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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: It would have been a lot more enjoyable if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. It's quite typical for Creator/LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, [[AudienceAlienatingPremise regular people would never want to pick it up again]]. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod, it's a RomanticComedy… how..?

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story is about Nono Nonomiya entering olympic skiing and trying to win the gold medal in order to honor her deceased father, Yuusuke, all while disguised as her also deceased brother, Yuuta. However after the story reveals [[spoiler:Yuusuke had abused Yuuta, physically and psychologically to the point of driving him to suicide]], it becomes really hard to care whether Nono wins the gold medal or not. Not helped by the fact that most of the surrounding characters are very unlikable, with only a few exceptions. And the amount of crap Nono has to go through throughout the story makes this series even more difficult to enjoy.


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The story is about Nono Nonomiya entering olympic skiing and trying to win the gold medal in order to honor her deceased father, Yuusuke, all while disguised as her also deceased brother, Yuuta. However after the story reveals [[spoiler:Yuusuke had abused Yuuta, physically and psychologically to the point of driving him to suicide]], it becomes really hard to care whether Nono wins the gold medal or not. Not helped by the fact that most of the surrounding characters are very unlikable, with only a few exceptions. And the amount of crap Nono has to go through throughout the story makes this series even more difficult to enjoy.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: [[http://www.wsjusa.com/olympic-inclusion/ as of 2014, girls are now allowed to compete in ski jumping in the Olympics]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. It's quite typical for Creator/LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, [[AudienceAlienatingPremise regular people would never want to pick it up again]]. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod, it's a RomanticComedy… how..?

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had It would have been so much better a lot more enjoyable if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. It's quite typical for Creator/LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, [[AudienceAlienatingPremise regular people would never want to pick it up again]]. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod, it's a RomanticComedy… how..?
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story is about Nono Nonomiya entering olympic skiing by trying to win the gold medal in order to honor her deceased father, Yuusuke, all while disguised as her also deceased brother, Yuuta. However after the story reveals [[spoiler:he had abused Nono's brother, Yuuta, physically and psychologically to the point of driving him to suicide]], it becomes really hard to care whether Nono wins the gold medal or not. Not helped by the fact that most of the surrounding characters are very unlikable, with a few exceptions.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story is about Nono Nonomiya entering olympic skiing by trying to win the gold medal in order to honor her deceased father, Yuusuke, all while disguised as her also deceased brother, Yuuta. However after the story reveals [[spoiler:he [[spoiler:Yuusuke had abused Nono's brother, Yuuta, physically and psychologically to the point of driving him to suicide]], it becomes really hard to care whether Nono wins the gold medal or not. Not helped by the fact that most of the surrounding characters are very unlikable, with a few exceptions.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story is about Nono Nonomiya entering olympic skiing by trying to win the gold medal in order to please her deceased father, Yuusuke, all while disguised as her also deceased brother, Yuuta. However after the story reveals [[spoiler:he had abused Nono's brother, Yuuta, physically and psychologically to the point of driving him to suicide]], it becomes really hard to care whether Nono wins the gold medal or not. Not helped by the fact that most of the surrounding characters are very unlikable, with a few exceptions.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story is about Nono Nonomiya entering olympic skiing by trying to win the gold medal in order to please honor her deceased father, Yuusuke, all while disguised as her also deceased brother, Yuuta. However after the story reveals [[spoiler:he had abused Nono's brother, Yuuta, physically and psychologically to the point of driving him to suicide]], it becomes really hard to care whether Nono wins the gold medal or not. Not helped by the fact that most of the surrounding characters are very unlikable, with a few exceptions.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story is about Nono Nonomiya entering olympic skiing by trying to win the gold medal in order to please her deceased father, Yuusuke, all while disguised as her also deceased brother, Yuuta. However after the story reveals [[spoiler:he had abused Nono's brother, Yuuta, physically and psychologically to the point of driving him to suicide]], it becomes really hard to care whether Nono wins the gold medal or not. Not helped by the fact that most of the surrounding characters are very unlikable, with a few exceptions.
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* JerkassWoobie: Yuusuke was obviously supposed to be this. However, his reason for treating his kids so badly (especially Yuuta) is so weak that no normal person will feel any sympathy for him.

