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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/LexLuthor is a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity respected businessman who helped revolutionized the city of Metropolis]]; his reputation is just a means to hide his glory and greed. Along with his accomplice Hamilton, Luthor [[WouldHurtAChild murdered an infant Kal-El]] with kryptonite and used his corpse as an energy source for his labs, making him millions while Luthor left Hamilton with nothing and ruined his life due to attempting to expose his crimes to the public. Luthor was also responsible for hiring Joe Chill to murder the Waynes, including their son Bruce Wayne, making him indirectly responsible for the death of Barbara Gordon's parents. Luthor conspires with ComicBook/TheJoker to get rid of Supergirl and Batgirl, so he could use Supergirl's corpse the same way he did to her infant cousin. Having Joker beat Supergirl nearly to death, Luthor taunts her about the fact he'll make her species extinct, how he murdered her stillborn, and claimed he didn't murder anyone as [[FantasticRacism aliens are worthless and have no equal rights as humans]].

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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/LexLuthor is a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity respected businessman who helped revolutionized the city of Metropolis]]; his reputation is just a means to hide his glory greed and greed. narcissism. Along with his accomplice Hamilton, Luthor [[WouldHurtAChild murdered an infant Kal-El]] with kryptonite and used his corpse as an energy source for his labs, making him millions while Luthor he left Hamilton with nothing and ruined his life due to attempting to expose his crimes to the public. Luthor was also responsible for hiring Joe Chill to murder the Waynes, including their son Bruce Wayne, making him indirectly responsible for the death of Barbara Gordon's parents. Luthor conspires with ComicBook/TheJoker to get rid of Supergirl and Batgirl, so he could use Supergirl's corpse the same way he did to her infant cousin. Having Joker beat Supergirl nearly to death, Luthor taunts her about the fact he'll make her species extinct, how he murdered her stillborn, and claimed he didn't murder anyone as [[FantasticRacism aliens are worthless and have no equal rights as humans]].
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* FoeYay: In a twisted mirror of the main Joker's obsession with Batman, this Joker is just as lovingly obsessed with Batgirl, if not ''even more so''. And as usual, it is entirely one-sided.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** In ''ComicBook/ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In this work, written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].
*** It becomes even worse knowing that the Post-Crisis Kara was originally sent to Earth to watch over her baby cousin. One can only imagine Kara growing up wondering what became of her little cousin.
** The Joker having a crush on Batgirl was a disturbing concept back then, even if it was played for laughs… but ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' turned it into sheer nightmare fuel.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** In ''ComicBook/ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In this work, written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].
*** It becomes even worse knowing that the Post-Crisis Kara was originally sent to Earth to watch over her baby cousin. One can only imagine Kara growing up wondering what became of her little cousin.
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HarsherInHindsight: The Joker having a crush on Batgirl was a disturbing concept back then, when this was released, even if it was played for laughs… but ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' turned it into sheer nightmare fuel.



** The Joker saying he is not behind money and he can't be bought reminds of ''Film/TheDarkKnight''...
** Kara's suit is almost exactly like what Superman has worn since ComicBook/FlashPoint, with her cape coming out of her logo, the lack of UnderwearOfPower, and sleeves that go beyond her wrists. The only thing missing are the visible seams.

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** The Joker saying he is not behind money and he can't be bought reminds many of ''Film/TheDarkKnight''...
** Kara's suit is almost exactly like what Superman has worn since ComicBook/FlashPoint, ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', with her cape coming out of her logo, the lack of UnderwearOfPower, and sleeves that go beyond her wrists. The only thing missing are the visible seams.
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** Kara's suit doesn't have UnderwearOfPower, like the ComicBook/New52 version (and others since) of her cousin.

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** Kara's suit doesn't have is almost exactly like what Superman has worn since ComicBook/FlashPoint, with her cape coming out of her logo, the lack of UnderwearOfPower, like and sleeves that go beyond her wrists. The only thing missing are the ComicBook/New52 version (and others since) of her cousin.visible seams.

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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/LexLuthor is a [[VillainwithGoodPublicity respected businessman who helped revolutionized the city of Metropolis]]; his reputation is just a means to hide his glory and greed. Along with his accomplice Hamilton, Luthor [[WouldHurtaChild murdered an infant Kal-El]] with kryptonite and used his corpse as an energy source for his labs, making him millions while Luthor left Hamilton with nothing and ruined his life due to attempting to expose his crimes to the public. Luthor was also responsible for hiring Joe Chill to murder the Waynes, including their son Bruce Wayne, making him indirectly responsible for the death of Barbara Gordon's parents. Luthor conspires with ComicBook/TheJoker to get rid of Supergirl and Batgirl, so he could use Supergirl's corpse the same way he did to her infant cousin. Having Joker beat Supergirl nearly to death, Luthor taunts her about the fact he'll make her species extinct, how he murdered her stillborn, and claimed he didn't murder anyone as [[FantasticRacism aliens are worthless and have no equal rights as humans]].

