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** Half the fanbase now considers Litchi this especially after [[spoiler:her FaceHeelTurn]]. One base thinks it's good that she's finally in the main meat of storyline, another base think she's a complete idiot for [[spoiler:doing so]]. Another base think she's still tragic in [[spoiler:doing things she didn't want to]], and another base think her true nature is one of being [[spoiler:a completely selfish and obsessive bitch]]. In other words, read the SlidingScaleOfUnavoidableAndUnforgivable. Half of them considers Litchi's actions to be in the 'Unavoidable' camp, the rest is in 'Unforgivable' camp.

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** Half the fanbase now considers Litchi this especially after [[spoiler:her FaceHeelTurn]]. One base thinks it's good that she's finally in the main meat of storyline, another base think she's a complete idiot for [[spoiler:doing so]]. Another base think she's still tragic in [[spoiler:doing things she didn't want to]], and another base think her true nature is one of being [[spoiler:a completely selfish and obsessive bitch]]. In other words, read the SlidingScaleOfUnavoidableAndUnforgivable. Half of them SlidingScaleOfUnavoidableVersusUnforgivable. Some considers Litchi's actions to be in the 'Unavoidable' camp, the rest is in 'Unforgivable' camp.

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** Half the fanbase now considers Litchi this especially after [[spoiler:her FaceHeelTurn]]. One base thinks it's good that she's finally in the main meat of storyline, another base think she's a complete idiot for [[spoiler:doing so]]. Another base think she's still tragic in [[spoiler:doing things she didn't want to]], and another base think her true nature is one of being [[spoiler:a completely selfish and obsessive bitch]].

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** Half the fanbase now considers Litchi this especially after [[spoiler:her FaceHeelTurn]]. One base thinks it's good that she's finally in the main meat of storyline, another base think she's a complete idiot for [[spoiler:doing so]]. Another base think she's still tragic in [[spoiler:doing things she didn't want to]], and another base think her true nature is one of being [[spoiler:a completely selfish and obsessive bitch]]. In other words, read the SlidingScaleOfUnavoidableAndUnforgivable. Half of them considers Litchi's actions to be in the 'Unavoidable' camp, the rest is in 'Unforgivable' camp.
** Makoto as well. There's a camp for those who thinks she always will be the lovable squirrel girl, as well as taking over the 'MsFanservice and Good Morality Queen' throne when they think Litchi failed, there's also camp for those who thinks she hasn't beaten Litchi in that term. Then there's a camp who thinks her only purpose is for shameless fanservice. Then there's also a camp who thinks she's slowly growing into a dreaded MarySue.
** And lest we forget... Hazama/Terumi himself! A 'shallow' CompleteMonster who's... [[LaughablyEvil fun, entertaining and hilarious]]? Or is he just so utterly atrocious that all those 'fun, entertaining and hilarious' factors get squished with extreme prejudice and he is a VillainSue who is totally devoid of positive qualities even for those beyond the fourth wall, ranking so high up there in depravity and unlikableness like [[MegamanZero Dr. Weil]] and [[DigimonSavers Akihiro Kurata]]?



** Also Relius. [[spoiler:See LargeHam entry below.]]

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** Also Relius. [[spoiler:See LargeHam entry below.]]Relius... when played by TravisWillingham. JunichiSuwabe's performance is a much more stoic one (equally effective in evil, though)


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** Aaand good luck with Unlimited Mars, where you fight against a marathon of Unlimited Characters... ''with highest difficulty''.
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*** Three words: ''Continuum Shift II''. There are people who think that it's the most balanced version of the game yet, and then there are the people who despise the new metagame which, instead of rewarding you for stylish combos, now rewards you for getting your opponent in the corner and raping them. Said people claim that ArcSystemWorks essentially tried turning it into VideoGame/GuiltyGear, and failed.

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*** ** Three words: ''Continuum Shift II''. There are people who think that it's the most balanced version of the game yet, and then there are the people who despise the new metagame which, instead of rewarding you for stylish combos, now rewards you for getting your opponent in the corner and raping them. Said people claim that ArcSystemWorks essentially tried turning it into VideoGame/GuiltyGear, and failed.

