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* HolyShitQuotient: The highest in the series, with [[spoiler: the Red Wedding, the Purple Wedding, the Red Viper vs. the Mountain, Ygritte's death, the battle for the Wall, Tyrion's murder of Tywin and Shae, Sam killing an Other, Stannis arriving at the Wall, Littlefinger revealed as being the BigBad of the first three books, Lady Stoneheart]], to name a few.


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* ShockingMoments: The highest in the series, with [[spoiler: the Red Wedding, the Purple Wedding, the Red Viper vs. the Mountain, Ygritte's death, the battle for the Wall, Tyrion's murder of Tywin and Shae, Sam killing an Other, Stannis arriving at the Wall, Littlefinger revealed as being the BigBad of the first three books, Lady Stoneheart]], to name a few.
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** For GenreSavvy readers, it was clear that archetypal VillainBall holder Jaime Lannister had more to his story than had yet to be told; and, when he is the {{narrator}} for the first chapter of the book, it becomes reasonable to believe that his story ''will'' be told. What readers were ''not'' necessarily expecting was the sheer depth of his CharacterDevelopment -- so extensive that, not only had he accomplished an impressive HeelFaceTurn by the end of the novel, he had gained a spot in many readers' top 5 favorite character lists.

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** For GenreSavvy readers, it was clear that archetypal VillainBall holder Jaime Lannister had more to his story than had yet to be told; and, when he is the {{narrator}} for the first chapter of the book, it becomes reasonable to believe that his story ''will'' be told. What readers were ''not'' necessarily expecting was the sheer depth of his CharacterDevelopment -- so extensive that, not only had he accomplished an impressive HeelFaceTurn by the end of the novel, he had gained a spot in many readers' top 5 favorite character lists.
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* HolyShitQuotient: The highest in the series, with [[spoiler: the Red Wedding, the Purple Wedding, the Red Viper vs. the Mountain, Ygritte's death, the battle for the Wall, Tyrion's murder of Tywin and Shae, and Sam killing an Other, Littlefinger revealed as being the BigBad of the first three books]], to name a few.

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* HolyShitQuotient: The highest in the series, with [[spoiler: the Red Wedding, the Purple Wedding, the Red Viper vs. the Mountain, Ygritte's death, the battle for the Wall, Tyrion's murder of Tywin and Shae, and Sam killing an Other, Stannis arriving at the Wall, Littlefinger revealed as being the BigBad of the first three books]], books, Lady Stoneheart]], to name a few.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Jaime's development in this book drastically increased his popularity among readers.

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* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler: The Hound's]] death is unconfirmed and the body not recovered, so some fans hold out hope he survived.



* OneSceneWonder: Oberyn Martell doesn't appear past this book and still doesn't feature in that many chapters [[spoiler: before his death by the hands of Gregor Clegane]]. Doesn't stop him from being just that memorable.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treats Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexForSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb breaks his engagement to a Frey girl to marry Jeyne and preserve her honor. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, and she is kind of sort of more focused on the fact that her dad is going to ''die soon'', so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treats Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexForSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb breaks his engagement to a Frey girl to marry Jeyne and preserve her honor. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, and she is kind of sort of more focused on the fact that her dad is going to ''die soon'', so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing. Unsurprisingly the TV series expands Robb's wife into a main character - though Jeyne is replaced by a CanonForeigner called Talisa Maegyr.
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** For a lot of readers, Jaime Lannister, whom many held with contempt for his previous actions, was virtually redeemed in their eyes as he becomes a POV character and we finally get an insight into his mind where he seems to regret every single thing he's done. After his rocky road throughout the book which also includes [[spoiler: losing his sword hand]] and his character development, he's on a lot of readers' top 5 favorite character list.

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** For a lot of GenreSavvy readers, it was clear that archetypal VillainBall holder Jaime Lannister, whom many held with contempt Lannister had more to his story than had yet to be told; and, when he is the {{narrator}} for his previous actions, was virtually redeemed in their eyes as he the first chapter of the book, it becomes a POV character and we finally get an insight into reasonable to believe that his mind where he seems to regret every single thing he's done. After story ''will'' be told. What readers were ''not'' necessarily expecting was the sheer depth of his rocky road throughout CharacterDevelopment -- so extensive that, not only had he accomplished an impressive HeelFaceTurn by the book which also includes [[spoiler: losing his sword hand]] and his character development, he's on a lot end of the novel, he had gained a spot in many readers' top 5 favorite character list. lists.
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* NauseaFuel: The dishes at the [[spoiler:Red Wedding]] are either bland or just revolting (''jellied calf's brains?!'').

