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Jack being upstaged isn't really a reason to list him as a Designated Hero. He doesn't really do enough say he isn't "heroic" like the trope is meant for.


* DesignatedHero: Jack. Most of the crew's deaths can be traced back to his obsession with saving Ann, and all the while, he constantly gets upstaged by both the titular ape and [[spoiler:the snooty actor he didn't like.]] His decision to draw Kong away from Times Square probably causes more death and destruction than if he had just let him be. Averted in [[VideoGame/PeterJacksonsKingKong the game]] where he's the main protagonist, and his questionable actions are absent.
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* {{Narm}}: The film builds up to Skull Island being an absolutely evil and cursed place so much it becomes silly. First you have Carl whispering the name to Jack, who types out 'S-K-U-L-L' in extra slow motion, letter by letter, with the camera lingering on the word being formed while Preston looks on worriedly. Then Lumpy tells of a man who landed on the island's shores and killed himself by ''stabbing a knife in his heart'' the day after returning. Then Carl notices a screaming ape face on the crude map he has of the island, which magically flies out of his hands just as they crash into the island's coastline.
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* AmbiguousSituation: According to The World of Kong, Skull Island sank like its fate in the classic sequel, dooming everything in the island to extinction. But in certain cut sequels and sources in the [[https://kingkong.fandom.com/wiki/King_Kong_Wiki Wiki]], the majority of the animals were saved from various expeditions before the island sank and was re-homed in nearby islands. Likewise, even if one were skeptical on the rumors, the World of Kong was written like a genuine zoological journal, which hints that these animals must have been captured and extensively studied to ensure that the amount of detail was accurate. As such, the fate of these nightmare animals is up in the air, but if they were captured and studied, then at the very least a small population of each species survived past the island's demise assuming they were rehoused in a zoo or a controlled environment.



* Main/{{Bowdlerise}}: Because of the film's length, it's often edited when airing on TV. While these mostly don't hurt the core story, they do add a few continuity problems and sometimes make scenes happen more suddenly; the scene in the chasm in particular has the solemn sequence of the survivors waking up and mourning their losses cut out almost entirely and creates the issue that the flare Jack uses to keep the bugs off them at first literally just appears out of nowhere and immediately fizzles out so that they can be attacked.



* FantasyCounterpartCulture: The Savage Natives of Skull Island seem to be a mish-mash of the Sentinelese Island Peoples (of India) and possibly some inspirartion from Black Oceanic peoples like Australain Aboringnes, Papua New Guinean natives and other Austronesian/Melanesians natives.
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* {{Padding}}/ SlowPacedBeginning: One of the major problems many have cited of the film was that many scenes went on for ''far'' too long, and its running time of over ''three hours'' wasn't really warranted. To be brutally honest, the movie's entire first hour can literally be skipped. If you turn it on at the scene where Ann is kidnapped by Kong, you will understand the rest of the film just fine ''despite not watching the entire first hour''; that's how superfluous it is to the overall story itself. It's nice to have backstory and motivations leading into the island expedition, but it's just excessive to a point that anyone with a short attention span really ought to simply start the film when they land on the island for the best viewing experience.

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* {{Padding}}/ SlowPacedBeginning: {{Padding}}: One of the major problems many have cited of the film was that many scenes went on for ''far'' too long, and its running time of over ''three hours'' wasn't really warranted. To be brutally honest, the movie's entire first hour can literally be skipped. If you turn it on at the scene where Ann is kidnapped by Kong, you will understand the rest of the film just fine ''despite not watching the entire first hour''; that's how superfluous it is to the overall story itself. It's nice to have backstory and motivations leading into the island expedition, but it's just excessive to a point that anyone with a short attention span really ought to simply start the film when they land on the island for the best viewing experience.warranted.



* SlowPacedBeginning: It takes over an hour before we see the titular ape.

