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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: With the franchise officially ending in 2020, many interesting sub-plots are dropped without ever getting the chance to be properly developed. Some examples are Starfire vowing to return to her home planet and dethrone her sister, Deadshot trying to rebuild his life as a free man, and Cale swearing revenge on Wonder Woman.
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If the problem with the final film is its bleak tone, I believe Darkness Induced Audience Apathy is a better fit.
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** The movies focusing on Batman and his supporting cast at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
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** The movies focusing released between 2014 and 2017 focused on Batman and his supporting cast at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing stole all the spotlight ''again''.
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* EndingAversion: With the final film being relentlessly bleak and ending with [[spoiler:a timeline reboot that renders the entire series meaningless]], fans have found it difficult to commit to the series or recommend it to others.
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* EndingAversion: DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: With the final film being relentlessly bleak and ending with [[spoiler:a timeline reboot that renders the entire series meaningless]], fans have found it difficult to commit to the series or recommend it to others.
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** Later movies have definitely improved when moving away from the ComicBook/New52 influence and the Batman focus to deliver better stories in general with a grander scale. ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' in particular is considered a hallmark of the universe for adapting one of the most iconic stories in all of comics.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However, his tendency to lose several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke, led both to complaints that he does not get the respect he deserves and to jokes that Dick's destiny is to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receiving too much CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. However, his attitude significantly improved starting with ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'', in which he endured some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. He also became less of a SpotlightStealingSquad, with ''The Judas Contract'' giving him the least screen time of the main Titans.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. This also applies to the New 52 version of Wally who appears once, and as a corpse.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However, his tendency to lose several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke, led both to complaints that he does not get the respect he deserves and to jokes that Dick's destiny is to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receiving too much CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. However, his attitude significantly improved starting with ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'', in which he endured some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. He also became less of a SpotlightStealingSquad, with ''The Judas Contract'' giving him the least screen time of the main Titans.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. This also applies to the New 52 version of Wally who appears once, and as a corpse.
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** Later movies have definitely improved when moving moved away from the ComicBook/New52 ''ComicBook/New52'' influence and the Batman focus to deliver better stories in general with a grander scale. ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' in particular is considered a hallmark of the universe for adapting one of the most iconic stories in all of comics.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However, his tendency to lose several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman,or Deathstroke, or Scarecrow, led both to complaints that he does not get the respect he deserves and to jokes that Dick's destiny is to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receiving too muchCharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything.CharacterShilling. However, his attitude significantly improved starting with ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'', in which he endured some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. He also became less of a SpotlightStealingSquad, with ''The Judas Contract'' giving him the least screen time out of the all main Titans.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. This also applies to the New 52 version of Wally who appears only once, and as a corpse.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However, his tendency to lose several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman,
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receiving too much
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. This also applies to the New 52 version of Wally who appears only once, and as a corpse.
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** Later movies have definitely improved when moving away from the ComicBook/New52 influence and the Batman focus to deliver better stories in general with a grander scale. ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' is considered a hallmark of the universe for adapting one of the most iconic stories in all of comics, as opposed to a New 52-based storyline.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However, he tends to lose several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke, leading to fans complaining that the writers don't seem to have any respect for Nightwing or that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receiving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. However, his attitude significantly improved starting with ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'', in which he endured some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. He also became less of a SpotlightStealingSquad, with ''The Judas Contract'' giving him the least screen time of the main Titans.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However, he tends to lose several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke, leading to fans complaining that the writers don't seem to have any respect for Nightwing or that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receiving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. However, his attitude significantly improved starting with ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'', in which he endured some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. He also became less of a SpotlightStealingSquad, with ''The Judas Contract'' giving him the least screen time of the main Titans.
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** Later movies have definitely improved when moving away from the ComicBook/New52 influence and the Batman focus to deliver better stories in general with a grander scale. ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' in particular is considered a hallmark of the universe for adapting one of the most iconic stories in all of comics, as opposed to a New 52-based storyline.
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* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However,he tends his tendency to lose several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke, leading led both to fans complaining complaints that he does not get the writers don't seem to have any respect for Nightwing or he deserves and to jokes that it's Dick's destiny is to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receivingplenty of too much CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. However, his attitude significantly improved starting with ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'', in which he endured some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. He also became less of a SpotlightStealingSquad, with ''The Judas Contract'' giving him the least screen time of the main Titans.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and was trained by Batman himself. However,
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne was originally detested for being an unlikable jerk and receiving
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** Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to date.
