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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: The stated moral about trusting your instincts is widely dismissed as glossing over [[BrokenAesep the bad decisions it led them to make]] and their other [[BrokenBase controversial actions]]. Fans instead viewed the moral as "even if you're right you still need to have tact and proof, but even an outrageous claim without tact or proof might have some truth so should't be wholly dismissed".

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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: The stated moral about trusting your instincts is widely dismissed as glossing over [[BrokenAesep [[BrokenAesop the bad decisions it led them to make]] and their other [[BrokenBase controversial actions]]. Fans instead viewed the moral as "even if you're right you still need to have tact and proof, but even an outrageous claim without tact or proof might have some truth so should't be wholly dismissed".

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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: Even if you're right, you still need to gather proof and be tactful about it. On the other hand, no matter how outrageous or ridiculous someone's claims are, there might be some truth to it and find out yourself instead of jumping into conclusions.

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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: Even The stated moral about trusting your instincts is widely dismissed as glossing over [[BrokenAesep the bad decisions it led them to make]] and their other [[BrokenBase controversial actions]]. Fans instead viewed the moral as "even if you're right, right you still need to gather proof have tact and be tactful about it. On the other hand, no matter how proof, but even an outrageous claim without tact or ridiculous someone's claims are, there proof might be have some truth to it and find out yourself instead of jumping into conclusions. so should't be wholly dismissed".


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* BrokenAesop: Celestia states the episodes moral is the importance of trusting your instincts. But Twilight's instincts about Cadance being evil were only [[RightForTheWrongReasons half-correct]], led her to go about it in a way [[NotHelpingYourCase discrediting her warnings]], and attack the real Cadance until given proof it was her. The imposter Cadance points out her NearVillainVictory was due to everyone dismissing Twilight, meaning their instinct to trust her instead of Twilight [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter were horribly wrong]]. In short instincts led to far more bad decisions than good while the day was saved more by unrelated {{Villain Ball}}s.


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* FanWank: Celestia's claim about the importance of trusting your instincts is widely seen by those critical of it being {{broken|Aesop}} by and ignoring the episodes [[BrokenBase controversial happenings]] as due to her making it to salvage/avoid admitting her screwups here.
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Untrue. It showed that she was in Canterlot guarding during the night.


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The two-parter was Princess Luna's only season two appearance beside her focus episode, "Luna Eclipsed". However, she only appeared for two brief cameos with lines in part one, and only returned for a single line of part 2, uttering only three lines in the entire two-parter. Some people got upset with Luna disappearing during the invasion, leading to multiple interpretations of where she could be, but most of them leading to the meme of "Luna is useless."[[note]]However, the previous episode already established that Luna isn't in Canterlot until nightfall in her cameo; she shows up in this episode only after the post-wedding party (which is occurring at night) began. This fact is often glossed over.[[/note]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The two-parter was Princess Luna's only season two appearance beside her focus episode, "Luna Eclipsed". However, she only appeared for two brief cameos with lines in part one, and only returned for a single line of part 2, uttering only three lines in the entire two-parter. Some people got upset with Luna disappearing during the invasion, leading to multiple interpretations of where she could be, but most of them leading to the meme of "Luna is useless."[[note]]However, the previous episode already established that Luna isn't in Canterlot until nightfall in her cameo; she shows up in this episode only after the post-wedding party (which is occurring at night) began. This fact is often glossed over.[[/note]]"

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* {{Narm}}: During the dramatic "This Day Aria" song, the reveal shot of Shining Armor's derpy MindControlEyes may have caused a few unintended giggles.



