History WMG / Scion

* In a game of Scion this troper was part of had the Abrahamic God be one of the Avatars of the Logos. Logos was (broadly) on the gods side and indeed had been instrumental in sealing it's brethren as they were too chaotic in nature for it to stand. We had to work with it (and the Knights Of The Round Table, long story) to allow it to do so again. That made sense to me; none of the Abrahamic faiths have been around long enough for their god to be the one behind and/or above the others but an Avatar arising from the Logos more recently fits the established rules of the setting while also allowing him to be powerful enough to be worth using.

* In a game of Scion this troper was part of had the Abrahamic God be one of the Avatars of the Logos. Logos was (broadly) on the gods side and indeed had been instrumental in sealing it's brethren as they were too chaotic in nature for it to stand. We had to work with it (and the Knights Of The Round Table, long story) to allow it to do so again.

** Little tricky; in Scion Companion Satan was explicitly identified as a highly embittered and corrupted Pan rather than a Titanspawn.

* In a game of Scion this troper was part of had the Abrahamic God be one of the Avatars of the Titan of Order. It was (broadly) on the gods side and indeed had been instrumental in sealing it's brethren as they were too chaotic in nature for it to stand. We PCs had to work with it (and the knights Of The round Table, long story) to allow it to do so again.

* Breakdown: The WOD declares war on the Overworld. The Camarilla Elders would be scheming and plotting to manipulate the situation when Hades/Baron Samedi/Hel or Scions thereof to collect a ''long overdue debt''. Scion 1, WOD 0. Werewolves are strong but the Blessing of Silver (from Companion) and a well placed shot from a Birthright bow would make short work of them. Scion 2, WOD 0. nWOD Changelings suffer too much paranoia and disillusionment to mount an effective defense and there's the chance the True Fae can be dispatched by well prepared Scions who may win the allegiance of the Changeling community (I have a feeling the Tuatha would jump on that right quick). oWOD Changelings are similar to the run of the mill trolls and goblins that get dispatched as extras/recruited by the Tuatha. Scion 3, WOD 0. Sin-Eaters/Wraiths draw the ire of the Death gods like the vampires do and are summarily smitten/devoured/imprisoned in Tartarus. Scion 4, WOD 0. The few Prometheans might buy into Prometheus' smooth talking and make themselves enemies of Asgard (most of which die horribly.) Scion 5, WOD 0. Finally, the Mages band together and throw open a rip in the space-time continuum to a world where [[{{Exalted}} chosen heroes of the gods battle imprisoned titanic monstrosities with all of Creation at stake.]] There, a group of Exalts and a band of Scions are drawn together in hopes that they destroy each other. After a brief tussle, they realize they've been deceived and the lives of the surviving Mages get remarkably shorter. But the portal between worlds is open. A Dawn Solar and the son of Zeus stare tersely at each other, their friends forming ranks behind them for the battle to come. In the heavens above, the gods of Yu-Shan and the gods of the Overworld glare at each other across the gap in the sky, each group silently measuring the other for intent, signs of weakness or malice. All Creation holds its breath and all the World is silent for one...terrible...second. Then, the Dawn Caste smiles and the Scion of Zeus extends a hand to shake. The Eclipse caste and the Scion of Thoth begin to make shaky attempts to speak each others languages. The Unconquered Sun offers a brief nod to which Amaterasu replies with the slightest declination of her head. And at the same time, for reasons no one has been able to explain, every Titan and Titanspawn and every dark creature aligned with Malfeas or the Underworld from the lowliest demon to the mightiest Yozi [[OhCrap soils themselves in unholy unison.]]