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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/LexLuthor is a [[VillainwithGoodPublicity [[VillainWithGoodPublicity respected businessman who helped revolutionized the city of Metropolis]]; his reputation is just a means to hide his glory and greed. Along with his accomplice Hamilton, Luthor [[WouldHurtaChild [[WouldHurtAChild murdered an infant Kal-El]] with kryptonite and used his corpse as an energy source for his labs, making him millions while Luthor left Hamilton with nothing and ruined his life due to attempting to expose his crimes to the public. Luthor was also responsible for hiring Joe Chill to murder the Waynes, including their son Bruce Wayne, making him indirectly responsible for the death of Barbara Gordon's parents. Luthor conspires with ComicBook/TheJoker to get rid of Supergirl and Batgirl, so he could use Supergirl's corpse the same way he did to her infant cousin. Having Joker beat Supergirl nearly to death, Luthor taunts her about the fact he'll make her species extinct, how he murdered her stillborn, and claimed he didn't murder anyone as [[FantasticRacism aliens are worthless and have no equal rights as humans]].



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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/LexLuthor is a [[VillainwithGoodPublicity respected businessman who helped revolutionized the city of Metropolis]]; his reputation is just a means to hide his glory and greed. Along with his accomplice Hamilton, Luthor [[WouldHurtaChild murdered an infant Kal-El]] with kryptonite and used his corpse as an energy source for his labs, making him millions while Luthor left Hamilton with nothing and ruined his life due to attempting to expose his crimes to the public. Luthor was also responsible for hiring Joe Chill to murder the Waynes, including their son Bruce Wayne, making him indirectly responsible for the death of Barbara Gordon's parents. Luthor conspires with ComicBook/TheJoker to get rid of Supergirl and Batgirl, so he could use Supergirl's corpse the same way he did to her infant cousin. Having Joker beat Supergirl nearly to death, Luthor taunts her about the fact he'll make her species extinct, how he murdered her stillborn, and claimed he didn't murder anyone as [[FantasticRacism aliens are worthless and have no equal rights as humans]].
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* MagnificentBastard: Lex Luthor is smart enough to deceive and manipulate everyone, he plans for most of eventualities and he's capable of talking his way out of most of situations ([[spoiler:apparently even being exposed]]).
-->'''Hamilton:''' You always did turn adversity to advantage, Lex... What about the tape? If I transmit this, and Joker goes to work for you, it'll be proof you collude with known criminals.\\
'''Luthor:''' Not at all, Emil. It'll be proof of my ability to persuade a criminal to turn from his ways, and my willingness to get a win-win equation out of any situation.
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** The Joker saying he is not behind money and he can't be bought reminds of a [[Film/TheDarkKnight certain Batman film]]...

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** The Joker saying he is not behind money and he can't be bought reminds of a [[Film/TheDarkKnight certain Batman film]]...''Film/TheDarkKnight''...
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** Kara's suit doesn't have UnderwearOfPower, like the ComicBook/New52 version (and others since) of her cousin.
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** If someone wasn't a fan of the dark tone of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', reading a story where Supergirl and Batgirl meet, and after Supergirl manages to reason with the paranoid, parahuman-hating Batgirl, they team up to take Lex Luthor down -and eventually befriend each other- instead of coming to blows is… heartening.

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** If someone wasn't a fan of the dark tone of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', reading a story where Supergirl and Batgirl meet, and after Supergirl manages to reason with the paranoid, parahuman-hating Batgirl, they team up to take Lex Luthor down -and eventually befriend each other- instead of coming to blows is… is... heartening.



* MagnificentBastard: Lex Luthor is smart enough to deceive and manipulate everyone, he plans for most of eventualities and he's capable of talking his way out of most of situations ([[spoiler:Apparently even being exposed]]).
-->'''Hamilton:''' You always did turn adversity to advantage, Lex… What about the tape? If I transmit this, and Joker goes to work for you, it'll be proof you collude with known criminals.\\

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* MagnificentBastard: Lex Luthor is smart enough to deceive and manipulate everyone, he plans for most of eventualities and he's capable of talking his way out of most of situations ([[spoiler:Apparently ([[spoiler:apparently even being exposed]]).
-->'''Hamilton:''' You always did turn adversity to advantage, Lex… Lex... What about the tape? If I transmit this, and Joker goes to work for you, it'll be proof you collude with known criminals.\\
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** The Joker saying he is not behind money and he can't be bought reminds of a certain Batman film…

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** The Joker saying he is not behind money and he can't be bought reminds of a [[Film/TheDarkKnight certain Batman film…film]]...



