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* CriticalDissonance - The film is panned as a "flippant failure" in a {{Disney}}-authorized book, along with [[CultClassic Cult Classics]] ''AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' and ''TreasurePlanet''. Conversely, the film praises ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', which is generally considered the weakest of the Disney Renaissance, and in a WallBanger to end all Disney-related Wall Bangers, it praises ''Disney/ChickenLittle'' and '''''HomeOnTheRange''''', which are generally considered the two absolute [[OldShame worst]] entries in the canon. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And]] it completely neglects to mention how popular [[LoveToHate Hades]] is while praising possibly the least cool/menacing villain in the canon, Governor Radcliffe!
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* {{Adorkable}}: Herc himself fits this, especially as a youngster. Even as an adult, he's still sorta awkward.
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*** Either that or [[AwardBaitSong Go]] [[IWantSong the]] [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Distance]].
* HarsherInHindsight: "Grecian Express". [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%932011_Greek_protests Well, damn.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: "Grecian Express". [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%932011_Greek_protests Well, damn.]]
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* PragmaticVillainy: Hades main reason for wanting Hercules dead is a prophecy says he's TheChosenOne who'd defeat his scheme. Otherwise he'd have left him alone.
** This is further shown in the crossover with Aladdin. Here Hades doesn't take it ''personally'' when Aladdin first defeats Pain and Panic. Needless to say Jafar was shocked:
-->'''Jafar: '''"That's it? Aladdin ''humiliated'' you! Don't you want your {{Revenge}}?
-->'''Hades: '''"How about I ''[[TakeOverTheWorld rule the cosmos]]'' first, and ''then'' I'll take it?
** This is further shown in the crossover with Aladdin. Here Hades doesn't take it ''personally'' when Aladdin first defeats Pain and Panic. Needless to say Jafar was shocked:
-->'''Jafar: '''"That's it? Aladdin ''humiliated'' you! Don't you want your {{Revenge}}?
-->'''Hades: '''"How about I ''[[TakeOverTheWorld rule the cosmos]]'' first, and ''then'' I'll take it?
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* GeniusBonus: Many, for the Greek mythology buffs in the audience. But even in the background -- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRuoUGWoI8&feature=related at 1:20 of this song]] there's a reproduction of the famous statue, "[[TheBigDamnKiss Psyche Revived By the Kiss of Eros.]]"
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* GeniusBonus: Many, for the Greek mythology buffs in the audience. But even in the background -- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRuoUGWoI8&feature=related at 1:20 "Zero to Hero" is full of this song]] there's a reproduction of the half-second allusions to Hercules' Labors, famous statue, "[[TheBigDamnKiss Psyche Revived By the Kiss of Eros.]]"Greek (and Roman) art, as well as ancient Greek culture.
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** Some of the gods in the TV series have gotten a fan following, especially Aphrodite.
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* {{Adorkable}}: Herc himself fits this, especially as a youngster. Even as an adult, he's still sorta awkward.
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* PragmaticVillainy: Hades main reason for wanting Hercules dead is a prophecy says he's TheChosenOne who'd defeat his scheme. Otherwise he'd have left him alone.
** This is further shown in the crossover with Aladdin. Here Hades doesn't take it ''personally'' when Aladdin first defeats Pain and Panic. Needless to say Jafar was shocked:
-->'''Jafar: '''"That's it? Aladdin ''humiliated'' you! Don't you want your {{Revenge}}?
-->'''Hades: '''"How about I ''[[TakeOverTheWorld rule the cosmos]]'' first, and ''then'' I'll take it?
** This is further shown in the crossover with Aladdin. Here Hades doesn't take it ''personally'' when Aladdin first defeats Pain and Panic. Needless to say Jafar was shocked:
-->'''Jafar: '''"That's it? Aladdin ''humiliated'' you! Don't you want your {{Revenge}}?
-->'''Hades: '''"How about I ''[[TakeOverTheWorld rule the cosmos]]'' first, and ''then'' I'll take it?