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* SlowPacedBeginning: It takes over ''over an hour hour'' before we see the titular ape.ape. To be brutally honest, the movie's entire first hour can literally be skipped. If you turn it on at the scene where Ann is kidnapped by Kong, you will understand the rest of the film just fine ''despite not watching the entire first hour''; that's how superfluous it is to the overall story itself. It's nice to have backstory and motivations leading into the island expedition, but it's just excessive to a point that anyone with a short attention span really ought to simply start the film when they land on the island for the best viewing experience.
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* {{Padding}}/ ProlongedPrologue: One of the major problems many have cited of the film was that many scenes went on for ''far'' too long, and its running time of over ''three hours'' wasn't really warranted. To be brutally honest, the movie's entire first hour can literally be skipped. If you turn it on at the scene where Ann is kidnapped by Kong, you will understand the rest of the film just fine ''despite not watching the entire first hour''; that's how superfluous it is to the overall story itself. It's nice to have backstory and motivations leading into the island expedition, but it's just excessive to a point that anyone with a short attention span really ought to simply start the film when they land on the island for the best viewing experience.

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* {{Padding}}/ ProlongedPrologue: SlowPacedBeginning: One of the major problems many have cited of the film was that many scenes went on for ''far'' too long, and its running time of over ''three hours'' wasn't really warranted. To be brutally honest, the movie's entire first hour can literally be skipped. If you turn it on at the scene where Ann is kidnapped by Kong, you will understand the rest of the film just fine ''despite not watching the entire first hour''; that's how superfluous it is to the overall story itself. It's nice to have backstory and motivations leading into the island expedition, but it's just excessive to a point that anyone with a short attention span really ought to simply start the film when they land on the island for the best viewing experience.
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* {{Padding}}: One of the major problems many have cited of the film was that many scenes went on for ''far'' too long, and its running time of over ''three hours'' wasn't really warranted.

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* {{Padding}}: {{Padding}}/ ProlongedPrologue: One of the major problems many have cited of the film was that many scenes went on for ''far'' too long, and its running time of over ''three hours'' wasn't really warranted.warranted. To be brutally honest, the movie's entire first hour can literally be skipped. If you turn it on at the scene where Ann is kidnapped by Kong, you will understand the rest of the film just fine ''despite not watching the entire first hour''; that's how superfluous it is to the overall story itself. It's nice to have backstory and motivations leading into the island expedition, but it's just excessive to a point that anyone with a short attention span really ought to simply start the film when they land on the island for the best viewing experience.
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* DesignatedVillain: More like designated minor antagonist, the film tries to paint the actor Bruce who refuses to go into the ''dinosaur and giant monster infested island'' to go look for Ann as a coward instead of just being pragmatic. They have absolutely no way to navigate themselves around the island to search for her, are on a deadline to get back to the boat, are low on weapons and ammo, and by that point in the story, ''several members of the group have already been killed.'' It's not cowardly; it's practical that he refuses to be part of the rescue mission when nearly every odd is against them. And he's proven right when the rest of them go get Ann and most of them ''do'' in fact die. And some of them ''quite horribly'' too. See the nightmare-inducing bug sequence and then see if you agree with the movie calling this guy a coward.

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* DesignatedVillain: More like designated minor antagonist, but the film tries to paint the actor Bruce who refuses to go into the ''dinosaur and giant monster infested island'' to go look for Ann as a coward instead of just being pragmatic. They have absolutely no way to navigate themselves around the island to search for her, are on a deadline to get back to the boat, are low on weapons and ammo, and by that point in the story, ''several members of the group have already been killed.'' It's not cowardly; it's practical that he refuses to be part of the rescue mission when nearly every odd is against them. And he's proven right when the rest of them go get Ann and most of them ''do'' in fact die. And some of them ''quite horribly'' too. See the nightmare-inducing bug sequence and then see if you agree with the movie calling this guy a coward.
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* DesignatedVillain: More like designated minor antagonist, the film tries to paint the actor Bruce who refuses to go into the ''dinosaur and giant monster infested island'' to go look for Ann as a coward instead of just being pragmatic. They have absolutely no way to navigate themselves around the island to search for her, are on a deadline to get back to the boat, are low on weapons and ammo, and by that point in the story, ''several members of the group have already been killed.'' It's not cowardly; it's practical that he refuses to be part of the rescue mission when nearly every odd is against them. And he's proven right when the rest of them go get Ann and most of them ''do'' in fact die. And some of them ''quite horribly'' too. See the nightmare-inducing bug sequence and then see if you agree with the movie calling this guy a coward.
-->'''Bruce''': I'm just an actor with a gun who's lost his motivation. Be seeing you. ''(cue prompt exit)''
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* DesignatedHero: Jack. Most of the crew's deaths can be traced back to his obsession with saving Ann, and all the while, he constantly gets upstaged by both the titular ape and [[spoiler:the snooty actor he didn't like.]] His decision to draw Kong away from Times Square probably causes more death and destruction than if he had just let him be.