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* JerkassWoobie: Yuusuke was obviously supposed intended to be this. However, his reason for treating his kids so badly (especially Yuuta) is so weak that no normal person will feel any sympathy for him.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yuusuke Nonomiya. At first it's easy to sympathize with him because he was publicly shamed and abused for losing the gold medal. However all sympathy is lost for him when he not only abuses his son, Yuuta, into becoming a better ski jumper, but even threatens to kill him if he refuses to get better at his skills. Sure, Yuusuke shows remorse for his abuse of Yuuta and he even hangs himself in despair, however that doesn't make him any less of a scumbag.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yuusuke Nonomiya. At first it's easy to sympathize with him because he was publicly shamed and abused for losing the gold medal. However all sympathy is lost for him Yuusuke when he not only abuses his son, Yuuta, into becoming a better ski jumper, but even threatens to kill him if he refuses to get better at his skills. Sure, Yuusuke eventually shows remorse for his abuse of Yuuta and he even hangs himself in despair, however that doesn't make him any less does little to mitigate his atrocious treatment of a scumbag.Yuuta.
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* JerkassWoobie: Yuusuke was probably supposed to be this. However, his reason for treating his kids so badly (especially Yuuta) is so weak that no normal person will feel any sympathy for him.

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* JerkassWoobie: Yuusuke was probably obviously supposed to be this. However, his reason for treating his kids so badly (especially Yuuta) is so weak that no normal person will feel any sympathy for him.
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* JerkassWoobie: Yuusuke was probably supposed to be this. However, his reason for treating his kids (especially Yuuta) is so weak that no normal person will feel any sympathy for him.

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* JerkassWoobie: Yuusuke was probably supposed to be this. However, his reason for treating his kids so badly (especially Yuuta) is so weak that no normal person will feel any sympathy for him.
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* JerkassWoobie: Yuusuke was probably supposed to be this. However, his reason for treating his kids (especially Yuuta) is so weak that no normal person will feel any sympathy for him.
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* TheWoobie: Nono. Come on, the poor kid has been training all this time to win the Olympic gold medal, [[spoiler:but her dad just didn't care about her effort because there isn't a women's category in ski jumping, and focused all his attention on Yuuta, whose ability... just wasn't good enough.]]

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* TheWoobie: Nono. Come on, the poor kid has been training all this time to win the Olympic gold medal, [[spoiler:but her dad just didn't care about her effort because there isn't a women's category in ski jumping, and focused all his attention on Yuuta, whose ability... just wasn't good enough.]]]]
** Yuusuke (at first). Being publicly shamed and harassed just because you lost the gold medal is not a pleasant experience for anyone. However, he loses his woobiness by the time he's abusing his son, Yuuta.
** Speaking of Yuuta, he more than counts as this. First he's constantly being abused by his dad, Yuusuke, into becoming a better skii jumper and [[spoiler:eventually commits suicide by setting his house on fire]].

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Its premise is not the issue, instead how it's presented. A lot of people got turned off with



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, [[AudienceAlienatingPremise regular people would never want to pick it up again]]. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's It's quite typical for LynnOkamoto, Creator/LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, [[AudienceAlienatingPremise regular people would never want to pick it up again]]. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it WordOfGod, it's a RomanticComedy… how..?
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* TheScrappy: Yuusuke Nonomiya for horribly abusing his son Yuuta into becoming a better skii jumper all for his own selfish reasons so people can stop pubicly harassing him (Yuusuke) for losing the gold medal.

