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* The villain would be Monks reimagined as a vicious crime lord. He would [[AdaptationalBadass lack his cowardice from the book and actively take part in crimes himself]]. But Monks is [[AdaptationalVillainy far more detestable]] at the same time, possibly even a CompleteMonster like [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 Scar]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney Claude Frollo]]. And since he was the actual BigBad in the book, Monks will be revealed to have been an associate of Bill Sykes.
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* The villain would be Monks reimagined as a vicious crime lord. He would [[AdaptationalBadass lack his cowardice from the book and actively take part in crimes himself]]. But At the same time, Monks is [[AdaptationalVillainy far more detestable]] at the same time, possibly detestable than his literary counterpart]]. Possibly even a CompleteMonster like [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 Scar]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney Claude Frollo]]. And since he was the actual BigBad in the book, Monks will be revealed to have been an associate of Bill Sykes.
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* The villain would be Monks reimagined as a vicious crime lord. He would [[AdaptationalBadass lack his cowardice from the book and actively take part in crimes himself]]. But he would be Monks is [[AdaptationalVillainy far more detestable]] at the same time, maybe possibly even a CompleteMonster like [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 Scar]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney Claude Frollo]]. And since he was the actual BigBad in the book, Monks will be revealed to have been an associate of Bill Sykes.
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They would regularly get invited to the Northwest Fest due to their high status but hated attending it due to Preston being an utter douchebag. Likewise, [[AlphaBitch Pacifica]] would regularly pick on [[LonelyRichKid Jenny]] for not having any friends.
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They would regularly get invited to the Northwest Fest due to their high status but hated attending it due to Preston the Northwests being an utter douchebag. colossal {{Jerkass}}es. Likewise, [[AlphaBitch Pacifica]] would regularly pick on [[LonelyRichKid Jenny]] for not having expressing sympathy for people from the lower classes. After a cruel incident in which Jenny was publicly humiliated in front of the party guests and reduced to tears, the Foxworths angrily severed ties with the Northwests and vowed never to attend any friends.
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* The sequel would be considerably notably longer than the first movie, being somewhere around 100 minutes in terms with a runtime of running time.about 100+ minutes.
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* The villain would be Monks reimagined as a vicious crime lord. He would [[AdaptationalBadass lack his cowardice from the book and actively take part in crimes himself]]. But he would be [[AdaptationalVillainy far more detestable]] at the same time, maybe even a CompleteMonster like [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 Scar]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney Claude Frollo]]. And since he was the actual BigBad in the book, Monks will be revealed to have been an associate of Bill Sykes.
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* The plot would take place some time after the first movie, and would involve Oliver reuniting with Fagin's gang sometime after gang.
* Most of theevents of characters would sadly be re-cast.
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* Disney cameos wouldmake sense given he was TheManBehindTheMan in the original Charles Dickens novel)
----include [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 Simba]], [[WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} Princess Jasmine]], [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} Nick Wilde]], and [[WesternAnimation/LadyAndTheTramp Lady]].
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* The villain would be Monks from the original Charles Dickens novel reimagined as a ruthless mobster. And he would be revealed to have been a benefactor of Bill Sykes. (Which would make sense given he was TheManBehindTheMan in the book)
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* The villain would be Monks from the original Charles Dickens novel reimagined as a ruthless mobster.vicious crime lord. And he would be revealed to have been a benefactor of Bill Sykes. (Which would make sense given he was TheManBehindTheMan in the book)
original Charles Dickens novel)
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* The plot would involve Oliver reuniting with Fagin's gang sometime after the events of the first movie.
* Special emphasis would be given to Jenny, whose relationship with her parents would be explored.
* The villain would be Monks from the original Charles Dickens novel reimagined as a ruthless mobster. And he would be revealed to have been a benefactor of Bill Sykes. (Which would make sense given he was TheManBehindTheMan in the book)
* The plot would involve Oliver reuniting with Fagin's gang sometime after the events of the first movie.
* Special emphasis would be given to Jenny, whose relationship with her parents would be explored.
* The villain would be Monks from the original Charles Dickens novel reimagined as a ruthless mobster. And he would be revealed to have been a benefactor of Bill Sykes. (Which would make sense given he was TheManBehindTheMan in the book)
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[[WMG: The Foxworths have a very poor history with [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls the Northwests]].]]
They would regularly get invited to the Northwest Fest due to their high status but hated attending it due to Preston being an utter douchebag. Likewise, [[AlphaBitch Pacifica]] would regularly pick on [[LonelyRichKid Jenny]] for not having any friends.
They would regularly get invited to the Northwest Fest due to their high status but hated attending it due to Preston being an utter douchebag. Likewise, [[AlphaBitch Pacifica]] would regularly pick on [[LonelyRichKid Jenny]] for not having any friends.
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[[WMG: ''WesternAnimation/OliverAndCompany'' will be in ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts3D'']]
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* Tito: Creator/MichaelPena: He has the right ethnicity, plus his performance as [[Film/AntMan Luis]] proves he's got the right amount of humor to ensure that he'd make his Tito just as memorable as Cheech Marin's.
