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* FridgeBrilliance: Its mentioned in passing that the Torren region were the ones at war with the [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Kalos region]] some 3,000 years ago, before King AZ used the Ultimate Weapon against them. Since the Ultimate Weapon also had the side effect of introducing Mega Evolution into the world, it actually makes perfect sense that the Torren region (like the Kalos region) would have an influx of never-before-seen Mega Stones, as well as being the perfect place for the "Perfection" Cult to research the science behind Mega Evolution.
** You can visit the first Augur's hideout in Gaea Town after beating the Elite Four, and there you find the TM for False Swipe, a move that can never KO an opponent. The humor sets in when you realize that the First Augur destroyed several cults but never actually punished the members of said cults, and thus never finished them off- just like False Swipe!
* GoddamnedBats: The Trainers of the Selene Gym, their Pokémon are fully evolved Psychic and Ghost types that average around level 60, but still only have no more than two Pokémon each. However, each trainer can realistically knock out or seriously damage one or two members of your team forcing you to heal, and worst, because of special rules every trainer in this gym barely gives any experience points making every fight feel like a waste of time. [[spoiler:Luckily, there's a secret passage that allows you to skip every trainer and head straight for the Gym Leader, Diana.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: Its It's mentioned in passing that the Torren region were was the ones at war with the [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Kalos region]] some 3,000 years ago, before King AZ used the Ultimate Weapon against them. Since the Ultimate Weapon also had the side effect side-effect of introducing Mega Evolution into the world, it actually makes perfect sense that the Torren region (like the Kalos region) would have an influx of never-before-seen Mega Stones, as well as being the perfect place for the "Perfection" Cult to research the science behind Mega Evolution.
** You can visit the first Augur's hideout in Gaea Town after beating the Elite Four, and there you find the TM for False Swipe, a move that can never KO an opponent. The humor sets in when you realize that the First Augur destroyed several cults but never actually punished the members of said cults, and thus never finished them off- off just like False Swipe!
* GoddamnedBats: The Trainers of the Selene Gym, their Pokémon are fully evolved Psychic and Ghost types that average around level 60, but still only have no more than two Pokémon each. However, each trainer can realistically knock out or seriously damage one or two members of your team team, forcing you to heal, and worst, worse, because of special rules rules, every trainer in this gym barely gives any experience points points, making every fight feel like a waste of time. [[spoiler:Luckily, there's a secret passage that allows you to skip every trainer and head straight for the Gym Leader, Diana.]]



** This game allows you to capture Delta Pokémon, which was inspired by the Delta Species line in Pokémon TCG, which gave a majority of Pokémon different typings. On August 1st 2016, VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon introduced Alolan Pokémon that uses a similar concept, such as making the Fire-type Vulpix an Ice-type.
** This game introduced the concept of doing away with the ScrappyMechanic of an HM Slave by making moves like Surf and Flash into items, and allow many alternate moves to work like Strength and Rock Smash. Again, come ''Pokémon Sun/Moon'' the official game has finally done away for the need for [=HMs=] by instead providing free Ride Pokémon that don't take a slot in the player's party.
* HolyShitQuotient: All over the place. Basically, if you're expecting this to be like any other Pokémon game, prepared to be shocked.

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** This game allows you to capture Delta Pokémon, which was inspired by the Delta Species line in Pokémon TCG, which gave a majority of Pokémon different typings. On August 1st 2016, VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' introduced Alolan Pokémon that uses a similar concept, such as making the Fire-type Vulpix an Ice-type.
** This game introduced the concept of doing away with the ScrappyMechanic of an HM Slave by making moves like Surf and Flash into items, and allow many alternate moves to work like Strength and Rock Smash. Again, come ''Pokémon Sun/Moon'' Sun/Moon'', the official game has finally done away for the need for [=HMs=] by instead providing free Ride Pokémon that don't take a slot in the player's party.
* HolyShitQuotient: All over the place. Basically, if you're expecting this to be like any other Pokémon game, prepared prepare to be shocked.



