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[[WMG: The four Hokuto brothers are [[Franchise/{{Highlander}} Immortals]]]]
[[RuleofCool Because why the hell not?]]
[[WMG: The four Hokuto brothers are [[Franchise/{{Highlander}} Immortals]]]]
[[RuleofCool Because why the hell not?]]
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In fact, it was a devastating war between the most powerful martial artists the world had to offer, flashing impossible powers and devastating abilities against one another on an epic, earth-shattering scale. The remainders of the nuclear war were either civilians or comparatively weaker martial artists. [[HolyShitQuotient This includes Kenshiro.]]
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In fact, it was a devastating war between the most powerful martial artists the world had to offer, flashing impossible powers and devastating abilities against one another on an epic, earth-shattering scale. The remainders of the nuclear war were either civilians or comparatively weaker martial artists. [[HolyShitQuotient This includes Kenshiro.]]]]
*The animé is rather explicit about all the wasteland bein a result of a nuclear war.
*The animé is rather explicit about all the wasteland bein a result of a nuclear war.
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** This guy ain't savy at all, [[ChuckNorrisFacts 'cause if someone'd write Kenshiro's name in a Death Note, the writer'd die]].
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[[WMG: Jagi, on some level, wanted to die]]
Looking at his final fight with Kenshiro he doesn't seem to have any way off of the rooftop after he started the fire. Not to mention the man was one good stab away from just ending himself after Anna's death, and the only thing that stopped him was hearing that Kenshiro was named the successor. It's not inconceivable that, if he had managed to win that fight, Jagi had little intention of living much longer. He'd have accomplished the only thing he had left that was keeping him going at that point.
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* By extension, it's possible that [[FateExtra Fate/Extra]] takes place ''after'' the destruction of the 'modern' world (as demonstrated through both Twice Pieceman's flashbacks and what we see of the world during the ending scenes) but ''before'' it descended completely into MadMax-style pre-technological anarchy. This would indicate a timeline where the clashes between the rebels and the Harway-led plutocracy didn't stop with just germ warfare gone wrong but actually concluded with nuclear bombardment-- Possibly meaning that, across the radioactive sea, [[{{Fallout}} Vault-Tec]] and the former USA is compensating for a lack of Nanto Seiken practitioners with old-world tech and Pip-Boy-wielding Vault Dwellers/Chosen Ones/Lone Wanderers/Couriers. Who can, coincidentally, achieve similar results through use of [[BulletTime VATS]] and the [[LudicrousGibs Bloody Mess]] perk. One timeline gave birth to two separate universes, three if you think ''TheBookOfEli'' takes place within the ''Fallout'' world, given the Great War/destruction by nukes and the solo sojourner defending human kindness/morality through the [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption rampant, bloody murder]] of the [[ObviouslyEvil obvious villains]].
** The reason the ''Fallout''/''The Book of Eli'' examples contain fewer ManlyTears / TenderTears / RedemptionEqualsDeath? Shirou's idealism, demonstrated in how he's able to forgive 'villains' like Rider and Sakura because of their tragic pasts, carried on through the heroes who managed to exist even in the Grail's CrapsackWorld. Kenshiro is a hero in the Shirou mold, as opposed to Archer who pursued his ideals even if it meant innocents dying. On the other hand, ''Fallout''/''Eli'' is a case of AmericanKirbyIsHardcore. Obviously, the reason for the difference between the martial-arts-filled East and the guns-and-tech West is a matter of local deity: As seen through Eli hauling that Bible cross-country thanks to the 'voice in his head' and the number of Biblical references in ''Fallout'', notably the importance of a Biblical verse in ''Fallout3'' and Joshua Graham/the New Caananites in ''FalloutNewVegas'', the deity responsible for guiding/remaking the West - okay, or maybe just the US - isn't Buddha but {{God}}.
** The reason the ''Fallout''/''The Book of Eli'' examples contain fewer ManlyTears / TenderTears / RedemptionEqualsDeath? Shirou's idealism, demonstrated in how he's able to forgive 'villains' like Rider and Sakura because of their tragic pasts, carried on through the heroes who managed to exist even in the Grail's CrapsackWorld. Kenshiro is a hero in the Shirou mold, as opposed to Archer who pursued his ideals even if it meant innocents dying. On the other hand, ''Fallout''/''Eli'' is a case of AmericanKirbyIsHardcore. Obviously, the reason for the difference between the martial-arts-filled East and the guns-and-tech West is a matter of local deity: As seen through Eli hauling that Bible cross-country thanks to the 'voice in his head' and the number of Biblical references in ''Fallout'', notably the importance of a Biblical verse in ''Fallout3'' and Joshua Graham/the New Caananites in ''FalloutNewVegas'', the deity responsible for guiding/remaking the West - okay, or maybe just the US - isn't Buddha but {{God}}.