* Queen Chrysalis and the changelings were meant to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race who sought to invade Equestria to steal and [[EmotionEater feed on its love]]. But the implication they needed to feed on love to survive caused them to instead come off as a WoobieSpecies forced to do so and operating under BlueAndOrangeMorality rather than maliciousness. Chrysalis was the only one to show [[KickTheDog excessive/unrelated cruelty]], but this added to the changelings sympathy by being made to commit such and suffering under a BadBoss, and for many wasn't enough to offset that she was trying to feed her subjects. It's only after the fact AscendedFanon that there later appearances would fix this.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Queen Chrysalis and the changelings were meant to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race who sought to invade Equestria to steal and [[EmotionEater feed on its love]]. But the implication they needed to feed on love to survive caused them to instead come off as a WoobieSpecies forced to do so and operating under BlueAndOrangeMorality rather than maliciousness. Chrysalis was the only one to show [[KickTheDog excessive/unrelated cruelty]], but this added to the changelings sympathy by being made to commit such and suffering under a BadBoss, and for many wasn't enough to offset that she was trying to feed her subjects. It's only after the fact AscendedFanon that there later appearances would fix this.
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* Queen Chrysalis and the changelings were meant to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race who sought to invade Equestria to steal and [[EmotionEater feed on its love]]. But the implication they needed to feed on love to survive caused them to instead come off as a WoobieSpecies forced to do so and operating under BlueAndOrangeMorality rather than maliciousness. Chrysalis was the only one to show [[KickTheDog excessive/unrelated cruelty]], but this added to the changelings sympathy by being made to commit such and suffering under a BadBoss, and for many wasn't enough to offset that she was trying to feed her subjects. It's only after the fact AscendedFanon that there later appearances would fix this, showing the changelings sympathetically and have them pull a HeelRaceTurn, while Chrysalis [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist subverted it by putting her wants over her subjects wellbeing]] and refusing redemption.

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* Queen Chrysalis and the changelings were meant to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race who sought to invade Equestria to steal and [[EmotionEater feed on its love]]. But the implication they needed to feed on love to survive caused them to instead come off as a WoobieSpecies forced to do so and operating under BlueAndOrangeMorality rather than maliciousness. Chrysalis was the only one to show [[KickTheDog excessive/unrelated cruelty]], but this added to the changelings sympathy by being made to commit such and suffering under a BadBoss, and for many wasn't enough to offset that she was trying to feed her subjects. It's only after the fact AscendedFanon that there later appearances would fix this, showing the changelings sympathetically and have them pull a HeelRaceTurn, while Chrysalis [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist subverted it by putting her wants over her subjects wellbeing]] and refusing redemption.this.

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I've never seen any work/general fanon that tried to explain them as a separate character from Celestia, at most a split personality.


* HilariousInHindsight: Celestia has a MemeticMolester version of herself called Molestia, which started out as a succubus that took her form. Queen Chrysalis takes the form of Shining Armor's lover. Guess we know the identity of that succubus now.


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* Queen Chrysalis and the changelings were meant to be an AlwaysChaoticEvil race who sought to invade Equestria to steal and [[EmotionEater feed on its love]]. But the implication they needed to feed on love to survive caused them to instead come off as a WoobieSpecies forced to do so and operating under BlueAndOrangeMorality rather than maliciousness. Chrysalis was the only one to show [[KickTheDog excessive/unrelated cruelty]], but this added to the changelings sympathy by being made to commit such and suffering under a BadBoss, and for many wasn't enough to offset that she was trying to feed her subjects. It's only after the fact AscendedFanon that there later appearances would fix this, showing the changelings sympathetically and have them pull a HeelRaceTurn, while Chrysalis [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist subverted it by putting her wants over her subjects wellbeing]] and refusing redemption.
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* EvilIsSexy: Queen Chrysalis given that she [[EmotionEater needs (to consume) love to survive]], [[ShapeshiftersDoItForAChange can become literally anyone you can think of]], and the similarities to both [[SuccubiAndIncubi succubi]] and [[VampiresAreSexGods certain vampires]], it's no wonder that there's been an explosion of 'sexy Chrysalis' art online.

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* OnceOriginalNowCommon: [[BrokenBase Controversy on the episodes' overall quality aside]], this finale was considered a game changer by many at the time of its release as it was not only the first big 2-Part finale, but it also dropped the SliceOfLife setup seen in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver The Best Night Ever]] in favor of the more traditional heroes vs. villains scenario that was only exclusive to the season premieres. 7 seasons later, this concept continued on for every season finale except for Season 3 that many newcomers find it hard to understand what made it such a big deal back in 2012.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: [[BrokenBase Controversy on the episodes' overall quality aside]], this finale was considered a game changer by many at the time of its release as it was not only the first big 2-Part finale, but it also dropped the SliceOfLife setup seen in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver The Best Night Ever]] in favor of the more traditional heroes vs. villains scenario that was only exclusive to the season premieres. 7 seasons later, this concept continued on for every season finale except for Season 3 that many newcomers find it hard to understand what made it such a big deal back in 2012.
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Removing a needless "you don't have a heart" remark.


* TheWoobie: Princess Cadance. The poor girl was kidnapped and held prisoner below Canterlot while Queen Chrysalis was running around as her. She spends her ''wedding day'' locked in a cave underneath Canterlot. If the ''heartbreak'' in her voice as she sings her half of "This Day Aria" doesn't make you want to hug her, you don't have a heart!