* MagnificentBastard: Lex Luthor is smart enough to deceive and manipulate everyone, he plans for most of eventualities and he's capable of talking his way out of most of situations.

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* MagnificentBastard: Lex Luthor is smart enough to deceive and manipulate everyone, he plans for most of eventualities and he's capable of talking his way out of most of situations.situations ([[spoiler:Apparently even being exposed]]).
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*** It becomes even worse knowing that the Post-Crisis Kara was originally sent to Earth to watch over her baby cousin. One can only imagine Kara growing up wondering what became of her little cousin.
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** In ''ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In this work, written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].

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** In ''ActionComics ''ComicBook/ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In this work, written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].

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* FoeYay: In a twisted mirror of the main Joker's obsession with Batman, this Joker is just as lovingly obsessed with Batgirl, if not ''even more so''. And as usual, it is entirely one-sided.



** In ''ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'', written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].

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** In ''ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'', this work, written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].
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* CompleteMonster: Luthor [[spoiler:murdered baby Kal-El and sent a hitman to kill the Wayne family, depriving Earth of its greatest heroes who would have saved countless lives and forcing their successors to grow up quick and pick up their slack. Then he spent two decades making a profit out of analyzing and researching Kryptonian anatomy and technology. He befriended Supergirl in order to learn more stuff about Krypton before killing her. And he's slightly sorry about anything? Hell, no!]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: The Joker having a crush on Batgirl was a disturbing concept back then, even if it was played for laughs… but ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' turned it into sheer nightmare fuel.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
** In ''ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'', written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].
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The Joker having a crush on Batgirl was a disturbing concept back then, even if it was played for laughs… but ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' turned it into sheer nightmare fuel.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Luthor crosses it when it was revealed that he [[spoiler: murdered baby Kal-El]]. And he feels absolutely ''no'' remorse, because "it was only an alien".
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* CompleteMonster: Luthor [[spoiler:murdered baby Kal-El and sent a hitman to kill the Wayne family, depriving Earth of its greatest heroes who would have saved countless lives and forcing their successors to grow up quick and pick up their slack. Then he spent two decades making a profit out of analyzing and researching Kryptonian anatomy and technology. He befriended Supergirl in order to learn more stuff about Krypton before killing her. And he's slightly sorry about anything? Hell, no!

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* CompleteMonster: Luthor [[spoiler:murdered baby Kal-El and sent a hitman to kill the Wayne family, depriving Earth of its greatest heroes who would have saved countless lives and forcing their successors to grow up quick and pick up their slack. Then he spent two decades making a profit out of analyzing and researching Kryptonian anatomy and technology. He befriended Supergirl in order to learn more stuff about Krypton before killing her. And he's slightly sorry about anything? Hell, no!no!]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Batgirl is the protector Gotham needs, even if she's a ''tad'' dictatorial? Or she exhibits the worst traits of the post-Creator/FrankMiller Batman and she's a paranoid, superhuman-hating jerkass who is more concerned with taking other heroes down and keeping them out of her private kingdom than ensuring that the Joker and other criminals stay behind bars?
* CompleteMonster: Luthor [[spoiler:murdered baby Kal-El and sent a hitman to kill the Wayne family, depriving Earth of its greatest heroes who would have saved countless lives and forcing their successors to grow up quick and pick up their slack. Then he spent two decades making a profit out of analyzing and researching Kryptonian anatomy and technology. He befriended Supergirl in order to learn more stuff about Krypton before killing her. And he's slightly sorry about anything? Hell, no!
* HarsherInHindsight: The Joker having a crush on Batgirl was a disturbing concept back then, even if it was played for laughs… but ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' turned it into sheer nightmare fuel.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** If someone wasn't a fan of the dark tone of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', reading a story where Supergirl and Batgirl meet, and after Supergirl manages to reason with the paranoid, parahuman-hating Batgirl, they team up to take Lex Luthor down -and eventually befriend each other- instead of coming to blows is… heartening.
** The Joker saying he is not behind money and he can't be bought reminds of a certain Batman film…
*JerkassWoobie: Batgirl isn't nice… at all. However her parents got murdered in front her when she was a child.
* MagnificentBastard: Lex Luthor is smart enough to deceive and manipulate everyone, he plans for most of eventualities and he's capable of talking his way out of most of situations.
-->'''Hamilton:''' You always did turn adversity to advantage, Lex… What about the tape? If I transmit this, and Joker goes to work for you, it'll be proof you collude with known criminals.\\
'''Luthor:''' Not at all, Emil. It'll be proof of my ability to persuade a criminal to turn from his ways, and my willingness to get a win-win equation out of any situation.

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