History YMMV / DragonBallGT

** Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. For the longest time before [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Super]] was even a thing, this guy was the undisputed strongest character in the series. Imagine [[ShowyInvincibleHero Super]][[GameBreaker Vegito's]] strength multiplied times [[UpToEleven 10,000.]] And even years later after other powerful characters like [DestroyerDeity Beerus,]][[AllPowerfulBystander Whis,]][[TookALevelInBadass Super Saiyan Blue Vegito,]] and even [[World'sStrongestMan Jiren,]] various producers of other Dragon Ball media all still treat him as one of the strongest beings in the whole franchise. Special mention goes to his inclusion in [[VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz,]] where out of the numerous characters added to the game, he's the only one given a distinct attack that end [[OneHitkill ANY opponent regardless of how much health they still have.]]

* TheScrappy: When it comes to {{Arc Villain}}s in the franchise as a whole, Super 17 is among the few villains to be widely disliked. He doesn't make much sense when it comes to the circumstances of his creation and his motives are very unclear, seemingly being just destroying everything after he kills both of his creators. His fight is also not very impressive compared to the fights before and after his arc, as he somehow goes from being pushed back by Goku in his weaker forms, then suddenly being able to match Super Saiyan 4 Goku before his energy absorption ability. As such, many fans tend to skip his arc altogether, and despite being put into many games that feature ''GT'' characters, he remains very unpopular. It doesn't help that the Universe Survival Saga of ''Super'' turned Android 17 into an EnsembleDarkHorse and even had him [[spoiler:win the Tournament of Power the saga is centered around]], leading even fans more open to ''GT'' to prefer the 17 from ''Super'' over Super 17.

* {{Squick}}: Bulla looks and acts like a teenager, and has multiple fanservice moments thanks to her attire showing off her legs and stomach, as well as being a tease to the multiple men in the series who vary from early teens to full grown adults. Sounds normal for a 90's anime right? Well, keep in mind that she's ''10'', this makes all the scenes where she's being hit on extremely hard to watch, but it does make Vegeta's PapaWolf tendencies seem a lot more reasonable considering her age.

* UnfortunateImplications: [[https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-gt-dragon-book-gt-back-then-kozo-morishita-interview/ An interview with producer Kozo Morishita]] [[https://comicbook.com/anime/news/dragon-ball-gt-pan-super-saiyan-reason-anime-manga/ revealed the reason]] that Pan had never gone Super Saiyan in the series despite it being completely within her capability to do so as revealed with her descendent Goku Jr. doing so without a single problem. The reason was that she was designed to be a damsel in distress and cause situations for Goku to get serious and save her and if she attained Super Saiyan, she'd be too strong to warrant that motivation for Goku. This would not help the franchise's reputation with [[StayInTheKitchen the poor treatment of their female characters]], as the main female lead bordered on FauxActionGirl and was an enforced DamselInDistress in a series all about fighting, her role of being purposely put as a woman in constant need of rescue while her male companions constantly defeat the villain of the week won her no fans.

* {{Squick}}: Bulla looks an acts like a teenager, and has multiple fanservice moments thanks to her attire showing off her legs and stomach, as well as being a tease to the multiple men in the series who vary from early teens to full grown adults. Sounds normal for a 90's anime right? Well, keep in mind that she's ''10'', this makes all the scenes where she's being hit on extremely hard to watch, but it does make Vegeta's PapaWolf tendencies seem a lot more reasonable considering her age.

* TheScrappy: When it comes to {{Arc Villain}}s in the franchise as a whole, Super 17 is among the few villains is disliked. He doesn't make much sense when it comes to the circumstances of his creation and his motives are very unclear, seemingly being just destroying everything after he kills both of his creators. His fight is also not very impressive compared to the fights before and after his arc, as he somehow goes from being pushed back by Goku in his weaker forms, then suddenly being able to match Super Saiyan 4 Goku before his energy absorption ability. As such, many fans tend to skip his arc altogether, and despite being put into many games that feature ''GT'' characters, he remains very unpopular. It doesn't help that the Universe Survival Saga of ''Super'' turned Android 17 into an EnsembleDarkHorse and even had him [[spoiler:win the Tournament of Power the saga is centered around]], leading even fans more open to ''GT'' to prefer the 17 from ''Super'' over Super 17.