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* TheWoobie: Princess Cadance. The poor girl was kidnapped and held prisoner below Canterlot while Queen Chrysalis was running around as her. She spends her ''wedding day'' locked in a cave underneath Canterlot. If By the ''heartbreak'' in her voice as time she sings her half of "This Day Aria" doesn't Aria", the heartbreak in her voice will make you want to hug her, you don't have a heart!her.
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Chrysalis being an ex of either is really stretching the trope here.


** Queen Chrysalis. Is she pure evil, a WellIntentionedExtremist and[=/=]or ObliviouslyEvil who just wanted to feed her people, Shining Armor (or [[LesYay Cadance]])'s ex, or something else?

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** Queen Chrysalis. Is she pure evil, or a WellIntentionedExtremist and[=/=]or ObliviouslyEvil who just wanted to feed her people, Shining Armor (or [[LesYay Cadance]])'s ex, or something else?people?
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* EvilIsSexy: Queen Chrysalis given that she [[EmotionEater needs (to consume) love to survive]], [[ShapeshiftersDoItForAChange can become literally anyone you can think of]], and the similarities to both [[HornyDevils succubi]] and [[VampiresAreSexGods certain vampires]], it's no wonder that there's been an explosion of 'sexy Chrysalis' art online.

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* EvilIsSexy: Queen Chrysalis given that she [[EmotionEater needs (to consume) love to survive]], [[ShapeshiftersDoItForAChange can become literally anyone you can think of]], and the similarities to both [[HornyDevils [[SuccubiAndIncubi succubi]] and [[VampiresAreSexGods certain vampires]], it's no wonder that there's been an explosion of 'sexy Chrysalis' art online.
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* FanNickname: ''[[Film/BattleLosAngeles Equestria Invasion: Battle Canterlot]]''.
** "Cheeselegs" for Queen Chrysalis.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Chrysalis. She has just used the power of Shining Armor's love for Cadence to subdue Celestia, yet she scoffs when Cadence says that "[her] love will give [Shining Armor] the strength" to renew his repelling spell against the Changelings.
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MEH Cleanup. Was shockingly evil but lacked the shift in portrayal to irredeemable as she had yet to established her character. Latter MEH, there can be only one, fits better as it invalidates the well-intentions to feed her subjects and shifted her portrayal to irredeemable in a very forgiving series.


* MoralEventHorizon: Queen Chrysalis leaving Twilight imprisoned under Canterlot in caves no pony even ''remembers exist'' and she'll likely ''never'' be found, while taunting her sadistically about that fact. It's also more or less implied that she was taunting Twilight to get her to kill the real Cadance.
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Cleanup. Crosses over legit ACI (plausible/consistent with what's shown) to OOC character bashing.


%% ** For [[TheCynic the cynical bronies]], are Twilight's friends, brother, and mentor sincerely remorseful on what they've done, or is it a cover-up? Some people considered the former based on how things are in season 3, but for others who considered that the only person who apologized was Applejack and Celestia's form of apology can look suspicious, they tend to say they they are saving their own flanks. Conversely, when Twilight [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives]] them, is she being a true friend who'd rather TurnTheOtherCheek than hold a grudge, or [[RageBreakingPoint bottling]] [[RestrainedRevenge in?]] Or perhaps she took her anger out when she was fighting the Changelings, who turned into her friends...
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Cleanup. Ignoring all the context, including the proceeding fight that was the most epic thing the series had up to that point, that made it climatic despite. Quick and one sided does not necessarily make it anticlimactic.


* AntiClimaxBoss: All it takes is Shining Armour and Cadance tapping their horns together to effortlessly perform a spell that banishes Chrysalis and her subjects.
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* SignatureScene: The "This Day Aria" sequence, as it gave us what many fans consider to be one of the best songs in the series.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: All it takes is Shining Armour and Cadance tapping their horns together to effortlessly perform a spell that banishes Chrysalis and her subjects.
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** There are ''many'' "X is really a Changeling" stories out there, based on the premise of a given character being in truth a channeling in disguise and this being revealed to everyone during the episode's climax by the "love explosion".