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** Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to date.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The film series was initially based upon the {{ComicBook/New 52}}, which was a contentious period among comic book fans due to its major liberties with the characters involved and darker tone. While the series eventually moved away from being based primarily on the New 52, they could never shake off the first impression, and had less expressive sales when compared to previous DC animated movies. The franchise eventually ended in 2020, with DC Animation wanting to refocus on standalone stories.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by diversifying their DC influences besides just being "Animated New 52" so they could adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'' stuff, while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the Supermen'' are seen as a step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the source material, not to mention giving focus to Superman and Lois Lane, even Lex Luthor when they'd been critically underutilized prior. As a result of that, hilariously enough, all three of them have minor roles in the latest Batman-focused movie ''WesternAnimation/BatmanHush''.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying Sue character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by diversifying their DC influences besides just being "Animated New 52" so they could adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'' stuff, while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the Supermen'' are seen as a step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the source material, not to mention giving focus to Superman and Lois Lane, even Lex Luthor when they'd been critically underutilized prior. As a result of that, hilariously enough, all three of them have minor roles in the latest Batman-focused movie ''WesternAnimation/BatmanHush''.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying Sue character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The film series was initially based upon drew heavy influence from the {{ComicBook/New 52}}, ComicBook/New52, which was a contentious period among comic book fans due to its taking major liberties with the characters involved and having a darker tone. While the series later films eventually moved away from being based primarily on the New 52, source material and developed their own identity, they could never shake off the first impression, and had less expressive sales when compared to previous DC animated movies.movies as a result. The franchise eventually ended in 2020, with DC Animation wanting to refocus on standalone stories.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Theuniverse franchise was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] the ''Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse'' when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by diversifying their DC influences besides just being "Animated New 52" so they could to adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'' stuff, stories, while adding their own elements. Characters other than Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co received some much needed development, with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. the latter. Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the Supermen'' are seen as a step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the source material, not to mention giving focus to Superman and Superman, Lois Lane, even Lane and Lex Luthor when they'd Luthor, whom had been critically underutilized prior. As a result of that, hilariously enough, all three of them have minor roles in the latest Batman-focused movie ''WesternAnimation/BatmanHush''.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated byfans]], he's grown more into this role the majority of viewers]], he won over time, since more some fans have come to like him due to after his character development over the films into a humbler and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. cooperative young hero. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying Sue character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like writers]], with his victories over the likes of Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.a notorious source of derision.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by
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** Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material and didn't needed to [[KillThemAll end]] like it [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun ended]]. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful attitude or dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which led to lower sales and fan reception. Then there's another group that hated the idea of an interconnected universe and are glad that Warner Animation will return to standalone movies.
** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material and didn't needed to [[KillThemAll end]] like it [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun ended]]. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful attitude or dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which led to lower sales and fan reception. Then there's another group that hated the idea of an interconnected universe and are glad that Warner Animation will return to standalone movies.
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** Whether or not the focus The movies focusing on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
** The decision to end theuniverse franchise with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among War''. Many fans with many fans feeling feel that the universe and characters still had potential for more interesting stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material and didn't needed to [[KillThemAll end]] like it [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun ended]]. Other feels material. However, those who disliked the idea of a shared universe feel that ending the universe series was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful attitude or dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which led to lower sales and fan reception. Then there's another group that hated the idea breath of an interconnected universe fresh air and are glad that Warner Animation will return to standalone movies.
** The decision to end the
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** Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. Case in point? ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to date.
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** Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. Case in point? ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to date.
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* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing really falls into this. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend to see him lose a lot, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't have any respect for Nightwing and that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies. [[spoiler:''Justice League Dark: Apokolips War'' takes the cake where he gets murdered by a Paradoom, and is then revived with The Lazarus Pit, being made irreversibly insane.]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne. Originally, even fans of him in the comics detested him for being an unlikable jerk and recieving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. Thankfully, a multi-movie arc has significantly improved his attitude and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' had him endure some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. It also helps that the writers lessened their focus once they heard complaints that this was the "Damian Universe", and thus he isn't shoved in as much at the expense of others (for reference, ''The Judas Contract'' may have portrayed him as the ''least'' prominent of the main Titans, and that's partially due to him being taken out by Deathstroke first and leaving him out of commission until the end).
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West, appropriately. He shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. Same applies to the New 52 version of Wally who appears once...and as a corpse.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne. Originally, even fans of him in the comics detested him for being an unlikable jerk and recieving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. Thankfully, a multi-movie arc has significantly improved his attitude and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' had him endure some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. It also helps that the writers lessened their focus once they heard complaints that this was the "Damian Universe", and thus he isn't shoved in as much at the expense of others (for reference, ''The Judas Contract'' may have portrayed him as the ''least'' prominent of the main Titans, and that's partially due to him being taken out by Deathstroke first and leaving him out of commission until the end).