** The machine mutants, an emergent artificial species largely designed for combat that are cusp of becoming an interstellar terror. They were indirectly created by Baby, and are in fact based on him. For some disliking the Shadow Dragons, they were the best thing ''GT'' created. Not only because there are so many potential character designs and stories that can come from, but because a Tuffle revenge project producing something NotSoDifferent from the Saiyans his creators despised, and not even realizing the irony, is humorous. And while a timid noncombat drone was a good way to ease viewers into the concept, showing that they had individual personalities and moral agency, said drone is the only one viewers get to know before Baby enters the plot. Then all machine mutants are left behind. The concept comes back in the next arc, but only in the form of an Android 17 lookalike that serves as plot device to kick off an otherwise unrelated conflict, and in the return of [[SoLastSeason a quickly defeated]] General Rilldo.

* TheScrappy: When it comes to {{Arc Villain}}s in the franchise as a whole, Super 17 is among the few villains who has very few fans. He doesn't make much sense when it comes to the circumstances of his creation and his motives are very unclear. As such, many fans tend to skip his arc altogether. Despite this, he somehow keeps appearing as a playable fighter in any game that features ''GT'' characters, most likely due to being a major villain in the franchise. It doesn't help that the Universe Survival Saga of ''Super'' turned Android 17 into an EnsembleDarkHorse and even had him [[spoiler:win the Tournament of Power the saga is centered around]], leading even fans more open to ''GT'' to prefer the 17 from ''Super'' over Super 17.

* TheScrappy: When it comes to {{Arc Villain}}s in the franchise as a whole, Super 17 is among the few villains who has very few fans. He doesn't make much sense when it comes to the circumstances of his creation and his motives are very unclear. As such, many fans tend to downright skip his arc altogether. Despite this, he somehow keeps appearing as a playable fighter in any game that has ''GT'' characters in it, most likely due to being a major villain in the franchise. It doesn't help that the Universe Survival Saga of ''Super'' turned Android 17 into an EnsembleDarkHorse and even had him [[spoiler:win the Tournament of Power the saga is centered around]], leading even fans more open to ''GT'' to prefer the 17 from ''Super'' over Super 17.

* AngstWhatAngst: Baby had invaded the entire planet of Earth and the population his mind controlled slaves, and both Bulma and Vegeta confirm that they ''do'' at least somewhat retain their memories of the whole experience. It made brother turn against brother, any ally could have just been another one of Baby's victims, Pan gets beaten down and nearly killed by her own ''parents''. But no one actually reflects on this really or even talks about it for more than a passing comment, despite the ParanoiaFuel it would have undoubtedly had.

* ContestedSequel: For ''Dragon Ball'' fans. It ''does'' have its strengths, such as better pacing compared with ''DBZ''[='=]s frequent ArcFatigue and genuinely good ''ideas'' for continuing the series. On the other hand, the decreasing relevance in fights of everyone not named Goku and the poor execution of the plot are points against.

* AngstWhatAngst: Baby had invaded the entire planet of Earth and the population his mind controlled slaves, and both Bulma and Vegeta confirm that they ''do'' at least somewhat retain their memories of the whole experience. It made brother turn against brother, any ally could have just been another one of Baby's victims, Pan gets beaten down and nearly killed by her own ''parents''. But no one actually reflects on this really or even talks about it for more than a passing comment, despite the PanoiaFuel it would have undoubtedly had.

* MagnificentBastard: [[ManipulativeBastard Baby]] manages to not only manipulate nearly every main character in the show, he manages to get everything he wants for an ambiguous amount of time. He gets to possess Vegeta in poetic revenge for the Saiyans slaughtering his people, manages to turn nearly 100% of Earth's people into his slaves (including Popo and Dende, as well as the hybrid saiyans), succeeds in bringing Planet Plant back and making an empire, and nearly succeeds in killing Goku twice over.

** Many feel most of the Shadow Dragons were wasted as characters to be varying degrees of [[GenericDoomsDayVillain Generic Doomsday Villains]] that are compelled by doing things ForTheEvluls. In particular, Oceanus and Nuova Shenron are considered more interesting for their HiddenEvil and TokenGoodTeammate aspects that makes them a departure from the rest of their fellow dragons. There's also a minority of fans that felt this applies to Syn/Omega, as he's arguably the least fleshed out, and yet is the FinalBoss that fails to differentiate himself from many other villains in DB's history.

