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* ValuesDissonance: Estella is openly cruel to Pip and yet he falls for her anyway, with her beauty being the only explanation. With the rising awareness of the dangers of rushing into love, these aspects of the novels have raised eyebrows from readers.
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* ValuesDissonance: Estella is openly cruel to Pip and yet he falls for her anyway, with her beauty being the only explanation. With the rising awareness of the dangers of rushing into love, these aspects of the novels have this has raised eyebrows from readers.
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* ValuesDissonance: Estella is openly cruel to Pip and yet he falls for her anyway, with her beauty being the only explanation. With the rising awareness of the dangers of rushing into love, these aspects of the novels have raised eyebrows from readers.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotDidactic: The Bantam Classic printing has a lengthy introduction by Creator/JohnIrving that ''does'' spoil the whole plot before page one of chapter one, ''does'' compare the book to various other works of Dickens, and does go into way too much scholarly analysis, but at least doesn't go into much EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory.
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** Gillian Anderson (Miss Haversham in the 2011 miniseries) previously played Lady Dedlock in ''Literature/BleakHouse'' (2005).
** Vanessa Kirby (Estella in 2011) and Gillian Anderson both appeared (though not at the same time) in ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as Princess Margaret and Margaret Thatcher.
** Vanessa Kirby (Estella in 2011) and Gillian Anderson both appeared (though not at the same time) in ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as Princess Margaret and Margaret Thatcher.
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** Gillian Anderson Creator/GillianAnderson (Miss Haversham in the 2011 miniseries) previously played Lady Dedlock in ''Literature/BleakHouse'' (2005).
**Vanessa Kirby Creator/VanessaKirby (Estella in 2011) and Gillian Anderson both appeared (though not at the same time) in ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as Princess Margaret and Margaret Thatcher.UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher.
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** Gillian Anderson (Miss Haversham in the 2011 miniseries) previously played Lady Dedlock in ''Literature/BleakHouse'' (2005).
** Vanessa Kirby (Estella in 2011) and Gillian Anderson both appeared (though not at the same time) in ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as Princess Margaret and Margaret Thatcher.
** Gillian Anderson (Miss Haversham in the 2011 miniseries) previously played Lady Dedlock in ''Literature/BleakHouse'' (2005).
** Vanessa Kirby (Estella in 2011) and Gillian Anderson both appeared (though not at the same time) in ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as Princess Margaret and Margaret Thatcher.
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* TheScrappy: Most readers did not like Estella, finding her cold and haughty persona intolerable. There is an in-universe reason for it which makes her a little more sympathetic, but they also felt that Creator/CharlesDickens got really carried away with the descriptions of her beauty, and Pip pretty much falls for her based on her beauty alone even though she treats him with indifference at best. It was the 19th century where young men weren't able to socialize with women like they can now, but this comes across as shallow now. She does go through some CharacterDevelopment that humbles her and makes her more friendly, but this happens at the very end. And off-screen.
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* TheScrappy: Most readers did not like Estella, finding her cold and haughty persona intolerable. There is an in-universe reason for it which makes her a little more sympathetic, but they also felt that Creator/CharlesDickens got really carried away with the descriptions of her beauty, and Pip pretty much falls for her based on her beauty alone even though she treats him with indifference at best. It was the 19th century where young men weren't able to socialize with women like they can now, but this comes across as shallow now. She does go through some CharacterDevelopment that humbles her and makes her more friendly, but this happens at the very end. And off-screen.
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* SignatureScene: The opening scene of the young Pip accosted by Magwitch at his parents' gravesite, which has been used as the cover illustration for various editions of the book.
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* SlowPacedBeginning: The book takes a while to really get moving, despite a pretty action-packed first chapter. As a result of its serial nature, the first two parts rely heavily on building suspense that pays off in the third part (where nearly every chapter has a plot twist or revelation).
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the David Lean film, Estella's first scene (where she's played by Jean Simmons) has her saying "so this is young Pip?" - to which he should have responded "is this Film/YoungBess ?"
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miss Havisham is probably the most memorable character from the book, despite her supporting role. She even had a scientific phenomenon named after her - the Miss Havisham Effect, where a person suffers a painful longing for lost love.
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* HoYay: Pip and Herbert. Pip is very fond of Herbert, and Herbert refers to Pip as "my dear Handel", or "my dear boy" throughout the novel. Chapter 50 of the original text, when Herbert is tending to Pip's wounds, is ''swimming in this,'' especially at the end.
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* HoYay: HilariousInHindsight: In the David Lean film, Estella's first scene (where she's played by Jean Simmons) has her saying "so this is young Pip?" - to which he should have responded "is this Film/YoungBess ?"