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*** ... You know what, look back at Hazama's opening movie. He just walks casually to the stage of Mu-12... activates the thing there... then cue to NOL branch, lots and lots of NOL soldiers, [[PunchClockVillain random joes just doing their job and earn their living]], being reduced to orbs (those are their souls) and the orbs was sucked into that... thing to activate Mu-12. Cue the psychotic laughter of Terumi.
*** His story mode ''opens'' with him massacring Kagutsuchi's entire NOL branch (with the ''sole'' exceptions of Jin, Noel, Tsubaki and Makoto), just to fuel Kusanagi with their souls.

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*** ... You know what, look back at Hazama's opening movie. He just walks casually to the stage of Mu-12... activates the thing there... then cue to NOL branch, lots and lots of NOL soldiers, [[PunchClockVillain random joes just doing their job and earn their living]], being reduced to orbs (those are their souls) and the orbs was sucked into that... thing to activate Mu-12. Cue the psychotic laughter of Terumi.
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Terumi. [[spoiler:Long story mode ''opens'' with him massacring Kagutsuchi's entire NOL short, Tsubaki's the only survivor of the Kagutsuchi branch (with still loyal to the ''sole'' exceptions NOL due to [[{{Brainwashed}} brainwashing]]. Noel defected after Ragna broke her tempering, Jin defected after the events of Jin, Noel, Tsubaki ''Calamity Trigger'', and Makoto), just if Makoto [[ReverseMole hadn't turned traitor prior to fuel Kusanagi with their souls.her arrival at the Kagutsuchi branch]], she sure did then.]]
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*** His story mode ''opens'' with him massacring Kagutsuchi's entire NOL branch (with the ''sole'' exceptions of Jin, Noel, Tsubaki and Makoto), just to fuel Kusanagi.

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*** His story mode ''opens'' with him massacring Kagutsuchi's entire NOL branch (with the ''sole'' exceptions of Jin, Noel, Tsubaki and Makoto), just to fuel Kusanagi.Kusanagi with their souls.
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*** His story mode ''opens'' with him massacring Kagutsuchi's entire NOL branch (with the ''sole'' exceptions of Jin, Noel, Tsubaki and Makoto), just to fuel Kusanagi.
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** Speaking of, there's also [[spoiler:Relius Clover. While he is an extremely callous individual, to the point of being the secondary CompleteMonster, it is important to note that everything he does, no matter how ghastly, is in the name of science. This ranges from his handling of the Clover ladies to the invocation of the Black Beast in ''That Which Is Inherited'' to even - gasp - the MindRape of Makoto Nanaya. Also, in his Arcade mode, he never acts aggressively towards his designated opponents, and he even warns Carl, the very son who has been unerringly hounding him for the entire story, not to throw his life away in such a mad pursuit. Is it possible that something befell Ada that moving her into Nirvana was necessary, and that events conspired to keep him from explaining to Carl?]]

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** Speaking of, there's also [[spoiler:Relius Clover. While he is an extremely callous individual, to the point of being the secondary CompleteMonster, it is important to note that everything he does, no matter how ghastly, is in the name of science. This ranges from his handling of the Clover ladies to the invocation of the Black Beast in ''That Which Is Inherited'' to even - gasp - the MindRape of Makoto Nanaya. Also, in his Arcade mode, he never acts aggressively towards his designated opponents, and he even warns Carl, the very son who has been unerringly hounding him for the entire story, not to throw his life away in such a mad pursuit. In Relius' Story mode (Darkness Visible), he gives Carl a glimpse of the world through his own viewpoint instead of coldly assailing him as seen in Carl's story. Is it possible that something befell Ada that moving her into Nirvana was necessary, and that events conspired to keep him from explaining to Carl?]]Carl? Maybe not, but that leaves the question where his [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatism]] ends and the [[CompleteMonster monstrosity]] begins.]]
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*** Three words: ''Continuum Shift II''. There are people who think that it's the most balanced version of the game yet, and then there are the people who despise the new metagame which, instead of rewarding you for stylish combos, now rewards you for getting your opponent in the corner and raping them. Said people claim that ArcSystemWorks essentially tried turning it into GuiltyGear, and failed.

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*** Three words: ''Continuum Shift II''. There are people who think that it's the most balanced version of the game yet, and then there are the people who despise the new metagame which, instead of rewarding you for stylish combos, now rewards you for getting your opponent in the corner and raping them. Said people claim that ArcSystemWorks essentially tried turning it into GuiltyGear, VideoGame/GuiltyGear, and failed.