* MagnificentBastard: [[ManipulativeBastard Baby]] manages to not only manipulate nearly every main character in the show, he manages to get everything he wants for an ambiguous amount of time. He gets to possess Vegeta in poetic revenge for the Saiyans slaughtering his people, manages to turn nearly 100% of Earth's people into his slaves (including Popo and Dende, as well as the hybrid saiyans), succeeds and bringing Planet Plant back and making an empire, and nearly succeeds in killing Goku twice over.

** Many feel most of the Shadow Dragons were wasted as characters to be varying degrees of [[GenericDoomsDayVillain Generic Doomsday Villains]] that are compelled by doing things ForTheEvuls. In particular, Oceanus and Nuova Shenron are considered more interesting for their HiddenEvil and TokenGoodTeammate aspects that makes them a departure from the rest of their fellow dragons. There's also a minority of fans that felt this applies to Syn/Omega, as he's arguably the least fleshed out, and yet is the FinalBoss that fails to differentiate himself from many other villains in DB's history.

* MagnificentBastard: [[ManipulativeBastard Baby]]. And ''how''. He manages to not only manipulate nearly every main character in the show, he manages to get everything he wants for an ambiguous amount of time. He gets to possess Vegeta in poetic revenge for the Saiyans slaughtering his people, manages to turn nearly 100% of Earth's people into his slaves (including Popo and Dende, as well as the hybrid saiyans), succeeds and bringing Planet Plant back and making an empire, and nearly succeeds in killing Goku twice over.

* {{Squick}}: Bulla looks an acts like a teenager, and has multiple fanservice moments thanks to her attire showing off her legs and stomach, as well as being a tease to the multiple men in the series who vary from early teens to full grown adults. Sounds normal right? Well, keep in mind that she's ''10'', this makes all the scenes where she's being hit on extremely hard to watch, but it does make Vegeta's PapaWolf tendencies seem a lot more reasonable considering her age.

* DamselScrappy: Pan, in addition to her inability to accomplish much in the series, she spends a majority of her screen time either berating other characters, complaining about her situation, constantly having TooDumbToLive ideas being a constant DamselInDistress and begging Goku to save her, and never really taking a level in badass like many viewers hoped she would. Admittedly, she does get a few wins, but none of them have any real impact and are undermined by her role as a damsel time and time again.

** Toriyama's initial design for Vegeta, which gives him a flattop haircut, a mustache, and the dorkiest '90s dad clothes ever. Thankfully, the mustache was shaved off, his hair became spiky, and the clothes were changed to '90s punk clothing.

** The song's its [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPDP3S4dYcY Canadian]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJcuDgVYjgI original Japanese]] counterparts are equally awesome.

* UnfortunateImplications: [[https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-gt-dragon-book-gt-back-then-kozo-morishita-interview/ An interview with producer Kozo Morishita]] [[https://comicbook.com/anime/news/dragon-ball-gt-pan-super-saiyan-reason-anime-manga/ revealed the reason]] that Pan had never gone Super Saiyan in the series despite it being completely within her capability to do so as revealed with her descendent Goku Jr. doing so without a single problem. The reason was that she was designed to be a damsel in distress and cause situations for Goku to get serious and save her and if she attained Super Saiyan, she'd be too strong to warrant that motivation for Goku. This would not help the franchise's reputation with the poor treatment of their female characters, as the main female lead bordered on FauxActionGirl and was an enforced DamselInDistress in a series all about fighting, her role of being purposely put as a woman in constant need of rescue while her male companions constantly defeat the villain of the week won her no fans.