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** There are ''many'' "X is really a Changeling" stories out there, based on the premise of a given character being in truth a channeling Changeling in disguise and this being revealed to everyone during the episode's climax by the "love explosion".
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* NeverLiveItDown: Princess Celestia being [[TheWorfEffect easily defeated]], which prompts some viewers to see how useless Celestia was in the episode. Even though Chrysalis's powers was fueled by Shining Armor's love, and even the Changeling Queen herself was surprised for it.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Princess Celestia being [[TheWorfEffect easily defeated]], which prompts some viewers to see how useless Celestia was in the episode. Even though Chrysalis's powers power was fueled by Shining Armor's love, and even the Changeling Queen herself was surprised for by it.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: [[BrokenBase Controversy on the episodes overall quality aside]], this finale was considered a game changer by many at the time of its release as it was not only the first big 2-Part finale, but it also dropped the SliceOfLife setup seen in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver The Best Night Ever]] in favor of the more traditional heroes vs. villains scenario that was only exclusive to the season premieres. 7 seasons later, this concept continued on for every season finale except for Season 3 that many newcomers find it hard to understand what made it such a big deal back in 2012.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: [[BrokenBase Controversy on the episodes episodes' overall quality aside]], this finale was considered a game changer by many at the time of its release as it was not only the first big 2-Part finale, but it also dropped the SliceOfLife setup seen in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver The Best Night Ever]] in favor of the more traditional heroes vs. villains scenario that was only exclusive to the season premieres. 7 seasons later, this concept continued on for every season finale except for Season 3 that many newcomers find it hard to understand what made it such a big deal back in 2012.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The show's infamous usage of TheWorfEffect and MilitariesAreUseless pretty much started here, but had [[CurbStompCushion enough mitigating circumstances]] (everyone being caught off guard, Celestia [[WorfHadTheFlu only losing due to circumstance]] even the villain was surprised by, the Mane Six putting up a good fight before [[ZergRush being overwhelmed]].) So it was mostly well received despite these flaws, especially since any actions was a pleasant surprise. Later episodes would have action as the expectation, coupled with pushing credible ways [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil of upping the threat]], would make these contrivances far more common and contintious.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The show's infamous usage of TheWorfEffect and MilitariesAreUseless pretty much started here, but had [[CurbStompCushion enough mitigating circumstances]] (everyone being caught off guard, Celestia [[WorfHadTheFlu only losing due to circumstance]] even the villain was surprised by, the Mane Six putting up a good fight before [[ZergRush being overwhelmed]].) So it was mostly well received despite these flaws, especially since any actions action was a pleasant surprise. Later episodes would have action as the expectation, coupled with pushing credible ways [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil of upping the threat]], would make these contrivances far more common and contintious.contentious.
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Why would it be a cover-up?


** For [[TheCynic the cynical bronies]], are Twilight's friends, brother, and mentor sincerely remorseful on what they've done, or is it a cover-up? Some people considered the former based on how things are in season 3, but for others who considered that the only person who apologized was Applejack and Celestia's form of apology can look suspicious, they tend to say they they are saving their own flanks. Conversely, when Twilight [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives]] them, is she being a true friend who'd rather TurnTheOtherCheek than hold a grudge, or [[RageBreakingPoint bottling]] [[RestrainedRevenge in?]] Or perhaps she took her anger out when she was fighting the Changelings, who turned into her friends...

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%% ** For [[TheCynic the cynical bronies]], are Twilight's friends, brother, and mentor sincerely remorseful on what they've done, or is it a cover-up? Some people considered the former based on how things are in season 3, but for others who considered that the only person who apologized was Applejack and Celestia's form of apology can look suspicious, they tend to say they they are saving their own flanks. Conversely, when Twilight [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives]] them, is she being a true friend who'd rather TurnTheOtherCheek than hold a grudge, or [[RageBreakingPoint bottling]] [[RestrainedRevenge in?]] Or perhaps she took her anger out when she was fighting the Changelings, who turned into her friends...
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** There is a small upcoming of fanfics that [[AccusationFic call out]] the Ponies for their shunning of Twilight (or in some cases, Twilight for her jerkass behavior). Some of the more popular ones include ''{{Fanfic/Bitterness}},'' ''[[Fanfic/TheNuptialverse Post Nuptials]],'' and ''Fanfic/FaithAndDoubt.''