* VillainSue: Hazama. He ensures everything [[TheChessmaster goes perfectly for him with backup plan after backup plan]], is well beyond all over characters in terms of power and [[SmugSnake smugness]], and he just ''never'' loses. '''[[BoringInvincibleVillain Ever]]'''. There have only been [[spoiler: three occasions where he has been legitimately overpowered and defeated by other characters, and even '''''then''''' two were [[XanatosGambit all part of his plan]] and the other one was [[RuleOfFunny in a joke ending]].]]

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* VillainSue: Hazama. He ensures everything [[TheChessmaster goes perfectly for him with backup plan after backup plan]], is well beyond all over characters in terms of power and [[SmugSnake smugness]], and he just ''never'' loses. '''[[BoringInvincibleVillain Ever]]'''. There have only been [[spoiler: three occasions where he has been legitimately overpowered and defeated by other characters, and even '''''then''''' two were [[XanatosGambit all part of his plan]] and the other one was [[RuleOfFunny in a joke ending]].]]
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** Speaking of, there's also [[spoiler:Relius Clover. While he is an extremely callous individual, to the point of being the secondary CompleteMonster, it is important to note that everything he does, no matter how ghastly, is in the name of science. This ranges from his handling of the Clover ladies to the invocation of the Black Beast in ''That Which Is Inherited'' to even - gasp - the MindRape of Makoto Nanaya. Also, in his Arcade mode, he never acts aggressively towards his designated opponents, and he even warns Carl, the very son who has been unerringly hounding him for the entire story, not to throw his life away in such a mad pursuit. Is it possible that something befell Ada that moving her into Nirvana was necessary, and that events conspired to keep him from explaining to Carl?]]
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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], her variant of Altar of the Puppet is visually demeaning and vocally disturbing (listen to him talk, then let it set in), she clearly wants none of it, and then there's [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1DysfMvz4&feature=channel bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?

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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], her variant of Altar of the Puppet is visually demeaning and vocally disturbing (listen to him talk, then let it set in), she clearly wants none of it, and then there's [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1DysfMvz4&feature=channel Extend bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?

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** Rachel is hated for being absolute garbage in ''Continuum Shift''.

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** Rachel is hated for being absolute garbage in In ''Continuum Shift''.Shift'', Rachel is so hilariously underpowered that she's considered to be nigh unplayable.



** Litchi Faye-Ling is tied with Bang as the most powerful character in the original ''Continuum Shift''. Her damage output was ridiculously high and her moves were [[ConfusionFu extremely unpredictable]], making her as bad as Arakune in ''Calamity Trigger''. Luckily, [[DifficultButAwesome her complicated moveset meant anyone who really wanted to abuse her meant they need to put in a lot of practice]].
** Although this is lessened by the fact she's the game's BreakoutCharacter and number one EnsembleDarkhorse, Taokaka took a drop in popularity in ''Continuum Shift'' for having the [[FanNickname Taunt Loop]], the game's only '''[[GameBreaker infinite combo]]'''. One mistake was all it took for a decent Taokaka player to repeatedly hit you with this combo until you died.



** Ragna used to be this in ''Continuum Shift 1'', but he was quickly replaced in ''Continuum Shift 2'' by NOEL of all people.

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** Ragna used to be this in ''Continuum Shift 1'', Shift'', but he was quickly replaced in ''Continuum Shift 2'' by NOEL of all people.people.
** In ''Continuum Shift 2'', we have Noel's best bud Makoto. With her ridiculously high damage output, high speed, good hit-stun and easy-to-use combos, many people complained when they found that Makoto could easily force them into the corner and then consistently rape them with 5-7k damage combos. She is considerably nerfed for ''Extend''.
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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], her variant of Altar of the Puppet is visually demeaning and vocally disturbing (listen to him talk, then let it set in), she clearly wants none of it, and then there's [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?

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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], her variant of Altar of the Puppet is visually demeaning and vocally disturbing (listen to him talk, then let it set in), she clearly wants none of it, and then there's [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend Extend]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1DysfMvz4&feature=channel bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?
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*** As mentioned above, Makoto's bad ending. What he does to her will most certainly make your blood boil.