** The Scions are probably going to win, but that seems a bit one sided. So here's an alternative: The Tuatha offer to help changeling courts with the True Fae, and everything seems great to start with. But the changelings are ''used'' to very powerful beings who seem nice to start with. They even associate openly with fairies! Things break down, and these new creatures turn out to have something of a vulnerability to fate. And as it happens, changelings can ''do'' fate. They also might not be particularly emotionally stable. Result: Long, costly fight against an enemy that can hit the Scion where it hurts, and seems unreasonably good at hiding. Meanwhile, all the mages who weren't stupid enough to summon a completely unknown and uncontrollable entity to try and deal with their foes, and after the Exalted have wandered off, realise that most scions are deadliest at close range, and start a campaign of attack based on being two continents away at the time. Meanwhile, while the Prometheans fighting against the gods are wiped out, the ones who ''aren't'' turn out to be more of a problem. The entire Yankee pantheon is sadly entirely wiped out by a growing inexplicable paranoia, envy, and mood swings, before the gods work out what's happening. The gods aren't helped by being completely sure that disquiet coudn't possibly affect ''them''. As the Demons and remaining vampires join the fight, the scions seem to have enemies in every shadow, and almost no way to fight back. But they are heroes! ''Gods''! Slowly, they learn to fight back, and start to gain the upper hand against this insidious foe. [[GeniusTheTransgression That's when a horde of mutant cyborg dinosaurs shows up in a giant zeppelin.]]

***** We should probably expand on the "idea" of Hunter/Scion interaction. A lone cell would probably get along with a long scion okay, as long as they're not Atzlánti or a particularly dark scion. Compacts like the Abe would love a chance to meet with scions of the Dodekatheon or Loa (and perhaps see how they party), while forces like Null Mysteriis or Network Zero would try desperately to document a scion in action. The Union, well, depends on the individual Union cell, but the Loyalists of Thule might actually possess information that the scions could actually use. When we hit the conspiracy level, all bets are off, as the Malleus and Long Night would take steps to capture and "convert" the scions in question immediately. The AKD would ask too many uncomfortable questions about Atlantis and would try very hard to secure any scion weaponry or tools for their own. The Lucifuge might be seen as enemies by scions, and this wouldn't lead to any good relationships with that group. Let's not get into what Cheiron would do to a scions.

***** We should probably expand on the "idea" of Hunter/Scion interaction. A lone cell would probably get along with a long scion okay, as long as they're not Atzlánti or a particularly dark scion. Compacts like the Abe would love a chance to meet with scions of the Dodekatheon or Loa (and perhaps see how they party), while forces like Null Mysteriis or Network Zero would try desperately to document a scion in action. The Union, well, depends on the individual Union cell, but the Loyalists of Thule might actually possess information that the scions could actually use. When we hit the conspiracy level, all bets are off, as the Malleus and Long Night would take steps to capture and "convert" the scions in question immediately. The AKD would ask too many uncomfortable questions about Atlantis and would try very hard to secure any scion weaponry or tools for their own. The Lucifuge might be seen as enemies by scions, and this wouldn't lead to any good relationships with that group.

* Or God exists in the setting ''without'' being being a MarySue. The Abrahamic "pantheon" exists, but it's no more inherently special than any of the other Pantheons are (for example, the story of God singlehandedly creating the World isn't any more "true" than -- or, rather, is "true" in the same way as -- the claim the Aesir crafted the earth from the corpse of Ymir, or the Daevas supported it on the back of a giant turtle swimming in an infinite ocean of milk). It consists of a single God, at least three Demigods (Jesus, Mary and Mohammed, the three figures most often praised alongside God himself), and a vast array of lesser immortals (the assorted Christian saints, Jewish heroes, angels, etc). There is a ''lot'' of bad blood between God and the other Pantheons, so he is caught in a {{Catch 22}} situation; only Fatebinding himself to his millions of worshippers gives God the power to singlehandedly defend his part of the Overworld against the Titans, but at the same time this reinforces the very aspects of himself that make the other Pantheons root for him to fail.

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[[WMG: The Abrahamic God exists in the game. And [[GodIsGood He is not a bastard]]]]

[[WMG: White Wolf will do a crossover with the [[WorldOfDarkness]]]]