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West, appropriately. He shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. Same applies to the New 52 version of Wally who appears once...and as a corpse.
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* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing really falls into this. Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend he tends to see him lose a lot, several fights, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten Deathstroke, leading to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't seem to have any respect for Nightwing and or that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies. [[spoiler:''Justice League Dark: Apokolips War'' takes the cake where he gets murdered by a Paradoom, and is then revived with The Lazarus Pit, being made irreversibly insane.]]
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: DamianWayne. Originally, even fans of him in the comics Wayne was originally detested him for being an unlikable jerk and recieving receiving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. Thankfully, a multi-movie arc has However, his attitude significantly improved his attitude and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' had him endure starting with ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'', in which he endured some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. It He also helps that the writers lessened their focus once they heard complaints that this was the "Damian Universe", and thus he isn't shoved in as much at the expense became less of others (for reference, a SpotlightStealingSquad, with ''The Judas Contract'' may have portrayed giving him as the ''least'' prominent least screen time of the main Titans, and that's partially due to him being taken out by Deathstroke first and leaving him out of commission until the end).
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: WallyWest, appropriately. He West shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. Same This also applies to the New 52 version of Wally who appears once...once, and as a corpse.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The film series was initially based upon the {{ComicBook/New 52}}, which was a contentious period among comic book fans due to its major liberties with the characters involved and darker tone. While the series eventually moved away from being based primarily on the New 52, they could never shake off the first impression, and eventually ended in 2020 partly due to DC Animation wanting to refocus on standalone stories due to how critically and commercially poorly the films did.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The film series was initially based upon the {{ComicBook/New 52}}, which was a contentious period among comic book fans due to its major liberties with the characters involved and darker tone. While the series eventually moved away from being based primarily on the New 52, they could never shake off the first impression, and had less expressive sales when compared to previous DC animated movies. The franchise eventually ended in 2020 partly due to 2020, with DC Animation wanting to refocus on standalone stories due to how critically and commercially poorly the films did.stories.
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** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful attitude or dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which led to lower sales and fan reception.
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** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material.material and didn't needed to [[KillThemAll end]] like it [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun ended]]. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful attitude or dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which led to lower sales and fan reception. Then there's another group that hated the idea of an interconnected universe and are glad that Warner Animation will return to standalone movies.
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** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful/dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which to lower sales and fan reception.
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** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful/dislike dismisful attitude or dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which led to lower sales and fan reception.
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* BrokenBase: Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
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** Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight''again''.''again''.
** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful/dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which to lower sales and fan reception.
** Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight
** The decision to end the universe with ''Apokolips War'' has become another point of contention among fans with many fans feeling that the universe and characters still had potential for more stories due to no longer being constrained by the ''New 52'' source material. Other feels that ending the universe was a MercyKill as the first negative impressions never went away with many fans still having a very dismisful/dislike towards this universe thanks to movies like ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'', ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanVsRobin'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' which to lower sales and fan reception.
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]], [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]] and [[WesternAnimation/WonderWomanBloodlines Medusa]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]], Dar]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen kse]][[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDarkApokolipsWar id]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]], [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]] and [[WesternAnimation/WonderWomanBloodlines Medusa]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]], [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]] and [[WesternAnimation/WonderWomanBloodlines Medusa]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]], [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]] and [[WesternAnimation/WonderWomanBloodlines Medusa]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West, appropriately. He shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. Same applies to the New 52Wally who appears once...and as a corpse.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West, appropriately. He shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. Same applies to the New 52Wally 52 version of Wally who appears once...and as a corpse.
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* EndingAversion: With the final film being relentlessly bleak and ending with [[spoiler:a timeline reboot that renders the entire series meaningless]], fans have found it difficult to commit to the series or recommend it to others.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wally West, appropriately. He shows up once in a flashback and is never referenced again in the present day. Same applies to the New 52Wally who appears once...and as a corpse.
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* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing really falls into this. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend to see him lose a lot, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't have any respect for Nightwing and that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies. [[spoiler: "Justice League Dark: Apokolips War" takes the cake where he gets murdered by a Paradoom, and is then revived with The Lazarus Pit, being made irreversibly insane.]]
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* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing really falls into this. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend to see him lose a lot, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't have any respect for Nightwing and that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies. [[spoiler: "Justice [[spoiler:''Justice League Dark: Apokolips War" War'' takes the cake where he gets murdered by a Paradoom, and is then revived with The Lazarus Pit, being made irreversibly insane.]]