** Another thing is that the cults in-game refer to themselves as cults which something real life religious groups, even if they're classified as such, ''would never do.''
* NightmareFuel: At the beginning of the game, the player is imprisoned by the Cult Of Darkrai where their memories are being eaten by Gengar. Then when you escape, Persephone sacrifices one of her members to summon Darkrai.

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** Another thing is that the cults in-game refer to themselves as cults cults, which is something real life religious groups, even if they're classified as such, ''would never do.''
* NightmareFuel: At the beginning of the game, the player is imprisoned by the Cult Of Darkrai Darkrai, where their memories are being eaten by Gengar. Then when you escape, Persephone sacrifices one of her members to summon Darkrai.



** Mega Beedrill [[spoiler:in the second gym battle]], it has a ludicrous amount of speed and attack power as well as having a great spread of moves, making it a GlassCannon that can very realistically sweep your party with little effort. And this is when you don't have access to Mega Evolution yet.[[note]]It won't Mega Evolve on Easy Mode though and has a Life Orb instead.[[/note]]
** Orion, the first gym leader is extremely difficult since his sunlight-themed team has moves that you probably won't have until much later in the game. His Vulpix has Flamethrower and Energy Ball, two 90 power attacks that most people won't have access to unless they have some gym badges first.
*** Fortunately, two of his Pokemon, Larvesta and Fletchinder, have a double-weakness to Rock...of course, you won't know that until you actually fight him.
** Nora, in her Metchi Town battle who has five bulky Pokémon, including a ''level 28 Celebi''. It has base 100 stats across the board while most Pokémon are still unevolved, which can really hurt your team if you don't have anything for it.[[note]]Especially on Hard Mode.[[/note]]
** The [[spoiler: Taen]] battle at the peak of the Dragon Ruins is difficult for the reason that it is a tag-team battle, with [[spoiler: Nora]] joining you vs. 2 of [[spoiler: Taen's]] Pokémon at a time.[[spoiler: Nora uses only three Pokémon however, and they are not very good matchups against Taen's lineup. Worse, once Nora's Pokémon have fainted, you may not send out a second of your own to take their place. It's not uncommon to find yourself taking Taen's Pokémon on 1 vs. 2 for a significant portion of the battle. And that is not even mentioning Taen's team, which includes several pseudo-legendaries, White Kyurem, Armored Zekrom and a Mega Typhlosion, whose ability raises its already gargantuan special attack whenever it knocks one of your Pokémon out. Have fun.]]
** The Elite Four battles in this game are considered one of the hardest in any game ever. Their teams revolve around competitive strategies rather than types and all their Pokémon are at the same level as your highest level Pokémon.
** The Champion, [[spoiler:Reukra]] takes it UpToEleven. [[spoiler: He leads with an Armored Tyranitar that has Sand Stream, meaning its' defenses will go up by 25 percent, so special Fighting type moves wouldn't be able to KO it easily. He has a good number of Deltas and legendaries as well as a Mega Flygon that can run through your team if you're not prepared. Worst of all is his Armored Delta Volcarona. It has the Dark/Poison typing making it only weak to Ground; but it also has the ability Levitate to avoid its' only weakness. And like the Elite Four his team is at the same level as your highest level Pokémon.]]
* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: [[https://wiki.p-insurgence.com/images/archive/0/08/20170817020329%21105_1.png Mega Marowak]] combined with the spirit of their deceased mother, gaining the Ghost sub-type as it wields a mighty both hammer/scythe ... except the placement of the weapon, plus the fact that only the head of said weapon has a ghostly glow (thus making it look disconnected from the rest of the weapon) instead makes it looks like there's a giant bone protrusion eerily floating in front of Mega Marowak's crotch for some reason. This may be why Mega Marowak has been given a [[https://wiki.p-insurgence.com/images/0/08/105_1.png redesign for the next update]].
* TheUntwist: The revelation that [[spoiler:Jaern, the Second Augur,]] being a bad guy can be this to some. Players can become suspicious from [[spoiler:his talk of taking up the mantle of Augur, but also searching for the First one and his overall slightly stilted speech in the beginning of the game]].
* TheWoobie: Delta Pokémon are portrayed as this, as they are described as outcasts from other Pokémon, usually have a hard time getting used to their new typings, and cannot breed due to the genetic modifications making them sterile (although they ''can'' breed with Delta Ditto). Delta Sunkern's Pokédex entry says its been outright shunned, Delta Budew has to hide in a dark library as its modifications have caused its eyes to become too sensitive to stand being in the sun, and as for the Delta Starters, although Prof. Sylvan agrees to keep one to study it, she says if the player and Damien don't take the other two she'll just release them into the wild despite knowing full well they'll probably die outside captivity.