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* DesignatedHero: Jack. Most of the crew's deaths can be traced back to his obsession with saving Ann, and all the while, he constantly gets upstaged by both the titular ape and [[spoiler:the snooty actor he didn't like.]] His decision to draw Kong away from Times Square probably causes more death and destruction than if he had just let him be. Averted in [[VideoGame/PeterJacksonsKingKong the game]] where he's the main protagonist, and his questionable actions are absent.

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* AmbiguousSituation: According to The World of Kong, Skull Island sank like its fate in the classic sequel, dooming everything in the island to extinction. But in certain cut sequels and sources in the [[https://kingkong.fandom.com/wiki/King_Kong_Wiki Wiki]], the majority of the animals were saved from various expeditions before the island sank and was re-homed in nearby islands. As such, the fate of these nightmare animals is up in the air.

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* AmbiguousSituation: According to The World of Kong, Skull Island sank like its fate in the classic sequel, dooming everything in the island to extinction. But in certain cut sequels and sources in the [[https://kingkong.fandom.com/wiki/King_Kong_Wiki Wiki]], the majority of the animals were saved from various expeditions before the island sank and was re-homed in nearby islands. Likewise, even if one were skeptical on the rumors, the World of Kong was written like a genuine zoological journal, which hints that these animals must have been captured and extensively studied to ensure that the amount of detail was accurate. As such, the fate of these nightmare animals is up in the air.air, but if they were captured and studied, then at the very least a small population of each species survived past the island's demise assuming they were rehoused in a zoo or a controlled environment.
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* AmbiguousSituation: According to The World of Kong, Skull Island sank like its fate in the classic sequel, dooming everything in the island to extinction. But in certain cut sequels and sources in the [[https://kingkong.fandom.com/wiki/King_Kong_Wiki Wiki]], the majority of the animals were saved from various expeditions before the island sank and was re-homed in nearby islands. As such, the fate of these nightmare animals is up in the air.

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* QuestionableCasting: Creator/JackBlack, an almost exclusively comedic actor, in the serious role of Carl Denham, though his performance is enjoyed by some.



* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/JackBlack, an almost exclusively comedic actor, in the serious role of Carl Denham, though his performance is enjoyed by some.
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** Although they probably aren’t as popular as the two characters above, ActionSurvivor Preston, Camereman Herb (for his professionalism and kind, loyal nature) Lumpy (for being one of the more colorful members of the rescue party), Hayes, and Jimmy all have their fans.

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** Although they probably aren’t as popular as the two characters above, ActionSurvivor Preston, Camereman cameraman Herb (for his professionalism and kind, loyal nature) nature), Lumpy (for being one of the more colorful members of the rescue party), Hayes, and Jimmy all have their fans.
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The movie's official tie-in game, ''VideoGame/PeterJacksonsKingKong'', is considered to be one of the best movie licensed games out there, a perfectly solid and enjoyable FPS which recreates Skull Island with frightening accuracy, and also has 3rd person brawler sequences where you get to play as Kong himself. [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames Pity about the DS version, though.]]
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Not only are wetas real, but they do actually grow to be quite large by insect standards, though nowhere near as big as the ones in the film, nor are they particularly aggressive.
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* FantasyCultureCounterpart: The Savage Natives of Skull Island seem to be a mish-mash of the Sentinelese Island Peoples (of India) and possibly some inspirartion from Black Oceanic peoples like Australain Aboringnes, Papua New Guinean natives and other Austronesian/Melanesians natives.

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* FantasyCultureCounterpart: FantasyCounterpartCulture: The Savage Natives of Skull Island seem to be a mish-mash of the Sentinelese Island Peoples (of India) and possibly some inspirartion from Black Oceanic peoples like Australain Aboringnes, Papua New Guinean natives and other Austronesian/Melanesians natives.
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* FantasyCultureCounterpart: The Savage Natives of Skull Island seem to be a mish-mash of the Sentinelese Island Peoples (of India) and possibly some inspirartion from Black Oceanic peoples like Australain Aboringnes, Papua New Guinean natives and other Austronesian/Melanesians natives.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Did the Skull Islanders start an unprovoked attack on the filming crew, or did they misinterpret Carl trying to [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything feed chocolate to the native child]] as an offensive tactic and attacked defensively?

