weapons systems on the ''Enterprise''-E (and that what happened to her was not his fault).]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: The holoprogram that Dax and Kira were in when the met Worf is plainly a Camelot program, with Kira as Guinevere. When Lancelot kissed her, she knocked him out. ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' would later introduce Cristobal Rios, portrayed by Santiago Cabrera, who also appeared in ''Series/Merlin2008''... as Lancelot. Kira knocked out Rios!
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** The holoprogram that Dax and Kira were in when the met Worf is plainly a Camelot program, with Kira as Guinevere. When Lancelot kissed her, she knocked him out. ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' would later introduce Cristobal Rios, portrayed by Santiago Cabrera, who also appeared in ''Series/Merlin2008''... as Lancelot. Kira knocked outRios!Rios!
** Worf mourning the loss of the ''Enterprise''-D seems a lot funnier when ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' revealed [[spoiler:Geordi had been restoring her for 20 years...and all Worf can do is complain that he preferred the weapons systems on the ''Enterprise''-E (and that what happened to her was not his fault).]]
** The holoprogram that Dax and Kira were in when the met Worf is plainly a Camelot program, with Kira as Guinevere. When Lancelot kissed her, she knocked him out. ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' would later introduce Cristobal Rios, portrayed by Santiago Cabrera, who also appeared in ''Series/Merlin2008''... as Lancelot. Kira knocked out
** Worf mourning the loss of the ''Enterprise''-D seems a lot funnier when ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' revealed [[spoiler:Geordi had been restoring her for 20 years...and all Worf can do is complain that he preferred the weapons systems on the ''Enterprise''-E (and that what happened to her was not his fault).]]
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In hindsight, the Klingons have a good point about stopping ships leaving Bajoran space and searching them for Changelings. At the this point it's obvious the Dominion is infiltrating the Alpha Quadrant in preparation for war so it's kind of baffling the Federation isn't already more strictly regulating traffic coming through the wormhole and requiring ships to submit to inspection.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The holoprogram that Dax and Kira were in when the met Worf is plainly a Camelot program, with Kira as Guinevere. When Lancelot kissed her, she knocked him out. ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' would later introduce Cristobal Rios, portrayed by Santiago Cabrera, who also appeared in ''Series/Merlin2008''... as Lancelot. Kira knocked out Rios!
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* CanonFodder: Worf tells Sisko he was having a hard time around humans after the destruction of the Enterprise-D. That is expanded upon in the Creator/PeterDavid novel [[Literature/StarTrekNovelVerse Triangle: Imzadi II]]. The novel also explains the end of Worf's relationship with Deanna Troi and why he was with the clerics of Boreth.
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Trivia, not YMMV
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* ThrowItIn: The "root beer" scene between Quark and Garak was written at the last minute because, once filming was over, they figured out they were short a couple minutes on the episode and needed one more scene.
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* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, it particularly struck a chord with fans of the show after the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.
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* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, like a great deal of the rest of the show it particularly struck a chord with fans in the new millennium, particularly in the wake of the show after the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.
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This isn't an opinion, it's flat-out incorrect based on internal information. It was the Dominion that spurred the Klingon invasion of Cardassia, nothing about what the Klingons were doing was against their goals
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Some fans actually sided with the Klingons in their decision to invade Cardassia, claiming that the only thing they did that was indisputably wrong was illegally seizing and searching ships in Bajoran space, and that had the Federation just sat back and allowed them to conquer the Cardassians with minimal fuss, the entire Dominion War may never have happened.
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Broken Base requires two sides of the argument
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* BrokenBase: There actually is a small segment of fandom who felt that the [=DS9=] crew were in the wrong for trying to interfere with the Klingon invasion of Cardassian space, and that according to the Prime Directive, the Federation should have stepped back and allowed the Klingons to conquer the Cardassians. Said fans also take serious issue with the Federation choosing to side with a power who they had been in active hostilities within the past decade, over a power they had been allies with for just shy of 80 years, even if the invasion did turn out to be based on logic that at best was faulty, and at worst a flat-out lie.
** Some fans feel that [=DS9=] had Chancellor Gowron's character derailed starting with this episode. It helps that the next season reveals that [[spoiler:Gowron was being misled by a changeling imposter of General Martok.]]
** Some fans feel that [=DS9=] had Chancellor Gowron's character derailed starting with this episode. It helps that the next season reveals that [[spoiler:Gowron was being misled by a changeling imposter of General Martok.]]
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* ThrowItIn: The "root beer" scene between Quark and Garak was written at the last minute because, once filming was over, they figured out they were short a couple minutes on the episode and needed one more scene.
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** Some fans feel that [=DS9=] had Chancellor Gowron's character derailed starting with this episode. It helps that the next season reveals that [[spoiler:General Martok from this episode turned out to be a Changeling mole]].
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** Some fans feel that [=DS9=] had Chancellor Gowron's character derailed starting with this episode. It helps that the next season reveals that [[spoiler:General Martok from this episode turned out to be [[spoiler:Gowron was being misled by a Changeling mole]].changeling imposter of General Martok.]]
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** Some fans feel that [=DS9=] had Chancellor Gowron's character derailed starting with this episode. It helps that the next season reveals that [[spoiler:General Martok from this episode turned out to be a Changeling mole]].
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The same group of Klingons beams into command a half-dozen times.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Some fans actually sided with the Klingons in their decision to invade Cardassia, claiming that the only thing they did that was indisputably wrong was illegally seizing and searching ships in Bajoran space, and that had the Federation just sat back and allowed them to conquer the Cardassians with minimal fuss, the entire Dominion War may never have happened.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: The same group of Klingons beams into command a half-dozentimes.times.
* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, it particularly struck a chord with fans of the show after the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: The same group of Klingons beams into command a half-dozen
* ValuesResonance: While the idea of a major power starting a war on shaky grounds and their allies being left with the difficult choice to follow them or not wasn't exactly something new even when the episode first aired, it particularly struck a chord with fans of the show after the U.S.'s 2003 invasion of Iraq.
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* BrokenBase: There actually is a small segment of fandom who felt that the [=DS9=] crew were in the wrong for trying to interfere with the Klingon invasion of Cardassian space, and that according to the Prime Directive, the Federation should have stepped back and allowed the Klingons to conquer the Cardassians. Said fans also take serious issue with the Federation choosing to side with a power who they had been in active hostilities within the past decade, over a power they had been allies with for just shy of 80 years, even if the invasion did turn out to be based on logic that at best was faulty, and at worst a flat-out lie.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The same group of Klingons beams into command a half-dozen times.