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** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. Largely connected to [[RealitySubtext some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]].

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** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, up to eleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. Largely connected to [[RealitySubtext some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]].
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Overlapping with SoBadItWasBetter: Originally the taboo-romance between Monk and Fistful was taboo enough to be blackmailable because... Relationships with Zehir are taboo for some reason (might be because bystanders can't tell what's in their pants by looking at them?) It already was a really odd and mindboggling choice and implication, but it's recently been changed to 'you can blackmail the characters over their relationship because their stereotypes don't mix commonly'. The original could have been spun into there being a genuine reason at least, but now it's just ... What.
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* FoeYay: Jury with the PC. The PC lingers over his looks at least once, some of their banter toes the line of flirtatious, with him calling them "cutie"/"stud", and at the end of the first game he sends them a shirtless photo of himself as a "taunt". The PC can even aggressively kiss him in the third game.
** Prodigal has been obsessively stalking the PC for years and has a shrine to them set up, even calling them her sole reason for living. For them, though, it's strictly NoYay, as they are understandably freaked out by her behavior.
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** Depending who you ask, Black Magic is either a flawed but ultimately sympathetic character who earns their redemption, or a creeperwho practically railroads the MC into becoming intimate with them and never faces any real consequences for [[spoiler:draining the life force of disabled people to enhance their powers.]]

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** Depending who you ask, Black Magic is either a flawed but ultimately sympathetic character who earns their redemption, or a creeperwho creeper who practically railroads the MC into becoming intimate with them and never faces any real consequences for [[spoiler:draining the life force of disabled people to enhance their powers.]]

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* {{Anvilicious}}: While possibly {{justified}} for reasons similar to [[Franchise/XMen another hero franchise]], the views on gender politics get a somewhat heavy-handed in-game discussion (see StopBeingStereotypical) in ''The Hero Project''.
** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. However, [[RealitySubtext given some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]], this might also qualify as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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While possibly {{justified}} for reasons similar to [[Franchise/XMen another hero franchise]], the views on gender politics get a somewhat heavy-handed in-game discussion (see StopBeingStereotypical) in ''The Hero Project''.
** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. However, Largely connected to [[RealitySubtext given some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]], this might also qualify as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.transitioned]][[/labelnote]].
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** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. However, [[RealitySubtext given some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[{{Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]], this might also qualify as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. However, [[RealitySubtext given some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[{{Transgender}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]], this might also qualify as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.
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* AuthorFilibuster: In Hero Project, ''you'' can choose to deliver one when confronted with the author's own {{Anvilicious}} LGBT AuthorFilibuster.



** Depending who you ask, Black Magic is either a flawed but ultimately sympathetic character who earns their redemption, or a creepy RelationshipSue who practically railroads the MC into becoming intimate with them and never faces any real consequences for [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon draining the life force of disabled people to enhance their powers.]]]]

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** Depending who you ask, Black Magic is either a flawed but ultimately sympathetic character who earns their redemption, or a creepy RelationshipSue who creeperwho practically railroads the MC into becoming intimate with them and never faces any real consequences for [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon draining [[spoiler:draining the life force of disabled people to enhance their powers.]]]]]]



* {{Flanderization}}: So, so many characters, most notably Prodigal. She's already a villain-sue and annoying to many, but the sequel takes away everything and turns her into a chicken-obsessed annoyance. And why? Because the author thought it's what the fans want.



** [[spoiler:Ultimately averted for both, however, as the chance to take their RelationshipUpgrade only comes after you stop being enemies.]]



** Related to StupidSacrifice below: No one on the team seems to have an idea about the villain who fired the missile. No one but producers, who were also, for some reason, coordinating the entire effort. And what did they also do, upon knowing there is a dangerous villain to face who can create heat-seeking missiles? They sent the only available ice-manipulator elsewhere. And apparently the entire thing is being broadcasted. How much damage and harm are thy willing to do for the ratings?

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** Related to StupidSacrifice below: No one on the team seems to have an idea about the villain who fired the missile. No one but producers, who were also, for some reason, coordinating the entire effort. And what did they also do, upon knowing there is a dangerous villain to face who can create heat-seeking missiles? They sent the only available ice-manipulator elsewhere. And apparently the entire thing is being broadcasted. How much damage and harm are thy willing to do for the ratings?