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Did the Skull Islanders start an unprovoked attack on the filming crew, or did they misinterpret Carl trying to [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything feed chocolate to the native child]] as an offensive tactic and attacked defensively?

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* DesignatedHero: Jack. Most of the crew's deaths can be traced back to his obsession with saving Ann, and all the while, he constantly gets upstaged by both the titular ape and [[spoiler:the snooty actor he didn't like.]] His decision to draw Kong away from Times Square probably causes more death and destruction than if he had just let him be. Averted in the game, where his more questionable actions are absent.
* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: Peter Jackson has stated that ''Film/KingKong1933'' is his favourite film and what inspired him to get into filmmaking, and it really shows with the work put into this film (he even accepted the initial directing role for the remake because he was afraid someone else would do a bad job with it).
** The film greatly expanded upon many scenes and backstories of characters, even including the "spider pit" scene that was cut from the 1933 movie, with the extended cut being '''twice as long'' as the original film.
** He and his film crew attempted to restore the lost "spider pit" sequence from the original as closely as possible using the same type of equipment and style of filming based on the script and only surviving still of the scene. When Warner Bros. was going to put the scene on the original films [=DVD=], Jackson made it clear that it should be a special feature and not inserted into the film itself, stating he didn’t want to put his fingerprints on the original.
** In the DVD special features, there are two short documentaries, one real documentary about New York during the 1930s, and a fake one about the natural history of Skull Island (but both presented in the same manner). A tie-in book, ''The World of Kong: A Natural History of Skull Island'' was also published chronicling the many species that live on the island and their evolution, including many not shown in the film.
** The film's ultimate budget ended up being a then record-breaking 273 million USD (not including a 34 million dollar subsidy from the New Zealand and a further 60 million dollars in marketing).

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* DesignatedHero: Jack. Most of the crew's deaths can be traced back to his obsession with saving Ann, and all the while, he constantly gets upstaged by both the titular ape and [[spoiler:the snooty actor he didn't like.]] His decision to draw Kong away from Times Square probably causes more death and destruction than if he had just let him be. Averted in the game, where his more questionable actions are absent.\n* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: Peter Jackson has stated that ''Film/KingKong1933'' is his favourite film and what inspired him to get into filmmaking, and it really shows with the work put into this film (he even accepted the initial directing role for the remake because he was afraid someone else would do a bad job with it).\n** The film greatly expanded upon many scenes and backstories of characters, even including the "spider pit" scene that was cut from the 1933 movie, with the extended cut being '''twice as long'' as the original film.\n** He and his film crew attempted to restore the lost "spider pit" sequence from the original as closely as possible using the same type of equipment and style of filming based on the script and only surviving still of the scene. When Warner Bros. was going to put the scene on the original films [=DVD=], Jackson made it clear that it should be a special feature and not inserted into the film itself, stating he didn’t want to put his fingerprints on the original.\n** In the DVD special features, there are two short documentaries, one real documentary about New York during the 1930s, and a fake one about the natural history of Skull Island (but both presented in the same manner). A tie-in book, ''The World of Kong: A Natural History of Skull Island'' was also published chronicling the many species that live on the island and their evolution, including many not shown in the film.\n** The film's ultimate budget ended up being a then record-breaking 273 million USD (not including a 34 million dollar subsidy from the New Zealand and a further 60 million dollars in marketing).
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the film has amazing effects for the most part, the ''Brontosaurus'' chase sequence is quite obvious green screen, and the actors look incredibly out of place when running alongside the dinosaurs. Some of the interactions between the CGI and real world elements, like Kong during his rampage in New York and picking up the Ann lookalikes, have also not held up well to scrutiny over the years.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: SpecialEffectFailure: While the film has amazing effects for the most part, the ''Brontosaurus'' chase sequence is quite obvious green screen, and the actors look incredibly out of place when running alongside the dinosaurs. Some of the interactions between the CGI and real world elements, like Kong during his rampage in New York and picking up the Ann lookalikes, have also not held up well to scrutiny over the years.

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** Although they probably aren’t as popular as the two characters above, ActionSurvivor Preston, Camereman Herb (for his professionalism and kind, loyal nature) Lumpy (for being one of the more colorful members of the rescue party, Hayes, and Jimmy all have their fans.