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* NauseaFuel: The dishes at the [[spoiler:Red Wedding]] are either bland (onion broth) or just revolting (''jellied calf's brains?!'').brains?!''). This is an early clue that [[spoiler:the Freys don't care to put on a real feast and are adding extra spite before the massacre]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treats Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexForSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb breaks his engagement to a Frey girl to marry Jeyne and preserve her honor. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, and she is [[{{understatement}} kind of sort of]] more focused on the fact that her dad is going to ''die soon'', so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treats Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexForSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb breaks his engagement to a Frey girl to marry Jeyne and preserve her honor. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, and she is [[{{understatement}} kind of sort of]] of more focused on the fact that her dad is going to ''die soon'', so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.
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* CatharsisFactor: Most readers wanted [[spoiler:Joffrey]] dead since the first book.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treats Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexForSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb breaks his engagement to a Frey girl to marry Jeyne and preserve her honor. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treats Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexForSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb breaks his engagement to a Frey girl to marry Jeyne and preserve her honor. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, and she is [[{{understatement}} kind of sort of]] more focused on the fact that her dad is going to ''die soon'', so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's Fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated treats Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace [[SexForSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke breaks his engagement to a Frey girl to marry Jeyne in order to and preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey.honor. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's Fiancé fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the epilogue, the Brotherhood argue among themselves about whose turn it is to pretend to be Lord Beric, and Tom of Sevenstreams jokingly asks if he has to be Thoros. In the TV show, Tom was AdaptedOut and his traits of singing and being amiable were given to Thoros
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. We don't get much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or much interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn.Catelyn beyond their ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, so we ''still'' don't get much info. Even when Cat sees her brother's Fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. Do we get any insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or any interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn? No, unfortunately.
** They do get ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, so we ''still'' don't get much insight into Jeyne's character. Even when Cat sees her brothers Fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. Do we We don't get any much insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or any interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn? No, unfortunately.
** They do get ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, so we ''still'' don't get much insight into Jeyne's character. Even when Cat sees her brothers Fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.
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** They do get ''one'' scene together in Lord Hoster Tully's room, with Jeyne asking Catelyn for tips on aspects of her relationship with Robb, but it is from Cat's perspective, so we ''still'' don't get much insight into Jeyne's character. Even when Cat sees her brothers Fiancé who might have wed Robb if he hadn't broken his vows with the Freys, Catelyn's main comparison between Roslin and Jeyne is that Jeyne has better hips for child-bearing.
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** For a lot of readers, Jaime Lannister, whom many held with contempt for his previous actions was virtually redeemed in their eyes as he becomes a POV character and we finally get an insight into his mind where he seems to regret every single thing he's done. After his rocky road throughout the book which also includes [[spoiler: losing his sword hand]] and his character development, he's on a lot of readers' top 5 favorite character list.

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** For a lot of readers, Jaime Lannister, whom many held with contempt for his previous actions actions, was virtually redeemed in their eyes as he becomes a POV character and we finally get an insight into his mind where he seems to regret every single thing he's done. After his rocky road throughout the book which also includes [[spoiler: losing his sword hand]] and his character development, he's on a lot of readers' top 5 favorite character list.
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Oberyn does not arrive at kings landing until after Tryion's wedding.


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Oberyn Martell to the max for many readers of this book and the primary example over all in this book. His bout with Gregor is often herald the best duel in the series thus far and Oberyn himself is seen as a {{Lovable Sex Maniac}} whom despite being a bit of a {{Jerkass}} initially at Tyrion's wedding opts to champion for him to fight his sister's killer. The fact he's so popular even [[spoiler: after he dies not long after being introduced]] speaks volumes of his character.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Oberyn Martell to the max for many readers of this book and the primary example over all in this book. His bout with Gregor is often herald the best duel in the series thus far and Oberyn himself is seen as a {{Lovable Sex Maniac}} whom despite being a bit of a {{Jerkass}} initially at Tyrion's wedding opts to act as champion for him Tyrion to fight his (Oberyn's) sister's killer. The fact he's so popular even [[spoiler: after he dies not long after being introduced]] speaks volumes of his character.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. Do we get any insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or any interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn? No, unfortunately.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. Do we get any insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or any interaction with mother-in-law Catelyn? No, unfortunately.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. Do we get any insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, any interaction with Lady mother Catelyn? No, unfortunately.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory who treated Robb after he was injured in a siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. Do we get any insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, or any interaction with Lady mother mother-in-law Catelyn? No, unfortunately.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory whom Robb married and fell in love with all because she slept with him after a siege, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey. Do we get any insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, any interaction with Lady mother Catelyn? No, unfortunately.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. She's a girl from enemy territory whom who treated Robb married and fell in love with all because she slept with him after he was injured in a siege, siege when he heard of Winterfell's sacking and [[SexforSolace tended to him]]. Being honorable to a fault, Robb broke his engagement to marry Jeyne in order to preserve her honor, therefore jeopardizing his relationship with House Frey.Frey. Despite the marriage being borderline shotgun, Robb seems fond of her. Do we get any insight into her character, details about her relationship with the King in the North beyond sleeping with him, any interaction with Lady mother Catelyn? No, unfortunately.

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* ItWasHisSled: We learn that [[spoiler:Jaime killed The Mad King to save the realm.]] There's also [[spoiler:the Red and Purple Weddings]], and Catelyn [[spoiler:comes back as the vengeful, zombified Lady Stoneheart.]]