** The Shadow Dragons, and the nature of their birth. Each of the seven dragons are born from one of the major wishes from ''Dragon Ball'' history, with the more selfless wishes supposedly creating more powerful dragons, and each one having different powers. The arc easily could have had the heroes split up and confront them, giving both spotlight for the other characters, but also use the concept of the karma built up by the Dragon Balls to explore the past of the heroes or give the villains intriguing motivations. Instead, the arc involves Goku and Pan traveling around Earth and fighting them, and all but Syn, Nuova, and Eis are extremely weak foes that only use the wish that created them as a cheap CallBack. The only reason the fights with all but the last three end up lasting as long as they do is thanks to Goku or Pan holding the IdiotBall and creating unnecessary drama. Furthermore, with the exception of Nuova, none of them have anything going on besides ForTheEvulz. This extends to Omega Shenron, who is the MasterOfAll version of the Shadow Dragons, and is the strongest villain pre-''Battle of Gods'' era, but his overall motivations and connection to the idea of karma punishment to the heroes is just tossed aside in favor of him being a GenericDoomsdayVillain.

** The song's its [[https://youtu.be/JPsgPWzgBYA?t=5s Canadian]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJcuDgVYjgI original Japanese]] counterparts are equally awesome.

* UnfortunateImplications: [[https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-gt-dragon-book-gt-back-then-kozo-morishita-interview/ An interview with GT's producer Kozo Morishita]] [[https://comicbook.com/anime/news/dragon-ball-gt-pan-super-saiyan-reason-anime-manga/ revealed the reason]] that Pan had never gone Super Saiyan in the series despite it being completely within her capability to do so as revealed with her descendent Goku Jr. doing so without a single problem. The reason was that she was designed to be a damsel in distress and cause situations for Goku to get serious and save her and if she attained Super Saiyan, she'd be too strong to warrant that motivation for Goku. This would not help Dragon Ball's reputation with the poor treatment of their female characters, as the main female lead bordered on FauxActionGirl and was an enforced DamselInDistress in a series all about fighting, her role of being purposely put as a woman in constant need of rescue while her male companions constantly defeat the villain of the week won her no fans.

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Toward the end of the battle with Super 17, Android 18 appears and challenges him to kill her. She then proceeds to rip off part of her shirt, exposing her bra and telling him that it should be an easier target, just as the camera zooms in on her breast. No one comments on this and it seemed to only be there for some bizarre fanservice.

* {{Macekre}}:
** {{Averted|Trope}} in the UK and Canada, where the series had a different dub done by [[Creator/TheOceanGroup Blue Water Studios]], using the original Japanese score, scripts with proper, accurate translations, and generally a tone that matched the original Japanese version perfectly. As a TV dub produced by Ocean, many assume it would be heavily censored and edited for time, just like the Creator/{{Saban|Entertainment}}-produced 1996 dub of the first two seasons of ''DBZ'', the Trimark-produced 1995 dub of the first season of original series, and the AB Groupe-produced "Westwood" dub of Seasons 4 onwards of ''DBZ'',[[note]]Which used the same scripts as the TV edit of Funimation's dub, with some small adjustments likely ad-libbed by the actors in the studio, and had tons of little trims including coverage shots and many closeups that were removed; most of these, you wouldn't notice in normal viewing, but ultimately it meant it was a TV dub through-and-through[[/note]] but in fact, aside from one 15-second sequence from episode 8 [[{{Bowdlerise}} that had to be cut due to Goku's junk showing]], the dub is actually entirely uncut, and unlike previous TV dubs, instead of censoring hell to HFIL,[[note]]Home For Infinite Losers[[/note]] they went with "Hades", or "The Underworld", depending on the context.[[note]]Granted, you could argue this is still censorship, but if you didn't know about it, you wouldn't notice it. Plus, it sounds really cool...[[/note]]
** Actually happened with the French dub. They fired the whole cast of veteran voice actors who had gone on strike over wage disputes, and hired a poor cast to replace everyone, when even now Goku and Vegeta's voice actor (to only mention them) have reached proper fame and legend status in France, reprising their roles for ''Super''. Also, they fudged the translation quite a bit (namely [[DubInducedPlotHole references to Vegeta NOT being a pure Saiyan?!]]) and added tons of wacky dialogue (Gohan going on [[{{Narm}} an emo rant about how he hates Piccolo for dying on him]]) that felt very out of place, and it can be argued that this is one of the biggest reasons why ''GT'' got so much hate in France.
** In Germany, tons of episodes were skipped, the ones that were dubbed were heavily cut-down and edited into each-other in a rather haphazard way, and the scripts were based on the French dub.