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* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend to see him lose a lot, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't have any respect for Nightwing and that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
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* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing.Grayson/Nightwing really falls into this. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend to see him lose a lot, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't have any respect for Nightwing and that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies. [[spoiler: "Justice League Dark: Apokolips War" takes the cake where he gets murdered by a Paradoom, and is then revived with The Lazarus Pit, being made irreversibly insane.]]
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The film series was initially based upon the {{ComicBook/New 52}}, which was a contentious period among comic book fans due to its major liberties with the characters involved and darker tone. While the series eventually moved away from being based primarily on the New 52, the films could never shake off the first impression, and eventually ended in 2020 partly due to DC Animation wanting to refocus on standalone stories due to how critically and commercially poorly the films did.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The film series was initially based upon the {{ComicBook/New 52}}, which was a contentious period among comic book fans due to its major liberties with the characters involved and darker tone. While the series eventually moved away from being based primarily on the New 52, the films they could never shake off the first impression, and eventually ended in 2020 partly due to DC Animation wanting to refocus on standalone stories due to how critically and commercially poorly the films did.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The film series was initially based upon the {{ComicBook/New 52}}, which was a contentious period among comic book fans due to its major liberties with the characters involved and darker tone. While the series eventually moved away from being based primarily on the New 52, the films could never shake off the first impression, and eventually ended in 2020 partly due to DC Animation wanting to refocus on standalone stories due to how critically and commercially poorly the films did.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by rebranding itself under the current title rather than "Animated New 52" so they could more easily adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'', while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the Supermen'' are seen as a step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the source material, not to mention giving focus to Superman and Lois Lane, even Lex Luthor when they'd been critically underutilized prior. As a result of that, hilariously enough, all three of them have minor roles in the latest Batman-focused movie ''WesternAnimation/BatmanHush''.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by rebranding itself under the current title rather than diversifying their DC influences besides just being "Animated New 52" so they could more easily adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'', ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'' stuff, while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the Supermen'' are seen as a step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the source material, not to mention giving focus to Superman and Lois Lane, even Lex Luthor when they'd been critically underutilized prior. As a result of that, hilariously enough, all three of them have minor roles in the latest Batman-focused movie ''WesternAnimation/BatmanHush''.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by rebranding itself under the current title rather than "Animated New 52" so they could more easily adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'', while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the Supermen'' are seen as a step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the source material.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by rebranding itself under the current title rather than "Animated New 52" so they could more easily adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'', while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the Supermen'' are seen as a step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the source material.material, not to mention giving focus to Superman and Lois Lane, even Lex Luthor when they'd been critically underutilized prior. As a result of that, hilariously enough, all three of them have minor roles in the latest Batman-focused movie ''WesternAnimation/BatmanHush''.
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]] and [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]] and Destiny]], [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]].Nergal]] and [[WesternAnimation/WonderWomanBloodlines Medusa]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by rebranding itself under the current title rather than "Animated New 52" so they could more easily adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'', while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. While it may [[NeverLiveItDown never fully live down]] some of the divisive elements from the earlier "Damian Universe", it's nonetheless seen as a worthy successor to the DCAU in its own right.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by rebranding itself under the current title rather than "Animated New 52" so they could more easily adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'', while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. While it may [[NeverLiveItDown never fully live down]] some Both the ''Death of Superman'' and ''Reign of the divisive elements from the earlier "Damian Universe", it's nonetheless Supermen'' are seen as a worthy successor step in the right direction due to having the spirit and tone of the Post-Crisis era and being relatively loyal to the DCAU in its own right.source material.
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* BrokenBase:
** In general, it's easier to say which of the movies based on the ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'' comics ''aren't'' this.
** Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
** In general, it's easier to say which of the movies based on the ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'' comics ''aren't'' this.
** Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
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** In general, it's easier to say which of the movies based on the ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'' comics ''aren't'' this.
**BrokenBase: Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
** In general, it's easier to say which of the movies based on the ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'' comics ''aren't'' this.
