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Lion-O will somehow be sent forward about ten years and find that Mumm-Ra managed to conquer the world in his absence and all of the Thundercats have been enslaved by him. One or more of the original team will have died ([[MentorOccupationalHazard Panthro]], [[ShooOutTheClowns Snarf]], and [[DeadLittleSister Cheetara]] are all likely candidates), Tygra will be bitter about Lion-O's disappearance [[WhatTheHellHero ask him where the hell he was while his people needed him]], Wilykit and Wilykat will have grown up to be [[FutureBadass Future Badasses]], and Lion-O will somehow learn an important weakness of Mumm-Ra which he will take back with him after he escapes or defeats the BadFuture.

They're farmers, so the lizards would likely see the value of them as workers. Not only that, but given that they've been set up recently, and their fates left ambiguous, the writers have a great opportunity for a ChekovsGun to go off. It would also serve as brilliant character development for Kit and Kat.

* Yeah! The frogs could be like the wandering musical nomads from AvatarTheLastAirbender!

[[WMG: Mumm-Ra is [[HPLovecraft Nyarlathotep]].]]

[[WMG: Third Earth is the planet that the crash on at the end of Transformers:FallOfCybertron]]

*** De-evolution. The Thunderians themselves aren't immune to that, as evidenced by the tail-bearing undercaste. There's also some hints that Snarf's alot more intelligent then your typical animal (think [[HowToTrainYourDragon Toothless]]) and simply speaks Feline, which Lion-O can understand. There's also no reason why there isn't still a Snarfworld somewhere in the galaxy, if the Sequel Theory is correct, and might make for a rather interesting story later on.

[[WMG: Mumm-Ra is [[Nyarlathotep]].]]

The mechanism to enter the pyramid, as well as many of the interior designs, including the inside of Mumm-Ra's sarcophagus, look like SufficientlyAdvancedTechnology. It's possible the pyramid is actually the tip of the iceberg, being part of a buried spacecraft that would have first ferried people to Third Earth. He may be kept alive by some sort of nanotechnology, which may well be the source of ALL magic on Third Earth. Up to and including the Sword of Omens and the as of yet unseen Book of Omens.

[[WMG: Mumm-Ra is a [[Warhammer40K Daemon Prince]].]]

It's pretty obvious that Tygra is at least a year or two older than Lion-O. It's possible that Tygra was originally adopted because Claudus, being both a a king who was often in the midst of battle and a guy who wasn't exactly a spring chicken by that point, began to get concerned about the very real possibility that he might die and leave Thundera leaderless, as he as yet had no heir. Enter Tygra, the young son of a pair of Thundercat nobles who is tragically orphaned, possibly due to an attack by the Lizards. Claudus, having both the young orphan's interests and the interests of Thundera (and her need for a strong leader) at heart, takes the cub in and makes him his ward, raising him like his own son, which includes training him up as a potential ruler. Tygra, not being a lion, might not be able to legally inherit the throne, but that way, had the worst come to pass and Claudus died without an heir, at least Thundera and her people wouldn't have been left leaderless while the question of succession was decided. Of course, a year or two later, Lion-O was born, giving Claudus a proper heir, and putting Tygra completely out of the running. This could be one of the things fueling his [[SiblingRivalry Sibling Rivalry]] with Lion-O.

* ''Alternately, Tygra's birth parents were traitors and/or enemies of Thundera.'' Kind of rips off ''{{Film/Thor}}'' but maybe Tygus being against Leo's rebellion foreshadows that the tigers would later become traitors and break away from Thundera. Tygra's real father might have been killed in battle or by Claudus, who took in his enemy's son to make peace with the tigers or out of guilt or as a pawn to be used later before he started thinking of Tygra as his own son. This may mean there are scattered tigers out there, and they're not very big fans of the Thundercats.

In the original series, Tygra did refer to Bengali as "Brother", in the [[TrueCompanions "you're one of us now"]] sense rather than the "we're related" sense... but now there's a chance that the two were SeparatedAtBirth, or that Bengali is some other LongLostRelative. Bonus points if this means Tygra actually has to choose between his adopted and biological brothers.

[[WMG: Bengali is a younger cat who looks up to Lion-O.]]
Being a bit of a FanOfTheUnderDog, and possibly considered as a nobody by his peers growing up, possibly for having a tail. Bengali would have heard about Lion-O taking a stand against the ''system''. So naturally, being looked down upon himself he'd want to emulate someone like Lion-O.