* GuideDangIt: Want to [[spoiler:[[GoldenEnding both save Miss Boss' life and get the final treatment needed to save JK?]]]] Well, hope you spent the game maxing out a stat that's ''completely unrelated'' to the situation at hand so your [[spoiler: cryptobiosis powers]] work as necessary to achieve said result. [[labelnote: More specifically...]]You need to have at least 80% in either your Societal stat, basically a meter that says how much you care about improving the lives of all Unrepresented Powers to achieve this ending.[[/labelnote]]



* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler:Miss Artillery]] in the third game. [[spoiler:Her]] purpose in the plot seems to be to die tragically so the MC gets angry enough to get their powers back.
* StupidSacrifice: Courtesy of [[spoiler:Rebellion]] in Open Season. Okay, so that missile can go through energy shields but does not nullify powers? Why could the atomkinetic/gravity manipulator that is the old MC not disarm it? Or why not disable it's rockets and fling it away? There had been dozens of possibilities, but no...
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** Depending who you ask, Black Magic is either a flawed but ultimately sympathetic character who earns their redemption, or a creepy RelationshipSue who practically railroads the MC into becoming intimate with them and never faces any real consequences for [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon draining the life force of disabled people to enhance their powers.]]]]
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* GuideDangIt: Want to [[spoiler:[[GoldenEnding both save Miss Boss' life and get the final treatment needed to save JK?]]]] Well, hope you spent the game maxing out a stat that's ''completely unrelated'' to the situation at hand so your [[spoiler: cryptobiosis powers]] work as necessary to achieve said result. [[labelnote: More specifically...]]You need to have at least 80% in either your Societal stat, basically a meter that says how much you care about improving the lives of all Unrepresented Powers, or Intangible stat, which grants stronger control of your forms' more subtle abilities, to achieve this ending.[[/labelnote]]

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* GuideDangIt: Want to [[spoiler:[[GoldenEnding both save Miss Boss' life and get the final treatment needed to save JK?]]]] Well, hope you spent the game maxing out a stat that's ''completely unrelated'' to the situation at hand so your [[spoiler: cryptobiosis powers]] work as necessary to achieve said result. [[labelnote: More specifically...]]You need to have at least 80% in either your Societal stat, basically a meter that says how much you care about improving the lives of all Unrepresented Powers, or Intangible stat, which grants stronger control of your forms' more subtle abilities, Powers to achieve this ending.[[/labelnote]]
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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler:Miss Artillery]] in the third game. [[spoiler:Her]] purpose in the plot seems to be to die tragically so the MC angry enough to get their powers back.

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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler:Miss Artillery]] in the third game. [[spoiler:Her]] purpose in the plot seems to be to die tragically so the MC gets angry enough to get their powers back.
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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler:Miss Artillery]] in the third game. [[spoiler:Her]] purpose in the plot seems to be to die tragically so the MC angry enough to get their powers back.
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** It loses a lot of impact, though once you realize in the end she's getting [[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridged]] for the sake of the protagonist getting their powers back. Booo.
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** Related to StupidSacrifice below: No one on the team seems to have an idea about the villain who fired the missile. No one but Weaver. Now, how would they get that intel when no one of the big teams has it? Well, look at who is coordinating the entire world-saving endeavor: Lyra, their aunt. And what did Lyra also do, upon knowing there is a dangerous villain to face who can create heat-seeking missiles? She sent the only available ice-manipulator elsewhere. And apparently the entire thing is being broadcasted. How much damage and harm is she willing to do for the ratings?

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** Related to StupidSacrifice below: No one on the team seems to have an idea about the villain who fired the missile. No one but Weaver. Now, how would they get that intel when no one of the big teams has it? Well, look at producers, who is were also, for some reason, coordinating the entire world-saving endeavor: Lyra, their aunt. effort. And what did Lyra they also do, upon knowing there is a dangerous villain to face who can create heat-seeking missiles? She They sent the only available ice-manipulator elsewhere. And apparently the entire thing is being broadcasted. How much damage and harm is she are thy willing to do for the ratings?
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** Related to StupidSacrifice below: No one on the team seems to have an idea about the villain who fired the missile. No one but Weaver. Now, how would they get that intel when no one of the big teams has it? Well, look at who is coordinating the entire world-saving endeavor: Lyra, their aunt. And what did Lyra also do, upon knowing there is a dangerous villain to face who can create heat-seeking missiles? She sent the only available ice-manipulator elsewhere. And apparently the entire thing is being broadcasted. How much damage and harm is she willing to do for the ratings?
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* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of Black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness. Or the ultimate good ending is 'all is good once everyone different moved unto a reservation and stays there'?

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* StupidSacrifice: Courtesy of [[spoiler:Rebellion]] in Open Season. Okay, so that missile can go through energy shields but does not nullify powers? Why could the atomkinetic/gravity manipulator that is the old MC not disarm it? Or why not disable it's rockets and fling it away? There had been dozens of possibilities, but no...



* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of Black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness. And who could forget the ultimate good ending is 'all is good once everyone different moved unto a reservation and stays there'?

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* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of Black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness. And who could forget Or the ultimate good ending is 'all is good once everyone different moved unto a reservation and stays there'?
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* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness. And who could forget the ultimate good ending is 'all is good once everyone different moved unto a reservation and stays there'?