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** Mega Beedrill [[spoiler:in the second gym battle]], it has a ludicrous amount of speed and attack power as well as having a great spread of moves, making it a GlassCannon that can very realistically sweep your party with little effort. And this is when you don't have access to Mega Evolution yet.[[note]]It won't Mega Evolve on Easy Mode though Mode, though, and has a Life Orb instead.[[/note]]
** Orion, the first gym leader leader, is extremely difficult since his sunlight-themed team has moves that you probably won't have until much later in the game. His Vulpix has Flamethrower and Energy Ball, two 90 power attacks that most people won't have access to unless they have some gym badges first.
*** Fortunately, two of his Pokemon, Pokémon, Larvesta and Fletchinder, have a double-weakness to Rock...of course, you won't know that until you actually fight him.
** Nora, in her Metchi Town battle battle, who has five bulky Pokémon, including a ''level 28 Celebi''. It has base 100 stats across the board while most Pokémon are still unevolved, which can really hurt your team if you don't have anything for it.[[note]]Especially on Hard Mode.[[/note]]
** The [[spoiler: Taen]] [[spoiler:Taen]] battle at the peak of the Dragon Ruins is difficult for the reason that it is a tag-team battle, with [[spoiler: Nora]] [[spoiler:Nora]] joining you vs. 2 of [[spoiler: Taen's]] [[spoiler:Taen's]] Pokémon at a time.[[spoiler: Nora time. [[spoiler:Nora uses only three Pokémon Pokémon, however, and they are not very good matchups against Taen's lineup. Worse, once Nora's Pokémon have fainted, you may not send out a second of your own to take their place. It's not uncommon to find yourself taking Taen's Pokémon on 1 vs. 2 for a significant portion of the battle. And that is not even mentioning Taen's team, which includes several pseudo-legendaries, White Kyurem, Armored Zekrom Zekrom, and a Mega Typhlosion, whose ability raises its already gargantuan special attack whenever it knocks one of your Pokémon out. Have fun.]]
** The Elite Four battles in this game are considered one of the hardest in any game ever. Their teams revolve around competitive strategies rather than types and all their Pokémon are at the same level as your highest level highest-level Pokémon.
** The Champion, [[spoiler:Reukra]] [[spoiler:Reukra]], takes it UpToEleven. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He leads with an Armored Tyranitar that has Sand Stream, meaning its' its defenses will go up by 25 percent, so special Fighting type moves wouldn't be able to KO it easily. He has a good number of Deltas and legendaries as well as a Mega Flygon that can run through your team if you're not prepared. Worst of all is his Armored Delta Volcarona. It has the Dark/Poison typing making it only weak to Ground; but it also has the ability Levitate to avoid its' its only weakness. And like the Elite Four Four, his team is at the same level as your highest level Pokémon.]]
* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: [[https://wiki.p-insurgence.com/images/archive/0/08/20170817020329%21105_1.png Mega Marowak]] combined with the spirit of their deceased mother, gaining the Ghost sub-type as it wields a mighty both hammer/scythe ... hammer/scythe... except the placement of the weapon, plus the fact that only the head of said weapon has a ghostly glow (thus making it look disconnected from the rest of the weapon) weapon), instead makes it looks like there's a giant bone protrusion eerily floating in front of Mega Marowak's crotch for some reason. This may be why Mega Marowak has been given a [[https://wiki.p-insurgence.com/images/0/08/105_1.png redesign for the next update]].
* TheUntwist: The revelation that [[spoiler:Jaern, the Second Augur,]] being is a bad guy can be this to some. Players can become suspicious from [[spoiler:his talk of taking up the mantle of Augur, but also searching for the First one and his overall slightly stilted speech in the beginning of the game]].
* TheWoobie: Delta Pokémon are portrayed as this, as they are described as outcasts from other Pokémon, usually have a hard time getting used to their new typings, and cannot breed due to the genetic modifications making them sterile (although they ''can'' breed with Delta Ditto). Delta Sunkern's Pokédex entry says its it's been outright shunned, Delta Budew has to hide in a dark library as its modifications have caused its eyes to become too sensitive to stand being in the sun, and as for the Delta Starters, although Prof. Sylvan agrees to keep one to study it, she says if the player and Damien don't take the other two two, she'll just release them into the wild wild, despite knowing full well they'll probably die outside captivity.


