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* MagnificentBastard: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being successful on carrying out her son's mission]].

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* MagnificentBastard: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] Tooru and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being successful on carrying out her son's mission]].

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** [[spoiler:[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureToru Toru]]]] is [[TheDogWasTheMastermind the true mastermind]] of the Locacaca Organization and [[SiliconBasedLife Rock Humans]] of Morioh. An improbably old entity who has cultivated the [[EquivalentExchange Locacaca fruit]] and used it to experiment on and profit off of hapless victims for decades, [[spoiler:Toru]] would stalk and groom Yasuho since childhood for the purposes of both using her Stand, and disturbingly seducing her for fun. Using his organization and a nightmarish guardrail creature to murder dozens of people who stumble onto his operation over the years while coldly disposing of or abandoning his own allies when it suits him, [[spoiler:Toru]] uses his Stand, [[spoiler:Wonder of U]], to murder the parents of Rai Mamezuku, a reporter investigating him, and plenty of unsuspecting bystanders who get caught up in its effects. When confronted by the heroes, [[spoiler:Toru]] [[HeroKiller orchestrates the deaths]] of [[spoiler:Rai, Kei, and Jobin]] while endangering [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJoJolionTheHigashikataFamily the entire Higashikata family]], and tries to [[spoiler:sacrifice Yasuho]] to save his own life. [[spoiler:Toru]] plans to flood the BlackMarket with Locacaca and sit back as its effects throw the world into chaos, leaving only himself to rise above the ashes of upheaval as [[AGodAmI a supreme being]], caring only for his power base and belief that his memories will be all that is left of humanity when he is through.

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** [[spoiler:[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureToru [[spoiler:[[BewareTheSillyOnes Toru]]]] is [[TheDogWasTheMastermind the true mastermind]] of the Locacaca Organization and [[SiliconBasedLife Rock Humans]] of Morioh. An improbably old entity who has cultivated the [[EquivalentExchange Locacaca fruit]] and used it to experiment on and profit off of hapless victims for decades, [[spoiler:Toru]] would stalk and groom Yasuho since childhood for the purposes of both using her Stand, and disturbingly seducing her for fun. Using his organization and a nightmarish guardrail creature to murder dozens of people who stumble onto his operation over the years while coldly disposing of or abandoning his own allies when it suits him, [[spoiler:Toru]] uses his Stand, [[spoiler:Wonder of U]], to murder the parents of Rai Mamezuku, a reporter investigating him, and plenty of unsuspecting bystanders who get caught up in its effects. When confronted by the heroes, [[spoiler:Toru]] [[HeroKiller orchestrates the deaths]] of [[spoiler:Rai, Kei, and Jobin]] while endangering [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJoJolionTheHigashikataFamily the entire Higashikata family]], and tries to [[spoiler:sacrifice Yasuho]] to save his own life. [[spoiler:Toru]] plans to flood the BlackMarket with Locacaca and sit back as its effects throw the world into chaos, leaving only himself to rise above the ashes of upheaval as [[AGodAmI a supreme being]], caring only for his power base and belief that his memories will be all that is left of humanity when he is through.
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* MagnificentBitch: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being successful on carrying out her son's mission]].

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* MagnificentBitch: MagnificentBastard: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being successful on carrying out her son's mission]].
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* IKnewIt: Many correctly assumed that Fumi was [[spoiler:the new continuity's version of Joseph Joestar]].
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this is talking about of a waste of concept rather than josuke himself, as well as disliking how he progressed. either way, not an example


** Many fans even argue that Josuke ''himself'' was wasted, as his ability, Soft & Wet, had the ability to steal literal concepts from other people via soap "bubbles." However, as the manga progressed, Josuke limited his uses for it and began to just simply use the bubbles themselves to deal physical damage against his foes. Many also dislike that he lost his goofy personality as the story went on and became more serious.
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* MagnificentBitch: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being succesful on carrying out her son's mission]].

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* MagnificentBitch: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being succesful successful on carrying out her son's mission]].

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* PortmanteauCoupleName: Josuke ([[FanNickname Gappy]])/Yasuho = Yasugap.

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* FandomSpecificPlot: Kira and Josefumi both being alive and raising Josuke as their child.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being succesful on carrying out her son's mission]].

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* MagnificentBastard: MagnificentBitch: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being succesful on carrying out her son's mission]].
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** Josuke, just like his [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable original counterpart]]. {{Cloudcuckoolander}}? Check. Obsession with measurements? Check. Strange habits such as sleeping ''under'' the mattress because the weight of the mattress makes him comfortable? Check. High intellect? Check. An abysmal grasp of common sense caused by the fact that [[AmnesiacHero he doesn't have any memories]]? Checkmate.