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* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of black Black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness. And who could forget the ultimate good ending is 'all is good once everyone different moved unto a reservation and stays there'?
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* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness.

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* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness. And who could forget the ultimate good ending is 'all is good once everyone different moved unto a reservation and stays there'?
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* FridgeBrilliance: A lot of the {{Anvilicious}} {{AuthorTract}}s present in Redemption Season can actually be {{justified}} in that a lot of Reality TV contestants usually lie about or play up events in their life prior to being on the show to garner sympathy [[note]]A good example of which being Jonny Fairplay lying about his grandmother dying on season seven of {{Survivor}}[[/note]], which some of the contestants could be doing as well.

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* FridgeBrilliance: A lot of the {{Anvilicious}} {{AuthorTract}}s present in Redemption Season can actually be {{justified}} in that a lot of Reality TV contestants usually lie about or play up events in their life prior to being on the show to garner sympathy [[note]]A good example of which being Jonny Fairplay lying about his grandmother dying on season seven of {{Survivor}}[[/note]], ''Series/{{Survivor}}''[[/note]], which some of the contestants could be doing as well.
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*** Open Season manages to make it worse, railroading the player into certain choice and making it impossible to get the best ending without making the "good" choice.
*** There isn't really a "best ending". The endings are ALL the same, with only marginally different flavortext. Much worse is that one can literally end the game with 86 legend (enough to unlock the bonus chapter) by simply spamming the next button.
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* UnfortunateImplications: So many, that giving those their own subpage would be perfectly justified. From a never once positively portrayed stand-in for a extremely racist image of black people, over cis-hetero people being declared the foremost spokespeople for queer rights to all forms of disability being portrayed as a sign of irredeemable evilness.
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*** There isn't a "best ending" actually. The endings are ALL the same, with only marginally different flavortext. Much worse is that one can literally end the game with 86 legend (enough to unlock the bonus chapter) by simply spamming the next button.

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*** **** There isn't really a "best ending" actually.ending". The endings are ALL the same, with only marginally different flavortext. Much worse is that one can literally end the game with 86 legend (enough to unlock the bonus chapter) by simply spamming the next button.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Griffin from THP is ''named'' after the OC of a dang awesome artist who has done a lot of fanworks and illustrations for various games from the publisher. However, the ACTUAL Griffin is pretty much the polar opposite of what is seen in THP (kind, funny, helpful, quirky, and definitely not an aging white MRA going impotent), and the artist is not too happy about what th author did.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Griffin from THP is ''named'' after the OC of a dang awesome artist who has done a lot of fanworks and illustrations for various games from the publisher. However, the ACTUAL Griffin is pretty much the polar opposite of what is seen in THP (kind, (actual Griffin is kind, funny, helpful, quirky, and definitely not an aging white MRA going impotent), and the artist is not too happy about what th the author did.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Griffin from THP is ''named'' after the OC of a dang awesome artist who has done a lot of fanworks and illustrations for various games from the publisher. However, the ACTUAL Griffin is pretty much the polar opposite of what is seen in THP (kind, funny, helpful, quirky, and definitely not an aging white MRA going impotent), and the artist is not too happy about what th author did.
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**** There isn't a "best ending" actually. The endings are ALL the same, with only marginally different flavortext. Much worse is that one can literally end the game with 86 legend (enough to unlock the bonus chapter) by simply spamming the next button.
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*** Open Season manages to make it worse, railroading the player into certain choice and making it impossible to get the best ending without making the "good" choice.
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** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. However, [[RealitySubtext given some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[{{UsefulNotes/Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]], this might also qualify as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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** ''Redemption Season'' takes this UpToEleven, verging on AuthorTract regarding equality amongst Supers. However, [[RealitySubtext given some of the more controversial laws passed not long before the game released]][[labelnote:explanation]] North Carolina and Mississippi both passed laws forcing people to use the restroom of their assigned gender, even if they'd [[{{UsefulNotes/Transgender}} [[{{Transgender}} fully transitioned]][[/labelnote]], this might also qualify as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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* Flanderization: So, so many characters, most notably Prodigal. She's already a villain-sue and annoying to many, but the sequel takes away everything and turns her into a chicken-obsessed annoyance. And why? Because the author thought it's what the fans want.

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* Flanderization: {{Flanderization}}: So, so many characters, most notably Prodigal. She's already a villain-sue and annoying to many, but the sequel takes away everything and turns her into a chicken-obsessed annoyance. And why? Because the author thought it's what the fans want.


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* FridgeBrilliance: A lot of the {{Anvilicious}} {{AuthorTract}}s present in Redemption Season can actually be {{justified}} in that a lot of Reality TV contestants usually lie about or play up events in their life prior to being on the show to garner sympathy [[note]]A good example of which being Jonny Fairplay lying about his grandmother dying on season seven of {{Survivor}}[[/note]], which some of the contestants could be doing as well.

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