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* NightmareFuel: The Fates share an eye between them. ''One. Single. Eye''.
** The Titans are so scary, they almost look like they were coming out of the screen.
** The Hydra: it's monstrous, no pun intended, and what makes it scarier is that it's like the one monster that gave Hercules trouble - even more than the titans, it was the only thing that came close to killing him.
** Meg is seen dying in agony and then shown clearly as dead as Disney can get away with on a G rating.
** Hercules' rescue of her soul showing his rapid aging gives both kids and adults nightmares.
** As if these two aforementioned examples weren't enough, the Fates attempting to cut [[DeathsHourglass both threads of life]] with scissors is enough to make viewers young and old cringe and hold their breaths in fright of what would happen. [[spoiler:The first time, they are successful in cutting Meg's thread; the second, they become unsuccessful at the moment Herc's thread glows up as the scissors start touching it on his rescue of her spirit.]]
** The Titans are so scary, they almost look like they were coming out of the screen.
** The Hydra: it's monstrous, no pun intended, and what makes it scarier is that it's like the one monster that gave Hercules trouble - even more than the titans, it was the only thing that came close to killing him.
** Meg is seen dying in agony and then shown clearly as dead as Disney can get away with on a G rating.
** Hercules' rescue of her soul showing his rapid aging gives both kids and adults nightmares.
** As if these two aforementioned examples weren't enough, the Fates attempting to cut [[DeathsHourglass both threads of life]] with scissors is enough to make viewers young and old cringe and hold their breaths in fright of what would happen. [[spoiler:The first time, they are successful in cutting Meg's thread; the second, they become unsuccessful at the moment Herc's thread glows up as the scissors start touching it on his rescue of her spirit.]]
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** FridgeHorror: She's probably been forced into similar situations to help Hades make deals before...
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* CrowningMomentOfSadness: Even when you ''know'' that Meg's going to get better, you still cry a little bit at the way Hercules is sobbing over her pale body and the way he's cradling her corpse in his arms.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Let's just cut to the chase and say ''everything.'' Alan Menken is basically channeling everything he did in LittleShopOfHorrors.
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* CrowningMomentOfSadness: Even when you ''know'' that Meg's going to get better, you still cry a little bit at the way Hercules is sobbing over her pale body and the way he's cradling her corpse in his arms.
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* LargeHam: Hades. Being a Disney villain, not unexpected at all.
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQVJIDjMP0&feature=related A ZEERO TO HEERO!]] Probably the most famous song from the film (specially (especially for being the opening theme for the series).
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* TethercatPrinciple: Wait...they left Nessus facedown in a pond.
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* FetishFuel / {{Squick}}: The first time we meet Megara is while she is being sexually assaulted by the enormous centaur, Nessus. And this ain't one of your [[{{Disneyfication}} happy, frolicking]] ''{{Fantasia}}'' centaurs.
** FridgeHorror: She's probably been forced into similar situations to help Hades make deals before...
** FridgeHorror: She's probably been forced into similar situations to help Hades make deals before...
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** There's also the Cyclops using Hercules to play hackey sack.
** Justified in that it was probably intended to be ridiculous.
** There's also the Cyclops using Hercules to play hackey sack.
** Justified in that it was probably intended to be ridiculous.
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* {{Narm}}: Some of the Titans' voices are a bit silly. Especially when they are proclaiming what they will do to Zeus, and the tornado one goes [[ThisIsSPARTA "Blow. Him.]] '''[[ThisIsSPARTA Away!"]]'''
** There's also the Cyclops using Hercules to play hackey sack.
** Justified in that it was probably intended to be ridiculous.LoveToHate: Hades.
** There's also the Cyclops using Hercules to play hackey sack.
** Justified in that it was probably intended to be ridiculous.
* {{Squick}}: The first time we meet Megara is while she is being sexually assaulted by the enormous centaur, Nessus. And this ain't one of your [[{{Disneyfication}} happy, frolicking]] ''{{Fantasia}}'' centaurs.
