History WMG / PokemonColosseum

[[WMG: Wes will be a BonusBoss in a future game.]]

See above. Wes is a serial saboteur of evil Teams. This ''especially'' crosses over with the spirit of the guess above that we'll see him again, though not the letter, in that he may be an ally (or at least the enemy of the PC's enemy) rather than a BonusBoss.

They look a lot like one another. Evice even has the glowing red eyes of the SATAM Robotnik. The only real difference in terms of looks is different clothes, being older and choosing to have his BadassMoustache apply to his scalp. Plus both of them like to tinker with animals (super-powered animals in Evice's case).

[[WMG: This takes place in Film/TheMatrix.]]

Team Cipher lives in a near-lifeless region, supported only by Pokemon from outside the region. Team Cipher wants to conquer the region not because [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans they want to]]([[EvilFeelsGood though they probably like the power]]), but because they want [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to make Orre not]] [[CrapsackWorld a shithole.]] The world takeover scheme? How else are they going to implement their dream of a frugal, wealthy world? That or they're bluffing to intimidate the other regions into leaving them alone The Shadow Pokemon are there because a)[[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain they're helping humans, but don't give a shit about Pokemon]] and b)loyal Pokemon with no conscience will be like nukes, forcing other nations into leaving them alone. Guys like [[TheSociopath Ein]] are just being opportunists.

* In [[Manga/PokemonSpecial another manga]], a bomb, planted by Galactic, unleashes a HatePlague upon the Pokemon near Lake Valor. Pearl was there and caught one of these, and he usually has to put his opponent between himself and that Pokémon in order to get it to attack the proper target. Attacking humans directly. Sound familiar?

** The Battle Frontier Island off the coast of Sinnoh has a desert, too. As does Unova.

* In [[PokemonSpecial another manga]], a bomb, planted by Galactic, unleashes a HatePlague upon the Pokemon near Lake Valor. Pearl was there and caught one of these, and he usually has to put his opponent between himself and that Pokémon in order to get it to attack the proper target. Attacking humans directly. Sound familiar?

[[WMG: Orre is [[{{Eberron}} Cyre/The Mournlands]]]]

Team Cipher lives in a near-lifeless region, supported only by Pokemon from outside the region. Team Cipher wants to conquer the region not because [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans they want to]]([[EvilFeelsGood though they probably like the power]]), but because they want [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to make Orre not]] [[CrapsackWorld a shithole.]] The world takeover scheme? How else are they going to implement their dream of a frugal, wealthy world? That or they're bluffing to intimidate the other regions into leaving them alone The Shadow Pokemon are there because a)[[PoliticallyIncorrectVillian they're helping humans, but don't give a shit about Pokemon]] and b)loyal Pokemon with no conscience will be like nukes, forcing other nations into leaving them alone. Guys like [[TheSociopath Ein]] are just being opportunists.

The partnership between Snagem and Cipher worked like this: Snagem steals and captures Pokémon, and delivers them to Cipher to convert them into Shadow Pokémon. Wes is obviously a badass, seems to be the most competent of Snagem, and Rui calls him a snagging expert. It's quite possible that Wes helped capture a lot of the Pokémon in the first place, including the legendaries. The realization of how Shadow Pokémon work and the fact that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he was mostly responsible]] set off his HeelFaceTurn.

The partnership between Snagem and Cipher worked like this: Snagem steals and captures Pokémon, and delivers them to Cipher to convert them into Shadow Pokémon. Wes is obviously a badass, seems to be the most competent of Snagem, and Rui calls him a snagging expert. It's quite possible that Wes helped capture a lot of the Pokémon in the first place, including the legendaries. The realization of how Shadow Pokémon work and the fact that he was mostly responsible set off his HeelFaceTurn.

The partnership between Snagem and Cipher worked like this: Snagem steals and captures Pokémon, and delivers them to Cipher to convert them into Shadow Pokémon. Wes is obviously a BadAss, seems to be the most competent of Snagem, and Rui calls him a snagging expert. It's quite possible that Wes helped capture a lot of the Pokémon in the first place, including the legendaries. The realization of how Shadow Pokémon work and the fact that he was mostly responsible set off his HeelFaceTurn.

And he got it solely in an attempt to look more BadAss. Sure, it's a pretty simple one, but from cheek-to-cheek across the bridge of the nose? Ow.

[[WMG: Hoopa was the one that brought Cipher to the Orre region.]]
Fits with the theory that Orre was hit by the Ultimate Weapon, if you want it to that is.

It's mentioned in an in-game event in [[Videogame/PokemonXandY X and Y]] that Hoopa was the sights of an unknown criminal organization which ended with them being transported in to the middle of a barren desert; Cipher was that organization and Orre was that desert region, with them permanently settling there following with Orre's subsequent corruption. Clearly before the discovery of Shadow Pokemon, they were resorting to the more "traditional" means the other villainous teams tried doing; with Hoopa's power, they could have had everything they ever wanted.

Both of them have experimented with Pokémon on a deep level, take the philosophy that Pokémon are tools, and aspire world conquest as their end-goal. Before Team Rocket fell, Giovanni decided to experiment their criminal empire by hiring one-time (albeit highly skilled) rouges, who were happy to be part of something larger. Greevil and his sons were high-class Rocket agents that served as the de-facto leaders-however, unknown to Giovanni, [[GoneHorriblyRight they were even better than Team Rocket]] and took advantage of both distance and Team Rocket's collapse to become fully independent. The reason why no Unova Pokémon appeared, despite Orre being in the same country, is because they were importing from the many Pokémon Team Rocket either stole or captured fairly, or a Poképan-based charity helping to rebuild the ruined Orre. Ein may have started as a Team Plasma agent working with Ghetsis on means to control Pokemon, but realized the whole N thing would fail in the end [[EvilCannotComprehendGood because Ghetsis didn't think N would change.]] ([[DangerouslyGenreSavvy That's right, Ein gets how good works despite his sociopathy.]] Be afraid-''be very afraid''.)

In PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure, he uses very similar technology to enslave armies of Pokémon. We know from HGSS that he's basically a free agent, working for whoever wants his particular brand of mad science...

[[WMG: Venus, Ein, and Dakim moved to [[PokemonBlackAndWhite Unova]] after the events of Colosseum and/or XD]]

Colress has the same attitude, and openly betrayed Ghetsis the instant the [[PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 BW-2]] protagonists defeat him, citing that Ghetsis's method for making Pokèmon's strength come out was proven inferior to the protagonist's and then was calmly never heard from again, just like Ein.