History WMG / Toradora

--> [[spoiler:'''Ami''': And why are you crying? Is it because Taiga took Ryuuji away from you? Or --]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Minori''': I'm not even sure myself...]]

[[WMG: Minori ends up with Ami]]

%%%% Let's not be rude to each other, okay? Besides, this isn't the forum so don't reply to someone's post as if it were.

[[WMG: Minori is either a well known lesbian or HollywoodHomely.]]

[[WMG: Minorin, Yusaku, and Ami are [[spoiler: reincarnations of several characters from Anime/AngelBeats ]] ]]
* Most obvious would be Yusaku, who'd, in his occasionally-inappropriately-shirtless glory, be [[spoiler: a reincarnation of Takamatsu, who decided to study harder]].
* Aside from the similarity (kinda) in hair color, Minorin, being such a GenkiGirl, could be [[spoiler: a reincarnation of Yui]]. Bonus points for her also being on the softball team.
* What with all the LesYay Ami shares with Minorin, she could be [[spoiler: a reincarnation of Hinata, who was a source of HoYay on Anime/AngelBeats]]. Additionally:
** Following the logic of what I just said, one might ask why Ami [[spoiler: isn't part of the softball team, while her previous incarnation, Hinata, lived as a baseball player. ...I wouldn't know why either.]]
** Note one of the aforementioned theories saying Minorin and Ami ending up together. With [[spoiler:Anime/AngelBeats]], there's a theory that says [[spoiler:the montage of FondMemoriesThatCouldHaveBeen between Hinata and Yui wasn't a DistantFinale, but a depressing and desparate ImagineSpot on Hinata's part.]] I'm bringing up that part as possibly canon, at least in this theory, so this next bit wouldn't be contradictory: While Toradora is about [[spoiler: how Taiga and Ryuuji got together]], Ami and Minorin could be [[HeroofAnotherStory Heroes of Another Story]], detailing particularly [[spoiler: how Hinata and Yui meet after being reincarnated]].

[[WMG: Taiga is Haruhi Suzumiya. ]]

[[WMG: What was in the pouch Ami gave Taiga in episode 20? ]]

[[WMG: By the end Yuusaku and Sumire are in a long distance relationship.]]

[[WMG: Taiga has Kallmann Syndrome]]

* Meh, If you compare Minori to the other girls of the series, she's actually the most average (Average build, average bust size, average height). Her face is also a bit less defined than Taiga's and Ami's, who have more delicate faces. Minori is homely by comparison and is pretty much average in every way. She's a Plain Jane compared to the Supermodel's daughter Ami or RapunzelHair, doll-faced Taiga.

The last three episodes in my opinion dance around this. Besides, now that Ryuuji and Taiga are out of the picture who does she turn to, why the person she has FoeYay with. Things do seem to settle down rather quickly between the two of them after Ryuuji and Taiga hook up (finally!). Also Minori wouldn't even cry in front of Taiga but she'll cry in front of Ami. In the final episode they seem really at ease with each other too, there is a moment between the two of them right before they force Ryuuji to smile.

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** This al suggests that [[OneTrueThreesome a neater solution may have been possible...]]

* Which goes to show that the Les shippers will snap at anything. You know, there's this thing called friendship, and it's not sexual.
** To be fair to the Les shippers, the BL and het shippers aren't much better in the "hearing wedding bells at the slightest interaction" department. For example: the Naruto fandom.

* The conversation in which Ryuuji admits his crush on Minori to his friends spells it out: Minori is the ''weird'' girl. Capital S-T-R-A-N-G-E. She's plenty attractive, but her personality fluctuates so much that she makes guys look at other girls.

* A bikini. Taiga expresses dissatisfaction with the local bathing suit selection and refuses to wear a children's suit. She may have asked Ami to look for a stylish and mature suit (possibly with built in padding) for her in Hawaii That she could wear on the Okinawa trip. And there is semi-official artwork showing Taiga in a bikini.

* A bikini. Taiga expresses dissatisfaction with the local bathing suit selection and refuses to wear a children's suit. She may have asked Ami to look for a stylish and mature suit (possibly with built in padding) in Hawaii that she could wear on the Okinawa trip. And there is semi-official artwork showing Taiga in a bikini.