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* ItWasHisSled: We learn that [[spoiler:Jaime killed The Mad King to save the realm.]] There's also [[spoiler:the Red and Purple Weddings]], and Catelyn [[spoiler:comes back as the vengeful, zombified Lady Stoneheart.]]
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** For a lot of readers, Jaime Lannister, whom many held with contempt for his previous actions was virtually redeemed in their eyes as he becomes a POV character and we finally get an insight into his mind where he seems to regret every single thing he's done. After his rocky road throughout the book which also includes [[spoiler: losing his sword hand]] and his character development, he's on a lot of reader's top 5 favorite character list.

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** For a lot of readers, Jaime Lannister, whom many held with contempt for his previous actions was virtually redeemed in their eyes as he becomes a POV character and we finally get an insight into his mind where he seems to regret every single thing he's done. After his rocky road throughout the book which also includes [[spoiler: losing his sword hand]] and his character development, he's on a lot of reader's readers' top 5 favorite character list.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Tywin, as head of the Lannisters and chief adversary for many of the other characters, but his death has nothing to do with his domination of the continent. His abuse of his son Tyrion finally catches up to him and he dies an ignominious death on a privy.]]

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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Tywin, AntiClimaxBoss:
** [[spoiler:Balon Greyjoy declares himself King of the Iron Islands and has set up a major campaign to raid the North, but dies off-page before he ever does anything. His brothers, however, take up the cause.]]
** [[spoiler:Tywin,
as head of the Lannisters and chief adversary for many of the other characters, but his death has nothing to do with his domination of the continent. His abuse of his son Tyrion finally catches up to him and he dies an ignominious death on a privy.]]



* WhatAnIdiot: Walder Frey's decision to collaborate in [[spoiler:the Red Wedding in [[SacredHospitality the way he did]]]]. In the process he's [[spoiler:joined sides with two backstabbing houses and taken most of the blame for the atrocities committed there.]] Although House Frey gained a big jump in nominal power, it's also [[spoiler:received a bad reputation throughout the kingdom and had some of its members picked off by bandits as a result]]. Some fans believe that the cons vastly outweigh the short-term gains that his house has received.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Walder Frey's decision to collaborate in [[spoiler:the Red Wedding in [[SacredHospitality the way he did]]]]. In the process he's [[spoiler:joined sides with two backstabbing houses and taken most of the blame for the atrocities committed there.]] Although House Frey gained a big jump in nominal power, it's also [[spoiler:received a bad reputation throughout the kingdom and had some of its members picked off by bandits as a result]]. Some fans believe that the cons vastly outweigh the short-term gains that his house has received.
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* MagnumOpus: Most fans consider this book to be the best so far in the series, with the most dramatic events and best pacing of all the books so far.
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* {{Narm}}: Stannis and Melisandre talk about "waking the great stone dragons" on Dragonstone...just like the Ancestors wanted Mushu to do in ''Disney/{{Mulan}}''.

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* {{Narm}}: Stannis and Melisandre talk about "waking the great stone dragons" on Dragonstone... just like the Ancestors wanted Mushu to do in ''Disney/{{Mulan}}''.
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** Beric Dondarrion's fight with Sandor was yet another highlight from the book and as such he's got a respectable fanbase himself [[spoiler: despite the fact like Oberyn, he too dies in this book....after six times before]].

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** Beric Dondarrion's fight with Sandor was yet another highlight from the book and as such he's got a respectable fanbase himself [[spoiler: despite the fact like Oberyn, he too dies in this book....book... after six times before]].
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* MemeticSexGod: [[MrFanservice Oberyn]] [[AnythingThatMoves Martell]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Oberyn Martell to the max for many readers of this book and the primary example over all in this book. His bout with Gregor is often herald the best duel in the series thus far and Oberyn himself is seen as a {{Lovable Sex Maniac}} whom despite being a bit of a {{Jerk Ass}} initially at Tyrion's wedding opts to champion for him to fight his sister's killer. The fact he's so popular even [[spoiler: after he dies not long after being introduced]] speaks volumes of his character.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Oberyn Martell to the max for many readers of this book and the primary example over all in this book. His bout with Gregor is often herald the best duel in the series thus far and Oberyn himself is seen as a {{Lovable Sex Maniac}} whom despite being a bit of a {{Jerk Ass}} {{Jerkass}} initially at Tyrion's wedding opts to champion for him to fight his sister's killer. The fact he's so popular even [[spoiler: after he dies not long after being introduced]] speaks volumes of his character.
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* {{Narm}}: Stannis and Melisandre talk about "waking the great stone dragons" on Dragonstone...just like the Ancestors wanted Mushu to do in ''{{Mulan}}''.

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* {{Narm}}: Stannis and Melisandre talk about "waking the great stone dragons" on Dragonstone...just like the Ancestors wanted Mushu to do in ''{{Mulan}}''.''Disney/{{Mulan}}''.

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