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** Although they probably aren’t as popular as the two characters above, ActionSurvivor Preston, Camereman Herb (for his professionalism and kind, loyal nature) Lumpy (for being one of the more colorful members of the rescue party, party), Hayes, and Jimmy all have their fans.


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* HoYay: Lumpy and Choy get hit with a fair bit of this by the fandom.
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** Did Bruce Baxter insist on Englehorn rescuing Jack and co, assisting in said rescue, out of pure altruism? Or was it simply to prove Driscoll wrong after he'd, more or less, labelled Bruce [[DirtyCoward a pussy]] when Baxter was asking others to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere bail with him earlier]]?
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* Main/{{Bowdlerise}}: because of the film's length, it's often edited when airing on TV. While these mostly don't hurt the core story, they do add a few continuity problems and sometimes make scenes happen more suddenly; the scene in the chasm in particular has the solemn sequence of the survivors waking up and mourning their losses cut out almost entirely and creates the issue that the flare Jack uses to keep the bugs off them at first literally just appears out of nowhere and immediately fizzles out so that they can be attacked.

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* Main/{{Bowdlerise}}: because Because of the film's length, it's often edited when airing on TV. While these mostly don't hurt the core story, they do add a few continuity problems and sometimes make scenes happen more suddenly; the scene in the chasm in particular has the solemn sequence of the survivors waking up and mourning their losses cut out almost entirely and creates the issue that the flare Jack uses to keep the bugs off them at first literally just appears out of nowhere and immediately fizzles out so that they can be attacked.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Downplayed. While he does appear to show remorse for using Jack and Ann to lure Kong into a trap set by the crew, Denham still has no issue with putting their lives at stake just to ensure that the creature keeps up with the duo and is very much willing to sacrifice the entire crew to ensure Kong's capture. Ultimately, he is the indirect cause of Kong's rampage in New York.
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* Main/{{Bowdlerise}}: because of the film's length, it's often edited when airing on TV. While these mostly don't hurt the core story, they do add a few continuity problems and sometimes make scenes happen more suddenly; the scene in the chasm in particular has the solemn sequence of the survivors waking up and mourning their losses cut out almost entirely and creates the issue that the flare Jack uses to keep the bugs off them at first literally just appears out of nowhere and immediately fizzles out so that they can be attacked.
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* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: Peter Jackson has stated that ''Film/KingKong1933'' is his favourite film and what inspired him to get into filmmaking, and it really shows with the work put into this film (he even accepted the initial directing role for the remake because he was afraid someone else would do a bad job with it).
** The film greatly expanded upon many scenes and backstories of characters, even including the "spider pit" scene that was cut from the 1933 movie, with the extended cut being '''twice as long'' as the original film.
** He and his film crew attempted to restore the lost "spider pit" sequence from the original as closely as possible using the same type of equipment and style of filming based on the script and only surviving still of the scene. When Warner Bros. was going to put the scene on the original films [=DVD=], Jackson made it clear that it should be a special feature and not inserted into the film itself, stating he didn’t want to put his fingerprints on the original.
** In the DVD special features, there are two short documentaries, one real documentary about New York during the 1930s, and a fake one about the natural history of Skull Island (but both presented in the same manner). A tie-in book, ''The World of Kong: A Natural History of Skull Island'' was also published chronicling the many species that live on the island and their evolution, including many not shown in the film.
** The film's ultimate budget ended up being a then record-breaking 273 million USD (not including a 34 million dollar subsidy from the New Zealand and a further 60 million dollars in marketing).
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the film has amazing effects for the most part, the ''Brontosaurus'' chase sequence is quite obvious green screen, and the actors look incredibly out of place when running alongside the dinosaurs.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the film has amazing effects for the most part, the ''Brontosaurus'' chase sequence is quite obvious green screen, and the actors look incredibly out of place when running alongside the dinosaurs. Some of the interactions between the CGI and real world elements, like Kong during his rampage in New York and picking up the Ann lookalikes, have also not held up well to scrutiny over the years.
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** Although they probably aren’t as popular as the two characters above, ActionSurvivor Preston, Camereman Herb (for his professionalism and kind, loyal nature) and Lumpy (for being one of the more colorful members of the resuce party) all have their fans.

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** Although they probably aren’t as popular as the two characters above, ActionSurvivor Preston, Camereman Herb (for his professionalism and kind, loyal nature) and Lumpy (for being one of the more colorful members of the resuce party) rescue party, Hayes, and Jimmy all have their fans.

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