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* TheScrappy: Yuusuke Nonomiya for horribly abusing his son Yuuta son, Yuuta, into becoming a better skii jumper all for his own selfish reasons so people can stop pubicly harassing him (Yuusuke) for losing the gold medal.
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* TheScrappy: Yuusuke Nonomiya for horribly abusing his son Yuuta into becoming a better skii jumper all for his own selfish reasons so people can stop pubicly harassing him (Yuusuke) for losing the gold medal.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yuusuke Nonomiya. At first it's easy to sympathize with him because he was publicly shamed and abused for losing the gold medal. However all sympathy is lost for him when he not only abuses his son, Yuuta, into becoming a better ski jumper, but even threatens to kill him if he refuses to get better at his skills. Sure, Yuusuke shows remorse for his abuse of Yuuta and he even hangs himself in despair, however that doesn't make him any less of a scumbag.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: girls are now allowed to compete in ski jumping in the olympics.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: [[http://www.wsjusa.com/olympic-inclusion/ as of 2014, girls are now allowed to compete in ski jumping in the olympics.Olympics]].

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Its premise is not the issue, instead how it's presented. A lot of people got turned off with



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, regular people would never want to pick it up again. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, [[AudienceAlienatingPremise regular people would never want to pick it up again.again]]. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?
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* {{Narm}}: the BilingualBonus of 'Forsätt' fall into this by the character claiming it's Norwegian, when Norwegian use å and not ä.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for that mangaka, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, regular people would never want to pick it up again. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for that mangaka, LynnOkamoto, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, regular people would never want to pick it up again. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?
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* TheyWastedACompletelyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for that mangaka, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, regular people would never want to pick it up again. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?

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* TheyWastedACompletelyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for that mangaka, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, regular people would never want to pick it up again. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?
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* TheyWastedACompletelyGoodPlot: it had been so much better if it actually was based mostly on character growth and ski jumping, instead of [[spoiler: all the [[AllMenArePerverts perverts]], [[NearRapeExperience Near Rape Experiences]], {{Squick}}, overly many BreakTheCutie moments, and shit]]. I know it's typical for that mangaka, but still… it just makes it disgusting and after finishing it because one wonder how it'll end, regular people would never want to pick it up again. To make matters worse, according to WordOfGod is it a RomanticComedy… how..?
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: girls are now allowed to compete in ski jumping in the olympics.

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* CompleteMonster: Many characters apply. But there is a subversion with [[spoiler:Shiriya/Emperor who is later revealed to be quite honorable, if still a total asshole.]]
* TheWoobie: Nono. Come on, the poor kid has been training all this time to win the Olympic gold medal, [[spoiler:but her dad just didn't care about her effort because, of course, there isn't a women's category in ski jumping, and focused all his attention on Yuuta, whose ability... just wasn't good enough.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Many characters apply. But there is a subversion with [[spoiler:Shiriya/Emperor who is later revealed to be quite honorable, if still a total asshole.]]
* TheWoobie: Nono. Come on, the poor kid has been training all this time to win the Olympic gold medal, [[spoiler:but her dad just didn't care about her effort because, of course, because there isn't a women's category in ski jumping, and focused all his attention on Yuuta, whose ability... just wasn't good enough.]]
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* AlasPoorVillain: He may have been a really shitty parent towards Yuuta, but you can't help but feel sorry for how Yuura's life turned out to be. It may help that he realized how terrible he was towards his son.
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* AlasPoorVillain: He may have been a really shitty parent towards Yuuta, but you can't help but feel sorry for how Yuura's life turned out to be. It may help that he realized how terrible he was towards his son.
* CompleteMonster: Many characters apply. But there is a subversion with [[spoiler:Shiriya/Emperor who is later revealed to be quite honorable, if still a total asshole.]]
* TheWoobie: Nono. Come on, the poor kid has been training all this time to win the Olympic gold medal, [[spoiler:but her dad just didn't care about her effort because, of course, there isn't a women's category in ski jumping, and focused all his attention on Yuuta, whose ability... just wasn't good enough.]]

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