** FridgeHorror: She's probably been forced into similar situations to help Hades make deals before...
** FridgeHorror: She's probably been forced into similar situations to help Hades make deals before...
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* FetishFuel: Is this troper the only one who thinks the fact that Athena, the third-most-beautifull goddess after Hera & Aphrodite (YMMV on that of course), ending up chained SEVERAL times is very hot?
* {{Narm}}: "Work of heart..."
* {{Narm}}: "Work of heart..."
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* TrueNeutral: The gods. Although Zeus leans more towards the BigGood and Hades the BigBad, the writers still kept in the underlying neutrality and self-interested nature of all Grecian gods. Going by the source material, you would probably have many arguing that the roles assigned in this movie should have been reversed (well, at the very least, Hades only cared [[OrderVersusChaos about the universe revolving]] and didn't indulge in the kind of things that made mortal life a living hell. Afterwards however...)
** Arguably, The Fates as well.
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* EvilIsCool: Hades, though anyone with magical powers and the voice of James Woods would be cool.
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* GeniusBonus: Many, for the Greek mythology buffs in the audience. But even in the background -- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRuoUGWoI8&feature=related at 1:20 of this song]] there's a reproduction of the famous statue, "[[TheBigDamnKiss Psyche Revived By the Kiss of Eros.]]"
* IronWoobie: Throughout the movie, poor Hercules suffers from circumstances that would cause [[FreudianExcuse some people to become villains.]] But [[GentleGiant he always has a heart even bigger than his muscles and wouldn't hurt a fly]]... [[BerserkButton unless they did something to Meg. It's on then.]]
* IronWoobie: Throughout the movie, poor Hercules suffers from circumstances that would cause [[FreudianExcuse some people to become villains.]] But [[GentleGiant he always has a heart even bigger than his muscles and wouldn't hurt a fly]]... [[BerserkButton unless they did something to Meg. It's on then.]]
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* AdaptationDecay[=/=]AdaptationDistillation : Many elements of the story were '''''radically''''' different in the source material. For better or worse? YourMileageMayVary.
** Keep in mind Disney [[PragmaticAdaptation had to adapt the stories]] of Ancient Greece, which is infused with sodomy, incest, murder, cannibalism and rape, [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids to being kid-friendly]].
*** You could also TakeAThirdOption and say that, while it has more in common with {{Superman}} and {{Rocky}} than the actual myths, it stands on its own merits quite nicely. The film certainly was received much more warmly than Disney/{{Pocahontas}} or Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame among critics/
** Keep in mind Disney [[PragmaticAdaptation had to adapt the stories]] of Ancient Greece, which is infused with sodomy, incest, murder, cannibalism and rape, [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids to being kid-friendly]].
*** You could also TakeAThirdOption and say that, while it has more in common with {{Superman}} and {{Rocky}} than the actual myths, it stands on its own merits quite nicely. The film certainly was received much more warmly than Disney/{{Pocahontas}} or Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame among critics/
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*** You could also TakeAThirdOption and say that, while it has more in common with {{Superman}} and {{Rocky}} than the actual myths, it stands on its own merits quite nicely. The film certainly was received much more warmly than Disney/{{Pocahontas}} or Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame among critics/
*** You could also TakeAThirdOption and say that, while it has more in common with {{Superman}} and {{Rocky}} than the actual myths, it stands on its own merits quite nicely. The film certainly was received much more warmly than Disney/{{Pocahontas}} or Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame among critics/
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** Just about anything sung by the muses
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** Keep in mind Disney had to adapt the stories of Ancient Greece, which is infused with sodomy, incest, murder, cannibalism and rape, to being kid-friendly.
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* FetishFuel: Is this troper the only one who thinks the fact that Athena, the third-most-beautifull goddess after Hera & Aphrodite (YMMV on that of course), ending up chained SEVERAL times is very hot?
* {{Narm}}: "Work of heart..."