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]] [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]] and [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]] seid]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]] and [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]] and [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar Dark]][[WesternAnimation/ReignOfTheSupermen seid]] [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]] and [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], and [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], and [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]].Destiny]] and [[WesternAnimation/ConstantineCityOfDemons Nergal]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying JerkSue character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying JerkSue Sue character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying MartyStu character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying MartyStu JerkSue character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying MartyStu character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The universe was considered below par compared to its [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse older brother]] when it started, for factors such as being a universe based on the contentious ComicBook/New52, [[SpotlightStealingSquad focusing way too much on Damian Wayne]], and not really feeling like a proper universe but just "Batman and others". The creators improved their craft and storytelling later on, first by rebranding itself under the current title rather than "Animated New 52" so they could more easily adapt ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and ''ComicBook/PostCrisis'', while adding their own elements. Damian has been focused on and shilled ''way'' less than before, and they've began exploring stories outside of Batman and co with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' actually being the first animated movie in five years not to feature him. While it may [[NeverLiveItDown never fully live down]] some of the divisive elements from the earlier "Damian Universe", it's nonetheless seen as a worthy successor to the DCAU in its own right.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying MartyStu character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying MartyStu character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token. Later movies seem to have caught on, making him less god-like in ''The Judas Contract'' (where he was in fact the first Titan to be taken out) and giving him less focus in general.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. Case in point? ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to date.
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** Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. Case in point? ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film todate.date.
** Later movies have definitely improved when moving away from the ComicBook/New52 influence and the Batman focus to deliver better stories in general with a grander scale. ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' is considered a hallmark of the universe for adapting one of the most iconic stories in all of comics, as opposed to a New 52-based storyline.
** Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. Case in point? ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to
** Later movies have definitely improved when moving away from the ComicBook/New52 influence and the Batman focus to deliver better stories in general with a grander scale. ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' is considered a hallmark of the universe for adapting one of the most iconic stories in all of comics, as opposed to a New 52-based storyline.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne. Originally, even fans of him in the comics detested him for being an unlikable jerk and recieving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. Thankfully, a multi-movie arc has significantly improved his attitude and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' had him endure some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player. It also helps that the writers lessened their focus once they heard complaints that this was the "Damian Universe", and thus he isn't shoved in as much at the expense of others (for reference, ''The Judas Contract'' may have portrayed him as the ''least'' prominent of the main Titans, and that's partially due to him being taken out by Deathstroke first and leaving him out of commission until the end).
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Damian Wayne. While initially [[TheScrappy hated by fans]], he's grown more into this role over time, since more fans have come to like him due to his character development over the films and having grown a bit more humble and open to his teammates over time. On the flip side, he still has his detractors who feel that he's an annoying MartyStu character who repeatedly gets to show up everybody else and gets [[CreatorsPet too much preferential treatment from the writers]]. The fact that he's taken down people like Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman, Talon, and even Superman himself at one point has made him the object of derision from those fans. Damian Wayne is not universally hated by any stretch but he's far from being universally loved by fans in the same token.
* BrokenBase:
** In general, it's easier to say which of the movies based on the ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'' comics ''aren't'' this.
** Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], and [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
* GrowingTheBeard: Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. Case in point? ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to date.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend to see him lose a lot, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't have any respect for Nightwing and that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne. Originally, even fans of him in the comics detested him for being an unlikable jerk and recieving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. Thankfully, a multi-movie arc has significantly improved his attitude and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' had him endure some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player.
* BrokenBase:
** In general, it's easier to say which of the movies based on the ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'' comics ''aren't'' this.
** Whether or not the focus on Batman and his supporting cast in the recent movies at the expense of everyone else. Fans either don't care or think Batman is stealing all the spotlight ''again''.
* CompleteMonster: [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox Professor Zoom]], [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman Death]][[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract stroke]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueThroneOfAtlantis Black Manta]], [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood Talia al Ghul]], [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans Trigon]], and [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDark Destiny]]. See [[Monster/DCAnimation here]].
* GrowingTheBeard: Beginning with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', audience reception towards the films in this universe has been warmer, thanks to a wider emphasis on ensemble casts and moving away from focusing only on Damian. Case in point? ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' is considered by many to be the strongest film to date.
* MemeticLoser: Dick Grayson/Nightwing. He's a skilled fighter in his own right and lest we forget, he was trained by Batman himself. However, a large portion of his fights tend to see him lose a lot, whether it's at the hands of Damian Wayne, Talon, a brainwashed Batman, or Deathstroke. It's gotten to the point where fans are complaining that the writers don't have any respect for Nightwing and that it's Dick's destiny to be the whipping boy of the DC animated movies.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian Wayne. Originally, even fans of him in the comics detested him for being an unlikable jerk and recieving plenty of CharacterShilling, showing up all the characters at virtually everything. Thankfully, a multi-movie arc has significantly improved his attitude and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueVsTeenTitans'' had him endure some BreakTheHaughty while also becoming more of a team-player.