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** Or its a really great way to get into the series for the first time, if you haven't played Blazblue before. Its 2 games for the price of 2/3's of one for me.
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** Or its a really great way to get into the series for the first time, if you haven't played Blazblue before. Its 2 games for the price of 2/3's of one for me.
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** For ''Extend'', Makoto's bad ending. [[MindRape Everything]] [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty about]] [[YourSoulIsMine it]] [[FateWorseThanDeath is]] [[BrainBleach royally]] [[KillTheCutie messed]] [[TearJerker up]].
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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], his obsession with Makoto's "immaculate soul" borders on the fetishistic, she clearly wants none of it, and then there's [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?
--> [[PunctuatedPounding "You're a colonel, and I don't care! EAT IT, CREEPER!"]]

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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], his obsession with Makoto's "immaculate soul" borders on her variant of Altar of the fetishistic, Puppet is visually demeaning and vocally disturbing (listen to him talk, then let it set in), she clearly wants none of it, and then there's [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?
--> [[PunctuatedPounding "You're a colonel, and I don't care! give a crap! EAT IT, CREEPER!"]]
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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], his obsession with Makoto's "immaculate soul" borders on the fetishistic, she clearly wants none of it, and then there's her [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?

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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], his obsession with Makoto's "immaculate soul" borders on the fetishistic, she clearly wants none of it, and then there's her [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?
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** Relius gets in on the action too. Call him a pedophile, a depraved homosexual, or a squirrel rapist (more on this in NoYay), his Altar of the Puppet just screams "rape time". Hard to say which of those titles is worse, though.


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* NoYay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, [[MemeticMolester Relius]], his obsession with Makoto's "immaculate soul" borders on the fetishistic, she clearly wants none of it, and then there's her [[http://images.wikia.com/blazblue/images/a/a8/BBCSEXMakotoStoryIllustration02.png her Extend bad ending]] ([[BrainBleach apply directly to the cortex...]]). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?
--> [[PunctuatedPounding "You're a colonel, and I don't care! EAT IT, CREEPER!"]]

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* VillainSue: Of course, this is [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], but there are those in the Blazblue fanbase who consider Hazama to be this. He ensures everything [[TheChessmaster goes perfectly for him with backup plan after backup plan]], is well beyond all over characters in terms of power and [[SmugSnake smugness]], and he just ''never'' loses. '''[[BoringInvincibleVillain Ever]]'''. There have only been [[spoiler: three occasions where he has been legitimately overpowered and defeated by other characters, and even '''''then''''' two were [[XanatosGambit all part of his plan]] and the other one was [[RuleOfFunny in a joke ending]].]]

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* VillainSue: Of course, this is [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], but there are those in the Blazblue fanbase who consider Hazama to be this.Hazama. He ensures everything [[TheChessmaster goes perfectly for him with backup plan after backup plan]], is well beyond all over characters in terms of power and [[SmugSnake smugness]], and he just ''never'' loses. '''[[BoringInvincibleVillain Ever]]'''. There have only been [[spoiler: three occasions where he has been legitimately overpowered and defeated by other characters, and even '''''then''''' two were [[XanatosGambit all part of his plan]] and the other one was [[RuleOfFunny in a joke ending]].]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Relius. His actions are basically like [[FullMetalAlchemist Shou Tucker's]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible even more horrifying]].]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Relius. His actions are basically like [[FullMetalAlchemist Shou Tucker's]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible [[UpToEleven even more horrifying]].]]
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* VillainSue: Of course, this is [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], but there are those in the Blazblue fanbase who consider him to be this. He ensures everything [[TheChessmaster goes perfectly for him with backup plan after backup plan]], is well beyond all over characters in terms of power and [[SmugSnake smugness]], and he just ''never'' loses. '''[[BoringInvincibleVillain Ever]]'''. There have only been [[spoiler: three occasions where he has been legitimately overpowered and defeated by other characters, and even '''''then''''' two were [[XanatosGambit all part of his plan]] and the other one was [[RuleOfFunny in a joke ending]].]]