** This troper agrees. Given how BadAss Panthro is, he hardly seems the type who would dock his tail for fashion or prestige. More likely, it's loss is a battle wound, either at the hands of a foe, or by his own hand to escape a trap. We might even see a former foe carrying the tail as a trophy later.

* ''Alternately:'' As above, Panthro lost his tail in battle, but found himself the recipient of noticeably (and arbitrarily) better treatment from the upper city's denizens in the aftermath, now that he could visibly pass as a noble. This fueled his cynicism for Thundera's caste system and explains his insistence that Lion-O ''prove'' his worth on meeting him.

* Depends on if (and how) he escapes [[spoiler:the collapsing Astral Plane]]. He might come back as a full robot like the Berbils. Or perhaps he will be a spiritual EvilCounterpart to Jaga, assisting Mumm-Ra (assuming he doesn't continue being TheStarscream--or even if he does).

Okay, a bit wild but everyone's been wondering how those guys came about so I'm sticking to one theory somebody proposed previously in another Thundercats forum. The Berbils are probably failed creations of the Cybermen. Before Mondas was destroyed, they upgraded a few bears as basically "the help." They're there to repair the Cybermen themselves and any of their technology even help out with the Cyber-Conversions, to an extreme; they're slaves. But later on, they grasped the concept of free will and very much escaped to Third Earth for shelter.

** [[spoiler:Jossed, sort of, in the episode "The Pit". Once she stops ''trying to kill him'', Pumyra's the one how does the flirting!]]

As the result of a magical accident, or the local version of the Cave of Time (from the original series episodes "Trouble With Time", "[=ThunderCubs=], Part V" and "Return of the [=ThunderCubs=]"). When they're given the chance to return to their younger forms, [=WilyKit=], at least, will choose to stay older because she's in love with Lion-O, but they couldn't be involved when she's a child.

* Confirmed: The Trials ''will'' be in the first season, but in much-condensed form, no word on whether they'll be the season finale or part of an earlier arc.

** How can you share any "loyalty" with others when you don't know who to trust? Bonus points if Vultaire is a double agent who maintains an uneasy alliance with the cats.

Two highly popular revivals of 80s cartoons both airing at the same time possibly sharing a similar audience? Too cool not to happen.

*** No but there is a [[TastesLikeDiabetes Trope]]

Much like ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' it could even be a season worth of episodes to rescue the indentured Thunderians and for the two slave Lizardmen from the pilot to join the group.

Lion-O seemed less mad than Tygra was during the fight, oddly enough. Before they fought, he tried to intimidate Tygra by saying the Sword of Omens could not be beat. Lion-O would know from his lesson in "The Duelist and the Drifter" that it's the swordsman, not the sword that's powerful, so Lion-O was probably deliberately bluffing. He didn't use his gauntlet until he fell down into the pit, and he chose to try and talk Tygra back to his senses rather than use the grappling claws to get out.

* [[spoiler:{{Bird Nation was Confirmed}} as of "What Lies Above Part 1".]]

* After completely misreading Cheetara's intentions (mistaking loyalty for romantic attachment), Lion-O will think twice before acting on Pumyra's affections to prevent getting burned twice. It'll only be when she makes her intentions clear (knowing her in the least subtle way possible) that he'll realize that she has feelings for him.

Since it seems that Mumm-Ra has outright claimed to be the former owner of the Eye of Thundera, it's not unreasonable to think that his [[DistaffCounterpart Distaff Counterpart]] on the good side might be in possession of the Book of Omens.

[[WMG: The Book of Omens is a [[Warhammer40K Chaos Artifact]] ]]

* 1.) While Mumm-Ra is invading we see on his computer screens various images, among them is a picture of Mon*Star, (and since he's usually depicted with an eyepatch, it may even literally be HIS eye)

And the three ''older'' cats will each be the keeper of one of the three, when Lion-O isn't using them that is.

This [[SnapBack goes without saying]] under normal circumstances, but in this case, it's justified. The money will go towards setting up a new home for the rescued Cats, and/or financing the rebellion.

** The evidence for that so far is confined to King Claudus making reference to an ancient band of Thunderian warriors who called themselves "Thundercats", whom he does not identify individually. If he reveals that Lion-O was named after the leader of these earlier Thundercats, then the theory gains credence, though it makes Lion-O II being best friends with Thunderians who just happen to share the names and appearances of the friend of the original Lion-O annoyingly coincidental.