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** Pip and Herbert. Pip is very fond of Herbert, and Herbert refers to Pip as "my dear Handel", or "my dear boy" throughout the novel. Chapter 50 of the original text, when Herbert is tending to Pip's wounds, is ''swimming in this,'' especially at the end.
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* FanPreferredCouple: The vast majority of readers want Pip and Estella to end up together. Even the adaptations swing heavily in this way. The revised ending, preferred by both Dickens and his friends, is the one used in modern printings of the book, while the original draft is sometimes the fans are probably correct.
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* FanPreferredCouple: The vast majority of readers want Pip and Estella to end up together. Even the adaptations swing heavily in this way. The revised ending, preferred by both Dickens and his friends, is the one used in modern printings of the book, while the original draft is sometimes the fans are probably correct. included as an extra.
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* BrokenBase: Original ending or RevisedEnding?RevisedEnding? {{Big Name Fan}}s such as Creator/GeorgeOrwell and Creator/GeorgeBernardShaw have argued the original is superior and more fitting, while Creator/JohnIrving wrote that Dickens "did the good thing and the right thing" by changing it.
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* MagnumOpus: A strong contender for Dickens's best novel. Though these days, the consensus is shifting towards ''BleakHouse''.
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* TheWoobie: It's a ''Dickens'' novel! What do you [[IncrediblyLamePun expect]]?
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The Complete Monster discussion thread ruled that none of these three are sufficiently heinous; Drummle is just a Jerkass, Compeyson is the novel\'s Big Bad but only shows up very briefly, mostly to get into fights with Magwitch; and Orlick is a jealous brute but his worst act is not actually shown on the page.
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* CompleteMonster: Orlick and Compeyson (especially Compeyson, who can be traced back to the source of ''all'' problems in the story.)
** Also, [[TheBully Drum]][[DomesticAbuser mle]]
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* TheWoobie: It's a ''Dickens'' novel! [[WorldOfWoobie What do you]] you [[IncrediblyLamePun expect]]?
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** Pip's harshness towards both Joe and Magwitch before the completion of his CharacterDevelopment.
** Pip's discovery of the AwfulTruth about his benefactor's identity, and his confrontation of Miss Havisham.
** What happens to Magwitch in the end.
** Pip's harshness towards both Joe and Magwitch before the completion of his CharacterDevelopment.
** Pip's discovery of the AwfulTruth about his benefactor's identity, and his confrontation of Miss Havisham.
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* TheWoobie: It's a ''Dickens'' novel! [[WorldOfWoobie What do you]] [[IncrediblyLamePun expect]]?
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* HoYay: Pip and Herbert. Pip is very fond of Herbert, and Herbert refers to Pip as "my dear Handel", or "my dear boy" throughout the novel. Chapter 50 of the original text, when Herbert is tending to Pip's wounds, is ''swimming in this,'' especially at the end.
** The way Herbert proposed to Pip to share his business with him and Clara just smelled of a threesome attempt that everyone would've agreed with.
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* JerkassWoobie: Miss Havisham. After reading her backstory, her actions when it comes to raising Estella become understandable.
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* TearJerker: What happens to Magwitch in the end.
* YourMilageMayVary: Depending on who you ask, this is either absolutely brilliant, Dickens's masterpiece, and extremely important to literature, or a [[BadWriting poorly-written, unrealistic]], [[{{Doorstopper}} bloated waste of a book]] that needs to be forgotten to make more room for Dickens's other, better works. There's a fair argument for both sides in this case.
* YourMilageMayVary: Depending on who you ask, this is either absolutely brilliant, Dickens's masterpiece, and extremely important to literature, or a [[BadWriting poorly-written, unrealistic]], [[{{Doorstopper}} bloated waste of a book]] that needs to be forgotten to make more room for Dickens's other, better works. There's a fair argument for both sides in this case.
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* TearJerker: What happens to Magwitch in the end.
* YourMilageMayVary: Depending on who you ask, this is either absolutely brilliant, Dickens's masterpiece, and extremely important to literature, or a [[BadWriting poorly-written, unrealistic]], [[{{Doorstopper}} bloated waste of a book]] that needs to be forgotten to make more room for Dickens's other, better works. There's a fair argument for both sides in this case.end.
* YourMilageMayVary: Depending on who you ask, this is either absolutely brilliant, Dickens's masterpiece, and extremely important to literature, or a [[BadWriting poorly-written, unrealistic]], [[{{Doorstopper}} bloated waste of a book]] that needs to be forgotten to make more room for Dickens's other, better works. There's a fair argument for both sides in this case.
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* JerkassWoobie: Miss Havisham. After reading her backstory, her actions when it comes to raising Estella become understandable.