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* VillainSue: Of course, this is [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], but there are those in the Blazblue fanbase who consider him Hazama to be this. He ensures everything [[TheChessmaster goes perfectly for him with backup plan after backup plan]], is well beyond all over characters in terms of power and [[SmugSnake smugness]], and he just ''never'' loses. '''[[BoringInvincibleVillain Ever]]'''. There have only been [[spoiler: three occasions where he has been legitimately overpowered and defeated by other characters, and even '''''then''''' two were [[XanatosGambit all part of his plan]] and the other one was [[RuleOfFunny in a joke ending]].]]
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* VillainSue: Of course, this is [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], but there are those in the Blazblue fanbase who consider him to be this. He ensures everything [[TheChessmaster goes perfectly for him with backup plan after backup plan]], is well beyond all over characters in terms of power and [[SmugSnake smugness]], and he just ''never'' loses. '''[[BoringInvincibleVillain Ever]]'''. There have only been [[spoiler: three occasions where he has been legitimately overpowered and defeated by other characters, and even '''''then''''' two were [[XanatosGambit all part of his plan]] and the other one was [[RuleOfFunny in a joke ending]].]]
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*** Three words: ''Continuum Shift II''. There are people who think that it's the most balanced version of the game yet, and then there are the people who despise the new metagame which, instead of rewarding you for stylish combos, now rewards you for getting your opponent in the corner and raping them. Said people claim that ArcSystemWorks essentially tried turning it into GuiltyGear, and failed.


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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ''Continuum Shift Extend''. It's the game you already have, but with more single player content, a new online system that probably isn't all that different, and all the DLC you paid for is already in the game, either unlocked from the beginning or unlockable. Add in the fact that Mori already said they want to wotk on a 3rd part, and now you have a lot of people unwilling to get the game because the aforementioned features being there from the start is essentially a big slap in the face.

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* FridgeBrilliance / FridgeHorror: Everything that went down in the True Ending was devised [[spoiler:by [[CompleteMonster Terumi]] as a distraction for the purpose of infiltrating/killing the Takamagahara. The world may have been saved (for now), but it was [[AllAccordingToPlan Exactly as Planned]] by [[VillainSue Terumi]].]]
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* FridgeBrilliance / FridgeHorror: Everything that went down in the True Ending was devised [[spoiler:by [[CompleteMonster Terumi]] as a distraction for the purpose of infiltrating/killing the Takamagahara. The world may have been saved (for now), but it was [[AllAccordingToPlan Exactly as Planned]] by [[VillainSue Terumi]].]]
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** Starting in Continuum Shift, each character has a list of 10 challenges, and (with the exception of the first two, which teach you the special attacks your character has) each challenge consists of one or two combos. Some of these combos are short, sweet, and fairly easy to pull off. These combos are often placed in Challenge 3 or 4, or occasionally 5. Challenge 10 for every single character is hell itself. And god help the Arakune players...
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** Of course, we can't forget Terumi either! He likes causing as much mayhem and destruction as possible [[ForTheEvulz just for fun]], plus the other reason he qualifies is mainly because he needs to be hated in order to continue to exist. That's saying something.
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* ThatOneSidequest: [[NintendoHard Score]] [[MKWalker Attack]]. Fucking [[SNKBoss Score]] [[LuckBasedMission Attack]]. The AI is ramped up in all the stages, making beating any of them a pain if you can't exploit them. Then you get the final four stages where you fight overpowered versions of 4 of the cast.

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* ThatOneSidequest: [[NintendoHard Score]] [[MKWalker [[PerfectPlayAI Attack]]. Fucking [[SNKBoss Score]] [[LuckBasedMission Attack]]. The AI is ramped up in all the stages, making beating any of them a pain if you can't exploit them. Then you get the final four stages where you fight overpowered versions of 4 of the cast.
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* RuinedForever: Continuum Shift wildly changed the direction of the series. While Calamity Trigger was mostly a [[SeriousBusiness serious game with a serious story and serious characters]], Continuum Shift adds a lot more fanservice, and laces even the most serious story paths with [[ComicRelief comedy]] that some enjoy, but that [[LoveItOrHateIt isn't for everyone]].

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* RuinedForever: Continuum Shift wildly changed the direction of the series. While Calamity Trigger was mostly a [[SeriousBusiness serious game with a serious story and serious characters]], Continuum Shift adds a lot more fanservice, and laces even the most serious story paths with [[ComicRelief comedy]] that some enjoy, but that [[LoveItOrHateIt isn't for everyone]].everyone.

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