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* Tito: Creator/MichaelPena: He has the right ethnicity, plus his performance as [[Film/AntMan [[Film/AntMan1 Luis]] proves he's got the right amount of humor to ensure that he'd make his Tito just as memorable as Cheech Marin's.
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Each doberman pinscher represents a different sin: Roscoe, the sin of Lust and Envy, and [=DeSoto=]the sin of Greed and Murder.
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Each doberman pinscher represents a different sin: Roscoe, the sin of Lust and Envy, and [=DeSoto=]the [=DeSoto=] the sin of Greed and Murder.
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* Tito: Michael Pena: Creator/MichaelPena: He has the right ethnicity, plus his performance as [[Film/AntMan Luis]] proves he's got the right amount of humor to ensure that he'd make his Tito just as memorable as Cheech Marin's.
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* Roscoe and [=DeSoto=]: Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan
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[[WMG: Georgette scaring Tito away was ''not'' accidental.]]
At least, the actual outcome was one of two she anticipated: either she smothers him with froofiness and gets him to go away, or he actually likes it and they can pursue a relationship on ''her'' terms. Calling after him to "get back here this instant" as he fled was just keeping the act up until she was sure he was gone.
At least, the actual outcome was one of two she anticipated: either she smothers him with froofiness and gets him to go away, or he actually likes it and they can pursue a relationship on ''her'' terms. Calling after him to "get back here this instant" as he fled was just keeping the act up until she was sure he was gone.
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* Dodger: [[RoleReprisal Billy Joel]]: Disney seems to like having certain actors reprise their previous roles in the live-action remakes (eg. Creator/JamesEarlJones returning as [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing2019 Mufasa]]) and Dodger was pretty much created for the Piano Man plus can you imagine anyone else singing "Why Should I Worry?"
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* Dodger: [[RoleReprisal [[RoleReprise Billy Joel]]: Disney seems to like having certain actors reprise their previous roles in the live-action remakes (eg. Creator/JamesEarlJones returning as [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing2019 Mufasa]]) and Dodger was pretty much created for the Piano Man plus can you imagine anyone else singing "Why Should I Worry?"
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* Fagin: Creator/JimCummings: His actual appearance does look a bit scruffy enough for him to play the role of a bum, plus with all the voiceover work he's done for Disney over the decades, it'd be fitting for him to finally have a live-action role.
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* Fagin: Creator/JimCummings: His actual appearance does look a bit scruffy enough for him to play the role of a bum, plus with all the voiceover work he's done for Disney over the decades, it'd be fitting for him to finally have a live-action role.
role (I'd imagine he'd use something similar to his Bonkers voice for the role).
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[[WMG: Cast for a live-action remake of ''Oliver & Company'' if Disney ever decides to make one (feel free to add your own guesses)]]
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* Dodger: [[RoleReprisal Billy Joel]]: Disney seems to like having certain actors reprise their previous roles in the live-action remakes (eg. Creator/JamesEarlJones returning as [[Film/TheLionKing2019 [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing2019 Mufasa]]) and Dodger was pretty much created for the Piano Man plus can you imagine anyone else singing "Why Should I Worry?"
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This is how a lot of people get in trouble with loan sharks, to pay off gambling debts. In the final scene, he bets with Winston on the outcome of a wrestling match. A wrestling match. Seriously.
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This is how a lot of people get in trouble with loan sharks, to pay off gambling debts. In the final scene, he bets with Winston on the outcome of a wrestling match. A wrestling match. Seriously.Seriously.
[[WMG: Cast for a live-action remake of ''Oliver & Company'' if Disney ever decides to make one (feel free to add your own guesses)]]
* Dodger: [[RoleReprisal Billy Joel]]: Disney seems to like having certain actors reprise their previous roles in the live-action remakes (eg. Creator/JamesEarlJones returning as [[Film/TheLionKing2019 Mufasa]]) and Dodger was pretty much created for the Piano Man plus can you imagine anyone else singing "Why Should I Worry?"
* Tito: Michael Pena: He has the right ethnicity, plus his performance as [[Film/AntMan Luis]] proves he's got the right amount of humor to ensure that he'd make his Tito just as memorable as Cheech Marin's.
* Fagin: Creator/JimCummings: His actual appearance does look a bit scruffy enough for him to play the role of a bum, plus with all the voiceover work he's done for Disney over the decades, it'd be fitting for him to finally have a live-action role.
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[[WMG: Cast for a live-action remake of ''Oliver & Company'' if Disney ever decides to make one (feel free to add your own guesses)]]
* Dodger: [[RoleReprisal Billy Joel]]: Disney seems to like having certain actors reprise their previous roles in the live-action remakes (eg. Creator/JamesEarlJones returning as [[Film/TheLionKing2019 Mufasa]]) and Dodger was pretty much created for the Piano Man plus can you imagine anyone else singing "Why Should I Worry?"