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* By extension, it's possible that [[FateExtra Fate/Extra]] takes place ''after'' the destruction of the 'modern' world (as demonstrated through both Twice Pieceman's flashbacks and what we see of the world during the ending scenes) but ''before'' it descended completely into MadMax-style pre-technological anarchy. This would indicate a timeline where the clashes between the rebels and the Harway-led plutocracy didn't stop with just germ warfare gone wrong but actually concluded with nuclear bombardment-- Possibly meaning that, across the radioactive sea, [[{{Fallout}} [[VideoGame/{{Fallout}} Vault-Tec]] and the former USA is compensating for a lack of Nanto Seiken practitioners with old-world tech and Pip-Boy-wielding Vault Dwellers/Chosen Ones/Lone Wanderers/Couriers. Who can, coincidentally, achieve similar results through use of [[BulletTime VATS]] and the [[LudicrousGibs Bloody Mess]] perk. One timeline gave birth to two separate universes, three if you think ''TheBookOfEli'' takes place within the ''Fallout'' world, given the Great War/destruction by nukes and the solo sojourner defending human kindness/morality through the [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption rampant, bloody murder]] of the [[ObviouslyEvil obvious villains]].
** The reason the ''Fallout''/''The Book of Eli'' examples contain fewer ManlyTears / TenderTears / RedemptionEqualsDeath? Shirou's idealism, demonstrated in how he's able to forgive 'villains' like Rider and Sakura because of their tragic pasts, carried on through the heroes who managed to exist even in the Grail's CrapsackWorld. Kenshiro is a hero in the Shirou mold, as opposed to Archer who pursued his ideals even if it meant innocents dying. On the other hand, ''Fallout''/''Eli'' is a case of AmericanKirbyIsHardcore. Obviously, the reason for the difference between the martial-arts-filled East and the guns-and-tech West is a matter of local deity: As seen through Eli hauling that Bible cross-country thanks to the 'voice in his head' and the number of Biblical references in ''Fallout'', notably the importance of a Biblical verse in''Fallout3'' ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' and Joshua Graham/the New Caananites in ''FalloutNewVegas'', ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', the deity responsible for guiding/remaking the West - okay, or maybe just the US - isn't Buddha but {{God}}.
** The reason the ''Fallout''/''The Book of Eli'' examples contain fewer ManlyTears / TenderTears / RedemptionEqualsDeath? Shirou's idealism, demonstrated in how he's able to forgive 'villains' like Rider and Sakura because of their tragic pasts, carried on through the heroes who managed to exist even in the Grail's CrapsackWorld. Kenshiro is a hero in the Shirou mold, as opposed to Archer who pursued his ideals even if it meant innocents dying. On the other hand, ''Fallout''/''Eli'' is a case of AmericanKirbyIsHardcore. Obviously, the reason for the difference between the martial-arts-filled East and the guns-and-tech West is a matter of local deity: As seen through Eli hauling that Bible cross-country thanks to the 'voice in his head' and the number of Biblical references in ''Fallout'', notably the importance of a Biblical verse in
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* By extension, it's possible that [[FateExtra Fate/Extra]] takes place ''after'' the destruction of the 'modern' world (as demonstrated through both Twice Peaceman's flashbacks and what we see of the world during the ending scenes) but ''before'' it descended completely into MadMax-style pre-technological anarchy. This would indicate a timeline where the clashes between the rebels and the Harway-led plutocracy didn't stop with just germ warfare gone wrong but actually concluded with nuclear bombardment-- Possibly meaning that, across the radioactive sea, [[{{Fallout}} Vault-Tec]] and the former USA is compensating for a lack of Nanto Seiken practitioners with old-world tech and Pip-Boy-wielding Vault Dwellers/Chosen Ones/Lone Wanderers/Couriers. Who can, coincidentally, achieve similar results through use of [[BulletTime VATS]] and the [[LudicrousGibs Bloody Mess]] perk. One timeline gave birth to two separate universes... Three if you think ''TheBookOfEli'' takes place within the ''Fallout'' world, given the Great War/destruction by nukes and the solo sojourner defending human kindness/morality through the [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption rampant, bloody murder]] of the [[ObviouslyEvil obvious villains]].
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* By extension, it's possible that [[FateExtra Fate/Extra]] takes place ''after'' the destruction of the 'modern' world (as demonstrated through both Twice Peaceman's Pieceman's flashbacks and what we see of the world during the ending scenes) but ''before'' it descended completely into MadMax-style pre-technological anarchy. This would indicate a timeline where the clashes between the rebels and the Harway-led plutocracy didn't stop with just germ warfare gone wrong but actually concluded with nuclear bombardment-- Possibly meaning that, across the radioactive sea, [[{{Fallout}} Vault-Tec]] and the former USA is compensating for a lack of Nanto Seiken practitioners with old-world tech and Pip-Boy-wielding Vault Dwellers/Chosen Ones/Lone Wanderers/Couriers. Who can, coincidentally, achieve similar results through use of [[BulletTime VATS]] and the [[LudicrousGibs Bloody Mess]] perk. One timeline gave birth to two separate universes... Three universes, three if you think ''TheBookOfEli'' takes place within the ''Fallout'' world, given the Great War/destruction by nukes and the solo sojourner defending human kindness/morality through the [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption rampant, bloody murder]] of the [[ObviouslyEvil obvious villains]].