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** Josuke, just like his [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable original counterpart]]. {{Cloudcuckoolander}}? Check. Obsession Josuke is a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} with measurements? Check. Strange habits strange behaviors and personality traits such as being obsessed with measurements and sleeping ''under'' under the mattress because the weight of the mattress makes him comfortable? Check. High intellect? Check. An abysmal grasp mattress. His lack of common sense caused by the fact that [[AmnesiacHero he doesn't have any memories]]? Checkmate.due to being an AmnesiacHero often makes him come across as goofy in a cute way.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Joshu is a divisive character, with some hating him for being an asshole and some loving him for the same reason, but a small subset of fans defend his actions due to him being the TheUnfavourite and ButtMonkey of the family and his occasional heroic actions. However, these defenders will sometimes ignore his selfish motivations and awful actions like his creepy behavior towards Yasuho, instead understanding him as misunderstood.

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Discussed here, Joshu may be widely hated, but he also has a lot of defenders who genuinely enjoy him as a character.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: The BigBad was a huge mystery for most of ''[=JoJolion=]'''s run, so the revelation of their identity was far from universally beloved. [[spoiler:Many people didn't like Toru as the main villain with complaints such as him being introduced too late, his much less menacing design compared to other main villains, and that he is such a major HeroKiller who offs so many beloved characters before they really have a chance to shine and thus being the character most responsible for a lot of this part's TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter reactions. However, there are also some who like him precisely because of his mysterious background and motivation and his exceptionally memorable, dangerous Stand.]]

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** Joshu Higashikata is often hated for his ugly appearance and perverted, possessive behavior (especially towards Yasuho), which many readers find cringe-inducing at best and outright disturbing at worst. Despite this, he also has plenty of defenders, who either LoveToHate, or just plain love him, and find his {{Jerkass}} antics entertaining rather than annoying.
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The BigBad was a huge mystery for most of ''[=JoJolion=]'''s run, so the revelation of their identity was far from universally beloved. [[spoiler:Many people didn't like Toru as the main villain with complaints such as him being introduced too late, his much less menacing design compared to other main villains, and that he is such a major HeroKiller who offs so many beloved characters before they really have a chance to shine and thus being the character most responsible for a lot of this part's TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter reactions. However, there are also some who like him precisely because of his mysterious background and motivation and his exceptionally memorable, dangerous Stand.]]



* TheScrappy: Joshu is widely hated for his ugly design as well as behavior that ranges from "spoiled brat" to "sexual predator", effectively making him a {{Yandere}} minus the {{Moe}} charm that makes that trope appealing. While it briefly seemed like he could be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap when he [[spoiler:offered to sacrifice himself to save Yasuho's life through equivalent exchange]], even that fell through when it turned out his true intentions in that moment were just as perverted and creepy as ever.
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* FanDislikedExplanation:
** Whilst they were initially described as being fairly incompatible with humans, yet with their own beliefs, bonds and desires, later descriptions and depictions of the Rock Humans described the entire race as villainous and morally bankrupt [[EcoTerrorist eco-warriors]] who are incapable of friendship and despise humanity at ''best.'' Asides from it ruling out the possibility of a Rock Human ally, many people felt it also completely ignored previous interactions we have seen Rock Humans perform, such as Yotsuyu comforting Aisho after his girlfriend cheated on him, and Dolomite sacrificing his health to save his blind girlfriend from danger.
** The initial explanation for Wonder of U's ability was relatively straightforward: if you try to pursue the head doctor, you will collide with an object and be injured. However, later explanations of the ability were much more complicated and confusing, with many fans preferring how the stand was originally portrayed.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[KnightTemplarParent Kaato Higashikata]] is the matriarch of the current genration of the [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureJojolionTheHigashikataFamily Higashikata Family]], and a vital part of developing the ambitious [[AntiVillain Jobin Higashikata]]. [[spoiler:Having covered up and later taking the fall for Jobin's AccidentalMurder of his own bully when he was a kid, she teached him into taking priority of his family over everything, which would lead him up into being involved with the Locacaca conspiracy to cure the family's curse, which involved the eldest son always being killed by a mysterious illness.]] Having served her time in jail, she makes it clear that she plans to take her reward for sacrificing so much for her family, often giving Jobin guidance with his plans. [[spoiler:In the final battle, after her son Jobin was killed, she steps up into the fight between [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureToru Tooru]] and the heroes by calmly bypassing the immaculately powerful "Wonder of U", holds him down, and uses the new version of the Locacaca to bypass the family's curse unto Tooru, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing him once and for all]]. Although she ends up killed by Tooru's power, she acknowledges it, and ends up being succesful on carrying out her son's mission]].
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** The "Every Day is a Summer Vacation" arc is usually called "Beetle Tendency" by fans, a pun on ''Manga/BattleTendency'' and the fact that it's about stag beetle fights.