** Some lines of dialogue are also so self-aware to the point they become this, like Jaern referring to himself as a "ChaoticGood" character, and Persephone referring to things as outright being "edgy".

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** Some lines of dialogue are also so self-aware to the point they become this, like Jaern referring to himself as a "ChaoticGood" character, and Persephone referring to things as outright being "edgy". Another instance happens when Audrey literally calls the protagonist a "special snowflake".


** The Champion, [[spoiler:Reukra]] takes it UpToEleven. [[spoiler: He leads with an Armored Tyranitar that has Sand Stream, meaning its' defenses will go up by 25 percent, so special Fighting type moves wouldn't be able to KO it easily. His team is full of many powerful Pokémon that can easily sweep through your team if you can't figure out how to counter him. And like the Elite Four his team is at the same level as your highest level Pokémon.]]

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** The Champion, [[spoiler:Reukra]] takes it UpToEleven. [[spoiler: He leads with an Armored Tyranitar that has Sand Stream, meaning its' defenses will go up by 25 percent, so special Fighting type moves wouldn't be able to KO it easily. His team is full He has a good number of many powerful Pokémon Deltas and legendaries as well as a Mega Flygon that can easily sweep run through your team if you can't figure out how you're not prepared. Worst of all is his Armored Delta Volcarona. It has the Dark/Poison typing making it only weak to counter him. Ground; but it also has the ability Levitate to avoid its' only weakness. And like the Elite Four his team is at the same level as your highest level Pokémon.]]


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Audrey. [[spoiler: Quite a few fans were sad to see her demise. Thankfully, you can save her in a post-game sidequest.]]


* {{Narm}}: The sheer attempts at trying to be DarkerAndEdgier than it's base material can come off as this, as it often can and will descend into flat-out 'Edgelord' territory at some points. To get the point across; the developer eventually ''added the option of a LighterAndSofter mode'' because of this.
** Some lines of dialogue are also so self-aware to the point they become this, like Jaern referring to himself as a "ChaoticGood" character, and Persephone referring to things as outright being "edgy".
** Another thing is that the cults in-game refer to themselves as cults which something real life religious groups, even if they're classified as such, ''would never do.''


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* {{Narm}}:
** Both the Dark and Traditional storylines get accused of this; the attempt at being DarkerAndEdgier sometimes desceneded into 'Edgelord' territory at some points, to the point the developer eventually ''added the option of a LighterAndSofter mode''. However, for those who like the Dark storyline, Traditional can seem forcefully silly and nonsensical in comparison, with some claiming it makes less sense.
** Some lines of dialogue are also so self-aware to the point they become this, like Jaern referring to himself as a "ChaoticGood" character, and Persephone referring to things as outright being "edgy".
** Another thing is that the cults in-game refer to themselves as cults which something real life religious groups, even if they're classified as such, ''would never do.''


** Some lines of dialogue are also so self-aware to the point they become this, like Jaern referring to himself as a "ChaoticGood" character.

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** Some lines of dialogue are also so self-aware to the point they become this, like Jaern referring to himself as a "ChaoticGood" character.character, and Persephone referring to things as outright being "edgy".
** Another thing is that the cults in-game refer to themselves as cults which something real life religious groups, even if they're classified as such, ''would never do.''

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** Some lines of dialogue are also so self-aware to the point they become this, like Jaern referring to himself as a "ChaoticGood" character.