* FetishFuel: Is this troper the only one who thinks the fact that Athena, the third-most-beautifull goddess after Hera & Aphrodite (YMMV on that of course), ending up chained SEVERAL times is very hot?
* {{Narm}}: "Work of heart..."
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** Most would agree that "I Won't Say I'm In Love" is the best song.
* EarWorm: ''Here was a kid with his act down pat! Zero-to-hero, no time flat!''
** ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_bEWXs_FX4 If there's a prize for rotten judgement, I think I've already won that.]]'' You're welcome.
** [[AwardBaitSong I am ON MY WAY! I can go the distance!]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQVJIDjMP0&feature=related A ZEERO TO HEERO!]] Probably the most famous song from the film (specially for being the opening theme for the series).
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Panic, to
* FetishFuel / {{Squick}}: The first time we meet Megara is while she is being sexually assaulted by the enormous centaur, Nessus. And this
** FridgeHorror: She's probably been forced into similar situations to help Hades make deals before...
* LargeHam: Hades. Being a Disney villain, not unexpected at all.
* {{Narm}}: Some of the Titans' voices are a bit silly. Especially when they are proclaiming what they will do to Zeus, and the tornado one goes [[ThisIsSPARTA "Blow. Him.]] '''[[ThisIsSPARTA Away!"]]'''
** There's also the Cyclops using Hercules to play hackey sack.
* NightmareFuel: The Fates share an eye between them. ''One. Single. Eye''.
** The Titans were so scary, they almost look like they were coming out of the screen.
** The Hydra: it's monstrous, no pun intended, and what makes it scarier is that it's like the one monster that gave Hercules trouble - even more than the titans, it was the only thing that came close to killing him.
** Meg is seen dying in agony and then shown clearly as dead as Disney can get away with on a G rating.
** Hercules' rescue of her soul showing his rapid aging gives both kids and adults nightmares.
* TearJerker: The AllOfTheOtherReindeer being played a bit too well in the scene at the agora near the beginning. Young Herc is very good at looking like a kicked puppy.
** Even worse is Meg's death. If that won't yank the heartstrings, then Tate Donovan's voice acting will.
* TrueNeutral: The gods. Although Zeus leans more towards the BigGood and Hades the BigBad, the writers still kept in the underlying neutrality and self-interested nature of all Grecian gods. Going by the source material, you would probably have many arguing that the roles assigned in this movie should have been reversed (well, at the very least, Hades only cared [[OrderVersusChaos about the universe revolving]] and didn't indulge in the kind of things that made mortal life a living hell. Afterwards however...)
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* AdaptationDecay[=/=]AdaptationDistillation : Many elements of the story were '''''radically''''' different in the source material. For better or worse? YourMileageMayVary.
** Keep in mind Disney had to adapt the stories of Ancient Greece, which is infused with sodomy, incest, murder, and rape, to being kid-friendly.
*** Note that Hercules himself actually flew into insane rages and murdered innocents several times. Including his wife and kids. The 12 Labors of Hercules? Basically a glorified community service project.
**** Hera used her godly powers on Heracles,driving him into madness so that he would be guilty and attempt to do the 10 labors
** And Hera was not the loving mother as depicted in the movies, in the original stories she outright hated him and he was not her biological son, he was born of a mortal woman.
** HandWaved by Phil with his comment about "not to believe all the stories".
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** Keep in mind Disney had to adapt the stories of Ancient Greece, which is infused with sodomy, incest, murder, and rape, to being kid-friendly.
*** Note that Hercules himself actually flew into insane rages and murdered innocents several times. Including his wife and kids. The 12 Labors of Hercules? Basically a glorified community service project.
**** Hera used her godly powers on Heracles,driving him into madness so that he would be guilty and attempt to do the 10 labors
** And Hera was not the loving mother as depicted in the movies, in the original stories she outright hated him and he was not her biological son, he was born of a mortal woman.
** HandWaved by Phil with his comment about "not to believe all the stories".
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