[[WMG: The Thundercats are descended from Frankenstein of Series/RedDwarf.]]
The cat-people that evolved from Lister's cat - the group that left the 'Dwarf in search of paradise did not crash and die, but instead were picked up along the way by Mumm-Ra in a ship, genetically tweaked to bring out more of their feline traits and made to serve him.

** It's unlikely though that all Cats are born with tails, as we can see a young Cheetara does not have a tail in her flash back when she was poor and homeless.

*** At the very least it could create an interest in old HannaBarbera properties like ''PiratesOfDarkWater'', which considering the popularity of the ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' films would make this a perfect time for a come-back. If you think about it, the plots for this show and PODW are almost identical: Prince sets out on journey with companions and a TeamPet to find mystical [[{{MacGuffin}} MacGuffins]].

* Yeah! The frogs could be like the wandering musical nomads from AvatarTheLastAirbender!

** How to you manage telling the "truth" when you are bound to, and have to keep secrets.

[[WMG: Cheetara has clairvoyant nightmares that give clues to defeating Mumm-Ra and the Ancient Spirits of Evil]] Cheetara plays her cards close to the vest, and likely knows more than she is letting on about Thunderan history, Mumm-Ra, and the ASOE. The audience learns what Cheetara is thinking through her dreams. Her guilt [[spoiler: that she didn't warn Lion-O about Pumyra's potential treachery]] will turn the dreams into nightmares. Bonus points if Lion-O entrusts her with the Book of Omens, which ''she can read,'' (using magic to reveal the writing) and use to communicate with Jaga and interpret the nightmares.

[[WMG: Cheetara has clairvoyant nightmares that give clues to defeating Mumm-Ra and the Ancient Spirits of Evil]] Cheetara plays her cards close to the vest, and likely knows more than she is letting on about Thunderan history, Mumm-Ra, and the ASOE. The audience learns what Cheetara is thinking through her dreams. Her guilt [[spoiler: that she didn't either recognize the signs or call out Pumyra's treachery]] will turn the dreams into nightmares. Bonus points if Lion-O entrusts her with the Book of Omens which she uses to communicate with Jaga and interpret the nightmares.

Being a bit of an FanOfTheUnderDog, and possibly considers as nothing more than by his peers growing up, possibly for having a tail. Bengali would have heard about Lion-O taking a stand against the ''system''. So naturally, being looked down upon himself he'd want to emulate someone like Lion-O.

* ...More like the [[StarTrek holodeck]].

[[WMG: Pumyra [[spoiler:is being mind controlled]]]]

* She may be saved my the Ancient spirits of goodness and reborn as Mum-Rana.

[[WMG: [[Spoiler:The real Pumyra isn't dead.]]]]
[[spoiler:The real Pumyra was rescued and the one who betrayed the group is a manifestation of her anger and hatred towards Lion-o. In the end Lion-o will be forced to kill her and be jaw droped stunned when he finds the real Pumyra]]

As the result of a magical accident, or the local version of the Cave of Time (from the original series episodes "Trouble With Time", "[=ThunderCubs=], Part V" and "Return of the [=ThunderCubs=]"). When they're given the chance to return to their younger forms, [=WilyKit=], at least, will choose to stay older and become Lion-O's new love interest.

* Tookit is a theif and a self proclaimed Kleptopath, maybe he stole it knowing it was powerful but not having any idea how powerful

[[WMG: [[Spoiler:The real Pumyra isnt dead]] ]]

[[WMG: [[Spoiler:The real Pumyra isnt dead]]]]

[[spoiler:I find it highly unlikely that Pumyra would willingly work for the person responsible for her home being destroyed. They made a point to show she died and was resurrected, so it's very possible that she's being manipulated by magic, being driven by her rage for revenge. The Pumyra we know is a homunculus, and just a shadow of the real Pumyra, but with several aspects of her old personality. It's possible that without Mumm-Ra's influence she wouldn't be evil. Here's hoping Lion-O can redeem her, and possibly give bck her real life with the Spirit Stone.]]

Since they appearently like to convert organic organisms into metallic monstruousities as well. Howeer, they somehow managed to find themselevs some restraint, and get rid of the oil.