History YMMV / FateSeries

* ''YMMV/CarnivalPhantasm''

* MemeticLoser: The Lancer class in general due to most of them having a poor luck stat as well as how they tend to die in terrible ways. This is especially true after ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' has [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer Cu constantly dying in almost every episode]]. Even when ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'' looks to change that by having two of the most powerful servants in the story being lancers, [[spoiler:Vlad III ends up dying terribly just like all of the other lancers and while Karna ends up faring better, he's still stuck with a Master that he doesn't fully trust, got his servitude via underhanded means, and having to take the antagonist role.]]

* MorePopularSpinOff: Fate was relatively popular in the Noughties, but never monumentally so. In the 2010's however, first came Creator/{{Ufotable}}'s adaptation of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' which was first showcase of the series to a wider audience, and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' which has since become ''the'' most profitable part of the ''Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}''. As a result, Fate itself has completely eclipsed every other part of the Nasuverse in the collective consciousness across the globe.

* MorePopularSpinOff: Fate was relatively popular in the Noughties, but never monumentally so. In the 2010's however, first came LightNovel/FateZero which was first showcase of the series to a wider audience, and VideoGame/FateGrandOrder which has since become ''the'' most profitable part of the Nasuverse. As a result, Fate itself has completely eclipsed every other part of the Nasuverse in the collective consciousness across the globe.

* CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/FateStayNight Zouken Matou]]; [[YMMV/FateZero Ryuunosuke Uryuu]]; [[YMMV/FateApocrypha Celenike Icecolle Yggdmillenia]]; [[YMMV/FateGrandOrder Ashiya Douman; Kiara Sessyoin]]. See those pages for details.

* HilariousInHindsight: Fate wouldn't be the last time a Gilgamesh dons golden armor, as ''Film/{{Eternals}}'' in the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' would follow suit.

* HilariousInHindsight: Fate wouldn't be the last time a Gilgamesh dons golden armor, as ''Film/{{Eternals}}'' in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse would follow suit.

** No matter how much he does in lore, Merlin will always be best remembered for that time he gave Altria (Saber from Fate/Stay Night) a penis.

** No matter how much he does in lore, Merlin will always be best remembered for that time he gave Altria a penis.

* HilariousInHindsight: Fate wouldn't be the last time a Gilgamesh dons golden armor, as ''Film/Eternals'' in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse would follow suit.

* MemeticLoser: The Lancer class in general due to most of them having a poor luck stat as well as how they tend to die in terrible ways. This is especially true after ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' constantly has [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer Cu constantly dying in almost every episode]]. Even when ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'' looks to change that by having two of the most powerful servants in the story being lancers, [[spoiler:Vlad III ends up dying terribly just like all of the other lancers and while Karna ends up faring better, he's still stuck with a Master that he doesn't fully trust, got his servitude via underhanded means, and having to take the antagonist role.]]

* JustHereForGodzilla: There are a number of people that only get into ''Grand Order'' after hearing about the [[HistoricalGenderFlip gender-flipped historical figures]].

* MemeticLoser: The Lancer class in general due to most of them having a poor luck stat as well as how they tend to die in terrible ways. This is especially true after ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' constantly has [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer Cu constantly dying in almost every episode]]. Even when ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'' looks to change that by having two of the most powerful servants in the game being lancers, [[spoiler:Vlad III ends up dying just like all of the other lancers and while Karna ends up faring better, he's still stuck with a Master that he doesn't fully trust, got his servitude via underhanded means, and having to take the antagonist role.]]

* MemeticLoser: The Lancer class in general due to most of them having a poor luck stat as well as how they tend to die in terrible ways. This is especially true after ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' constantly has [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer Cu constantly dying in every episode]]. Even when ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'' looks to change that by having two of the most powerful servants in the game being lancers, [[spoiler:Vlad III ends up dying just like all of the other lancers and while Karna ends up faring better, he's still stuck with a Master that he doesn't fully trust, got his servitude via underhanded means, and having to take the antagonist role.]]

* MemeticLoser: The Lancer class in general due to most of them having a poor luck stat as well as how they tend to die in terrible ways. This is especially true after ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' constantly has [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer Cu constantly dying in every episode]]. Even when ''LightNovel/Fate/Apocryphia'' looks to change that by having two of the most powerful servants in the game being lancers, [[spoiler:Vlad III ends up dying just like all of the other lancers and while Karna ends up faring better, he's still stuck with a Master that he doesn't fully trust, got his servitude via underhanded means, and having to take the antagonist role.]]

* MemeticLoser: The Lancer class in general due to most of them having a poor luck stat as well as how they tend to die in terrible ways. This is especially true after ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' constantly has [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer Cu constantly dying in every episode]]. Even when ''Fate/Apocryphia'' looks to change that, [[spoiler:Vlad III ends up dying just like all of the other lancers and while Karna ends up faring better, he's still stuck with a Master that he doesn't fully trust, got his servitude via underhanded means, and having to take the antagonist role.]]

* MemeticLoser: The Lancer class in general due to most of them having a poor luck stat how they tend to die in terrible ways. This is especially true after ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' constantly has [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer Cu constantly dying in every episode]]. Even when ''Fate/Apocryphia'' looks to change that, [[spoiler:Vlad III ends up dying just like all of the other lancers and while Karna ends up faring better, he's still stuck with a Master that he doesn't fully trust, got his servitude via underhanded means, and having to take the antagonist role.]]

* CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/FateStayNight Zouken Matou]]; [[YMMV/FateZero Ryuunosuke Uryuu]]; [[YMMV/FateApocrypha Celenike Icecolle Yggdmillenia]]; [[YMMV/FateGrandOrder Ashiya Douman; Kiara Sessyoin]]. See those pages for details.

* BrokenBase: There's quite a bit of longstanding discourse over the "correct" order of works that you have to read/watch/play. Usually it involves watching or reading ''Fate/Stay Night'' first followed by ''Fate/Zero'', and anything other than that as one's intro to the series is unacceptable; the same people who believe this also look down on anyone whose first work is ''Fate/Grand Order'' which is one of the most accessible works due to being a free-to-start mobile game, thus leading to a NewbieBoom for the series. Others view this as the multimedia equivalent of StopHavingFunGuys and point to the fair number of [[BaseBreakingCharacter base-breaking]] protagonists in the series (Shirou from ''F/SN'', especially) and believe people should watch in whatever order they want.

* BrokenBase: There's quite a bit of longstanding discourse over the "correct" order of works that you have to read/watch/play. Usually it involves watching or reading ''F/SN'' first followed by ''Zero'', and anything other than that as one's intro to the series is unacceptable; the same people who believe this also look down on anyone whose first work is ''F/GO'' which is one of the most accessible works due to being a free-to-start mobile game. Others view this as the multimedia equivalent of StopHavingFunGuys and point to the fair number of [[BaseBreakingCharacter base-breaking]] protagonists in the series (Shirou, especially) and believe people should watch in whatever order they want.

* CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/FateStayNight Zouken Matou]]; [[YMMV/FateZero Ryuunosuke Uryuu]]; [[YMMV/FateApocrypha Celenike Icecolle Yggdmillenia]]; [[YMMV/FateGrandOrder Kiara Sessyoin]]. See those pages for details.