* Tito: Michael Pena: He has the right ethnicity, plus his performance as [[Film/AntMan Luis]] proves he's got the right amount of humor to ensure that he'd make his Tito just as memorable as Cheech Marin's.
* Fagin: Creator/JimCummings: His actual appearance does look a bit scruffy enough for him to play the role of a bum, plus with all the voiceover work he's done for Disney over the decades, it'd be fitting for him to finally have a live-action role.
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[[WMG: This movie is set in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/{{Balto}}'']]
Rosy is actually Jenny, who stepped into a time portal. She was adopted and changed her name, but resented her situation and missed her home, so she named her dog after herself. Eventually, she grew up into the old woman we see in ''Balto'', met her younger self and faded.
Or she was reborn into an endless cycle of lifetimes of pain and loss and eventually became [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls Bill Cipher]]. Whatever strikes your fancies.
Rosy is actually Jenny, who stepped into a time portal. She was adopted and changed her name, but resented her situation and missed her home, so she named her dog after herself. Eventually, she grew up into the old woman we see in ''Balto'', met her younger self and faded.
Or she was reborn into an endless cycle of lifetimes of pain and loss and eventually became [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls Bill Cipher]]. Whatever strikes your fancies.
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Perhaps she's the dog equivalent of a pageant girl; she's been in a lot of dog shows and won every time, but that put a lot of stress on her, for her to always ''keep'' her title as "best in show". That's why she feels so threatened by Oliver's presence. She was taught her whole life that she was supposed to eliminate ''any'' competition. And that's what she saw Oliver as: Competition.
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Perhaps she's the dog equivalent of a pageant girl; she's been in a lot of dog shows and won every time, but that put a lot of stress on her, for her to always ''keep'' her title as "best in show". That's why she feels so threatened by Oliver's presence. She was taught her whole life that she was supposed to eliminate ''any'' competition. And that's what she saw Oliver as: Competition.Competition.
[[WMG: Fagin is a gambling addict.]]
This is how a lot of people get in trouble with loan sharks, to pay off gambling debts. In the final scene, he bets with Winston on the outcome of a wrestling match. A wrestling match. Seriously.
[[WMG: Fagin is a gambling addict.]]
This is how a lot of people get in trouble with loan sharks, to pay off gambling debts. In the final scene, he bets with Winston on the outcome of a wrestling match. A wrestling match. Seriously.
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* {{Jossed}} because its not.
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[[WMG: Dodger is the male dog equivalent to a siren.]]
Look at how all the dogs are so infatuated with Dodger when he sings "Why Should I Worry". He and his singing are incredibly charming. It was probably the first time I was infatuated with a song, I was singing it all day. And then the fact that they're walking in perfect choreography with him by the end of the song.
There's no way they just think he's fun, they have to be under some kind of spell. Which isn't that improbable considering this is a ''Disney film about talking animals''.
I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination that he's evil or using dark magic or even that he's doing it on purpose but there's no way Dodger is a normal dog with what happens when he sings.
Look at how all the dogs are so infatuated with Dodger when he sings "Why Should I Worry". He and his singing are incredibly charming. It was probably the first time I was infatuated with a song, I was singing it all day. And then the fact that they're walking in perfect choreography with him by the end of the song.
There's no way they just think he's fun, they have to be under some kind of spell. Which isn't that improbable considering this is a ''Disney film about talking animals''.
I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination that he's evil or using dark magic or even that he's doing it on purpose but there's no way Dodger is a normal dog with what happens when he sings.
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[[WMG: Georgette is hiding some ''serious'' insecurities.]]
Listen to her song again:
"When one knows ''the world is watching''/one does what one ''must''"
"Sometimes it's ''too much'' for even me!/But when ''all the world says 'yes', then who am I to say 'no'?''"
Perhaps she's the dog equivalent of a pageant girl; she's been in a lot of dog shows and won every time, but that put a lot of stress on her, for her to always ''keep'' her title as "best in show". That's why she feels so threatened by Oliver's presence. She was taught her whole life that she was supposed to eliminate ''any'' competition. And that's what she saw Oliver as: Competition.
[[WMG: Georgette is hiding some ''serious'' insecurities.]]
Listen to her song again:
"When one knows ''the world is watching''/one does what one ''must''"
"Sometimes it's ''too much'' for even me!/But when ''all the world says 'yes', then who am I to say 'no'?''"
Perhaps she's the dog equivalent of a pageant girl; she's been in a lot of dog shows and won every time, but that put a lot of stress on her, for her to always ''keep'' her title as "best in show". That's why she feels so threatened by Oliver's presence. She was taught her whole life that she was supposed to eliminate ''any'' competition. And that's what she saw Oliver as: Competition.
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*** How about Wrath instead?
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** Murder is not one of the Seven Deadly Sins.
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* If it was, I would buy it. But Disney neglects this (awesome) film like you wouldn't believe.
* If it was, I would buy it. But Disney neglects this (awesome) film like you wouldn't believe.