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** [[{{MiraShio}} This totally straight female troper]] and her mother beg to differ.

** This is how I think of it: Minori was still struggling with her feelings. She knew for sure she was jealous of the idea of Taiga and Ryuuji pairing up, but (as she admitted to Ami) she wasn't exactly sure why. When you're a teenager and you think you might be gay, unless you come from an extremely open-minded background, it's going to be something that's hard to come to terms with. I almost thought her "admission" bordered on SureLetsGoWithThat: it was easier for her to explain away her behavior as being the result of unresolved feelings for Ryuuji rather than Taiga. The end result remains "you're both my friends, and maybe I do like one of you 'in that way,' but it doesn't matter, because [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy I want you to be happy with each other]]." The closet may be transparent, but it still exists. That's my tin-hatted theory to keep away the {{Wall Banger}}s anyway.

** Which goes to show that the Les shippers will snap at anything. You know, there's this thing called friendship, and it's not sexual.

[[WMG: Minorin, Yusaku, and Ami are [[spoiler: reincarnations of several characters from AngelBeats ]] ]]

* What with all the LesYay Ami shares with Minorin, she could be [[spoiler: a reincarnation of Hinata, who was a source of HoYay on AngelBeats]]. Additionally:

** Note one of the aforementioned theories saying Minorin and Ami ending up together. With [[spoiler:AngelBeats]], there's a theory that says [[spoiler:the montage of FondMemoriesThatCouldHaveBeen between Hinata and Yui wasn't a DistantFinale, but a depressing and desparate ImagineSpot on Hinata's part.]] I'm bringing up that part as possibly canon, at least in this theory, so this next bit wouldn't be contradictory: While Toradora is about [[spoiler: how Taiga and Ryuuji got together]], Ami and Minorin could be [[HeroofAnotherStory Heroes of Another Story]], detailing particularly [[spoiler: how Hinata and Yui meet after being reincarnated]].

** Following the logic of what I just said, one might ask why Ami [[spoiler: isn't part of the softball team, while her previous incarnation, Hinata, was stuck in the afterlife . It's still a possibility that she might've joined after the events of the story and before graduating, or had something to do with baseball; this could just be a moot point.]]

* Attractiveness is not determined by appearance alone, aside from the fact that it's very subjective. Bubbly, cheerful girls like Minori tend to be rather popular in real life, even if they're not that pretty. That said, Minori may not be model material, but at least she's depicted as having the same bodily proportions as Ami, which isn't bad at all.

**Meh, If you compare Minori to the other girls of the series, she's actually the most average (Average build, average bust size, average height). Her face is also a bit less defined than Taiga's and Ami's, who have more delicate faces. Minori is homely by comparison and is pretty much average in every way. She's a Plain Jane compared to the Supermodel's daughter Ami or RapunzelHair, doll-faced Taiga.
** Attractiveness is not determined by appearance alone, aside from the fact that it's very subjective. Bubbly, cheerful girls like Minori tend to be rather popular in real life, even if they're not that pretty. That said, Minori may not be model material, but at least she's depicted as having the same bodily proportions as Ami, which isn't bad at all.

[[WMG:''Toradora'' is a [[{{Americanitis}} Japanized]] distant prequel to ''MarriedWithChildren'']]
Twenty years of marriage to Taiga wear Ryuuji down to a nub, and...
**I beg to differ. [[spoiler: Taiga decided not to elope with Ryuuji. She withdrew from school, and returned a year later after she had reconciled with her parents. She did all this just to prevent ''MarriedWithChildren'' from happening. Had she eloped, then maybe that would have happened.]]

[[WMG: Ryuuji is the son of Ryuji Goda from "Yakuza 2"]]
Both have scary, yakuza-like faces. I also think that Ryuuji's mother mentioned that his father might have been a yakuza. The timeline would also be right- both Toradora and Yakuza 2 take place around the same few years. Plus, considering Ryuji Goda's morals (and his screwed-up family tree), it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he had had a kid and left the mother. Throw in the same first name, if you want.