* {{Narm}}: The sheer attempts at trying to be DarkerAndEdier than it's base material can come off as this, as it often can and will descend into flat-out 'Edgelord' territory at some points. To get the point across; the developer eventually ''added the option of a LighterAndSofter mode'' because of this.

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* {{Narm}}: The sheer attempts at trying to be DarkerAndEdier DarkerAndEdgier than it's base material can come off as this, as it often can and will descend into flat-out 'Edgelord' territory at some points. To get the point across; the developer eventually ''added the option of a LighterAndSofter mode'' because of this.

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* {{Narm}}: The sheer attempts at trying to be DarkerAndEdier than it's base material can come off as this, as it often can and will descend into flat-out 'Edgelord' territory at some points. To get the point across; the developer eventually ''added the option of a LighterAndSofter mode'' because of this.


** Nora, in her Metchi Town battle who has five bulky Pokémon, including a Level 28 Celebi. It has base 100 stats across the board while most Pokémon are still unevolved, which can really hurt your team if you don't have anything for it.[[note]]Especially on Hard Mode.[[/note]]

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*** Fortunately, two of his Pokemon, Larvesta and Fletchinder, have a double-weakness to Rock...of course, you won't know that until you actually fight him.
** Nora, in her Metchi Town battle who has five bulky Pokémon, including a Level ''level 28 Celebi.Celebi''. It has base 100 stats across the board while most Pokémon are still unevolved, which can really hurt your team if you don't have anything for it.[[note]]Especially on Hard Mode.[[/note]]

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* HolyShitQuotient: All over the place. Basically, if you're expecting this to be like any other Pokémon game, prepared to be shocked.

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** You can visit the first Augur's hideout in Gaea Town after beating the Elite Four, and there you find the TM for False Swipe, a move that can never KO an opponent. The humor sets in when you realize that the First Augur destroyed several cults but never actually punished the members of said cults, and thus never finished them off- just like False Swipe!


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Audrey. [[spoiler: Quite a few fans were sad to see her demise.]]

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Audrey. [[spoiler: Quite a few fans were sad to see her demise. Thankfully, you can save her in a post-game sidequest.]]


* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: Mega Marowak combined with the spirit of their deceased mother, gaining the Ghost sub-type as it wields a mighty both hammer/scythe ... except the placement of the weapon, plus the fact that only the head of said weapon has a ghostly glow (thus making it look disconnected from the rest of the weapon) instead makes it looks like there's a giant bone protrusion eerily floating in front of Mega Marowak's crotch for some reason. This may be why Mega Marowak has been given a redesign for the next update.

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* UnfortunateCharacterDesign: [[https://wiki.p-insurgence.com/images/archive/0/08/20170817020329%21105_1.png Mega Marowak Marowak]] combined with the spirit of their deceased mother, gaining the Ghost sub-type as it wields a mighty both hammer/scythe ... except the placement of the weapon, plus the fact that only the head of said weapon has a ghostly glow (thus making it look disconnected from the rest of the weapon) instead makes it looks like there's a giant bone protrusion eerily floating in front of Mega Marowak's crotch for some reason. This may be why Mega Marowak has been given a [[https://wiki.p-insurgence.com/images/0/08/105_1.png redesign for the next update.update]].


* TheWoobie: Delta Pokémon are portrayed as this, as they are described as outcasts from other Pokémon, usually have a hard time getting used to their new typings, and cannot breed due to the genetic modifications making them sterile. Delta Sunkern's Pokédex entry says its been outright shunned, and Delta Budew has to hide in a dark library as its modifications have caused its eyes to become too sensitive to stand being in the sun.

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* TheWoobie: Delta Pokémon are portrayed as this, as they are described as outcasts from other Pokémon, usually have a hard time getting used to their new typings, and cannot breed due to the genetic modifications making them sterile. sterile (although they ''can'' breed with Delta Ditto). Delta Sunkern's Pokédex entry says its been outright shunned, and Delta Budew has to hide in a dark library as its modifications have caused its eyes to become too sensitive to stand being in the sun.sun, and as for the Delta Starters, although Prof. Sylvan agrees to keep one to study it, she says if the player and Damien don't take the other two she'll just release them into the wild despite knowing full well they'll probably die outside captivity.

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