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* SignatureSeriesArc: The most memorable story arc in this part is "Every Day is a Summer Vacation", better known by its FanNickname of "Beetle Tendency", due to its wildly out-there premise of fighting indirectly by betting on stag beetle fights.
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* MoralEventHorizon:
** Damo crossed it when he attempted to have Josefumi and Kira make a SadisticChoice by forcing one to betray the other for their lives.
** Dr. Wu having Mitsuba [[spoiler:unknowingly use her unborn child for EquivalentExchange]] would not necessarily have made him totally unforgivable on its own, since [[spoiler:the results of Equivalent Exchange are random]]. Rather, it's his dismissive reaction to realizing what he did, saying that it's not too bad since [[spoiler:the fetus was only 14 weeks old]], that crosses the line of redeemability.
** Jobin crossed it when [[spoiler:after killing Ojiro (which is somewhat justified, since he came for him and his son), he left his body in his (non-Stand user) girlfriend's pool, cell phone waiting to kill her as soon as she answered it. Her young daughter was a single second away from picking it up herself, [[WouldHurtAChild and Jobin had no real way of – or apparent interest in – preventing this random chance]]. He even tells the woman that he ''would'' have killed her child if she were a Stand user too]].
** [[spoiler:Toru]] might have already done it at various points, though most of it was due to the effects of Calamity influenced by his stand Wonder of U rather than him doing the deed directly. But he definitely crossed it when he attempts to [[spoiler:perform the EquivalentExchange on [[KickTheMoralityPet Yasuho]] to heal his own mangled body at the cost of hers]].

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** Damo crossed it when he attempted to have Josefumi and Kira make a SadisticChoice by forcing one to betray
MoralEventHorizon: See the other for their lives.
** Dr. Wu having Mitsuba [[spoiler:unknowingly use her unborn child for EquivalentExchange]] would not necessarily have made him totally unforgivable on its own, since [[spoiler:the results
dedicated section of Equivalent Exchange are random]]. Rather, it's his dismissive reaction to realizing what he did, saying that it's not too bad since [[spoiler:the fetus was only 14 weeks old]], that crosses the line of redeemability.
** Jobin crossed it when [[spoiler:after killing Ojiro (which is somewhat justified, since he came for him and his son), he left his body in his (non-Stand user) girlfriend's pool, cell phone waiting to kill her as soon as she answered it. Her young daughter was a single second away from picking it up herself, [[WouldHurtAChild and Jobin had no real way of – or apparent interest in – preventing
[[MoralEventHorizon/JoJosBizarreAdventure this random chance]]. He even tells the woman that he ''would'' have killed her child if she were a Stand user too]].
** [[spoiler:Toru]] might have already done it at various points, though most of it was due to the effects of Calamity influenced by his stand Wonder of U rather than him doing the deed directly. But he definitely crossed it when he attempts to [[spoiler:perform the EquivalentExchange on [[KickTheMoralityPet Yasuho]] to heal his own mangled body at the cost of hers]].
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The Stand's name is just Killer Queen; "Bites the Dust" is the name of the third bomb type the Stand can deploy.


** Tamaki Damo has a [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower seemingly harmless yet lethally effective Stand]] that he uses to effortlessly disable not only the entire Higashikata household, but NoSell [[spoiler:the part's iteration of Killer Queen Bites the Dust, which had been nigh-unstoppable in its Part 4 predecessor's debut]] with relative ease. Additionally, he has a charismatic mix of no-nonsense professionalism and [[LoveToHate gleeful sadism]], and nothing of his {{Gonk}} appearance detracts from his threat. It got to the point where they wished he and not [[spoiler:Toru]] was the actual BigBad of the part.

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** Tamaki Damo has a [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower seemingly harmless yet lethally effective Stand]] that he uses to effortlessly disable not only the entire Higashikata household, but NoSell [[spoiler:the part's iteration of Killer Queen Bites the Dust, Queen, which had been nigh-unstoppable in its Part 4 predecessor's debut]] with relative ease. Additionally, he has a charismatic mix of no-nonsense professionalism and [[LoveToHate gleeful sadism]], and nothing of his {{Gonk}} appearance detracts from his threat. It got to the point where they wished he and not [[spoiler:Toru]] was the actual BigBad of the part.

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