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** There is a small upcoming of fanfics that [[AccusationFic call out]] the Ponies for their shunning of Twilight (or in some cases, Twilight for her jerkass behavior). Some of the more popular ones include ''{{Fanfic/Bitterness}},'' ''[[Fanfic/TheNuptialverse Post Nuptials]],'' ''Fanfic/FaithAndDoubt,'' and ''Fanfic/FaithAndDoubt.''Fanfic/LovedAndLost.''
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* ItWasHisSled: It’s become pretty well known that Cadance was kidnapped and being impersonated by a shapeshifter. The fact that “This Day Aria”, which makes it very clear what’s going on, is the most famous thing from the episode may be to blame.
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Ron The Death Eater is a Fanfic Trope, meaning unless the description specifically applies to portrayals in fanworks, its Trope Misuse.


* RonTheDeathEater: According to some fans, repelling an invasion that was spearheaded by the leader committing MindRape whose dream since childhood is to see Canterlot burn to the ground counts as unprovoked racist genocide against an innocent, peaceful race.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The show's infamous usage of TheWorfEffect and MilitariesAreUseless pretty much started here, but had [[CurbStompCushion enough mitigating circumstances]] (everyone being caught off guard, Celestia [[WorfHadTheFlu only losing due to circumstance]] even the villain was surprised by, the Mane Six putting up a good fight before [[ZergRush being overwhelmed]]. So it was mostly well received despite these flaws, especially since any actions was a pleasant surprise. Later episodes would have action as the expectation, coupled with pushing credible ways [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil of upping the threat]], would make these contrivances far more common and contintious.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The show's infamous usage of TheWorfEffect and MilitariesAreUseless pretty much started here, but had [[CurbStompCushion enough mitigating circumstances]] (everyone being caught off guard, Celestia [[WorfHadTheFlu only losing due to circumstance]] even the villain was surprised by, the Mane Six putting up a good fight before [[ZergRush being overwhelmed]]. ) So it was mostly well received despite these flaws, especially since any actions was a pleasant surprise. Later episodes would have action as the expectation, coupled with pushing credible ways [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil of upping the threat]], would make these contrivances far more common and contintious.
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* CatharsisFactor: For anyone who was upset about Celestia and the other Mane Six walking out on Twilight for having warned them that all was not right with Cadance, it is rather satisfying when Chrysalis gloats to the lot of them about how easily she was able to fool them even after Twilight had attempted to warn them of her suspicious behavior.
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* MisaimedFandom: Queen Chrysalis may have been trying to feed her subjects, but many overlook that this was presented as a throwaway detail compared to the harm and evildoing they caused, her numerous acts of cruelty and jerkassery irrelevant and detrimental to her supposedly sympathetic goals, nor had a given reason they couldn't peacefully acquire love to feed on. Many praise Chrysalis for calling out Twilight's friends for abandoning her which, [[VillainHasAPoint while not incorrect]], ignores [[{{Hypocrite}} Chrysalis was the one who manipulated them into abandoning Twilight]] and this was her [[KickTheDog just rubbing it in their faces]] as opposed to any regard for Twilight.

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* MisaimedFandom: Queen Chrysalis may have been trying to feed her subjects, but many overlook that this was presented as a throwaway detail compared to the harm and evildoing they caused, her numerous acts of cruelty and jerkassery irrelevant and detrimental to her supposedly sympathetic goals, nor had a given reason they couldn't peacefully acquire love to feed on. Many praise Chrysalis for calling out Twilight's friends for abandoning dismissing her warnings which, [[VillainHasAPoint while not incorrect]], ignores [[{{Hypocrite}} Chrysalis was the one who manipulated them into abandoning dismissing Twilight]] and this was her [[KickTheDog just rubbing it in their faces]] as opposed to any regard for Twilight.
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* MisaimedFandom: Queen Chrysalis may have been trying to feed her subjects, but many overlook that this was presented as a throwaway detail compared to the harm and evildoing they caused, her numerous acts of cruelty and jerkassery irrelevant and detrimental to her supposedly sympathetic goals, nor a given reason they couldn't peacefully acquire love to feed on.

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* MisaimedFandom: Queen Chrysalis may have been trying to feed her subjects, but many overlook that this was presented as a throwaway detail compared to the harm and evildoing they caused, her numerous acts of cruelty and jerkassery irrelevant and detrimental to her supposedly sympathetic goals, nor had a given reason they couldn't peacefully acquire love to feed on.on. Many praise Chrysalis for calling out Twilight's friends for abandoning her which, [[VillainHasAPoint while not incorrect]], ignores [[{{Hypocrite}} Chrysalis was the one who manipulated them into abandoning Twilight]] and this was her [[KickTheDog just rubbing it in their faces]] as opposed to any regard for Twilight.

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