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From [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTI8euNcOt4 this]] we know that not only HokutoNoKen is set in the same world of UruseiYatsura, but that Kenshiro frequented Tomobiki High in the same class as Ataru, Lum, Mendo and Shinobu (and that could explain Shinobu's super strenght: she probably saw Jagi or Raoh showing off and managed to copy the way Hokuto practitioners gets theirs). As the various aliens tended to leave around pieces of their technology, the various governments tried to get some of it, with the skirmishes progressively growing and degenerating in open war. Then the Oni moved in to recover Lum and her husband (and possibly some of their friend), the Americans mistook it for another invasion and fired a volley of nukes, China mistook it for the first strike and launched its nukes, and it went to full-blown nuclear war from there.
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From [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTI8euNcOt4 this]] we know that not only HokutoNoKen is set in the same world of UruseiYatsura, but that Kenshiro frequented Tomobiki High in the same class as Ataru, Lum, Mendo and Shinobu (and that could explain Shinobu's super strenght: she probably saw Jagi or Raoh showing off and managed to copy the way Hokuto practitioners gets theirs).theirs), and was apparently the [[JapaneseDelinquents banchou]]. As the various aliens tended to leave around pieces of their technology, the various governments tried to get some of it, with the skirmishes progressively growing and degenerating in open war. Then the Oni moved in to recover Lum and her husband (and possibly some of their friend), the Americans mistook it for another invasion and fired a volley of nukes, China mistook it for the first strike and launched its nukes, and it went to full-blown nuclear war from there.
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From [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTI8euNcOt4 this]] we know that not only HokutoNoKen is set in the same world of UruseiYatsura, but that Kenshiro frequented Tomobiki High in the same class as Ataru, Lum, Mendo and Shinobu (and that could explain Shinobu's super strenght: she probably saw Jagi or Raoh showing off and managed to copy the way Hokuto practitioners gets theirs). As the various aliens tended to leave around pieces of their technology, the various governments tried to get some of it, with the skirmishes progressively growing and degenerating in open war. Then the Oni moved in to recover Lum and her husband (and possibly some of their friend), the Americans mistook it for another invasion and fired a volley of nukes, China mistook it for the first strike and launched its nukes, and it went to full-blown nuclear war from there.
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[[WMG: Someone DangerouslyGenreSavvy with a DeathNote is trying to track Kenshiro [[FollowTheChaos following the trail of bodies]] ]]
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[[WMG: Someone DangerouslyGenreSavvy with a DeathNote Manga/DeathNote is trying to track Kenshiro [[FollowTheChaos following the trail of bodies]] ]]
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[[WMG: The nuclear war that made Kensiro's world the way it is is a direct result of Emiya Shirou's wish to be "The Greatest Hero Of All Time" in ''[[FateStayNight Fate: Unlimited Balde Works.]]]]''
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[[WMG: The nuclear war that made Kensiro's world the way it is is a direct result of Emiya Shirou's wish to be "The Greatest Hero Of All Time" in ''[[FateStayNight Fate: Unlimited Balde Blade Works.]]]]''
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* By extension, it's possible that [[FateExtra Fate/Extra]] takes place ''after'' the destruction of the 'modern' world (as demonstrated through both Twice Peaceman's flashbacks and what we see of the world during the ending scenes) but ''before'' it descended completely into MadMax-style pre-technological anarchy. This would indicate a timeline where the clashes between the rebels and the Harway-led plutocracy didn't stop with just germ warfare gone wrong but actually concluded with nuclear bombardment-- Possibly meaning that, across the radioactive sea, [[{{Fallout}} Vault-Tec]] and the former USA is compensating for a lack of Nanto Seiken practitioners with old-world tech and Pip-Boy-wielding Vault Dwellers/Chosen Ones/Lone Wanderers/Couriers. Who can, coincidentally, achieve similar results through use of [[BulletTime VATS]] and the [[LudicrousGibs Bloody Mess]] perk. One timeline gave birth to two separate universes... Three if you think ''TheBookOfEli'' takes place within the ''Fallout'' world, given the Great War/destruction by nukes and the solo sojourner defending human kindness/morality through the [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption rampant, bloody murder]] of the [[ObviouslyEvil obvious villains]].
** The reason the ''Fallout''/''The Book of Eli'' examples contain fewer ManlyTears / TenderTears / RedemptionEqualsDeath? Shirou's idealism, demonstrated in how he's able to forgive 'villains' like Rider and Sakura because of their tragic pasts, carried on through the heroes who managed to exist even in the Grail's CrapsackWorld. Kenshiro is a hero in the Shirou mold, as opposed to Archer who pursued his ideals even if it meant innocents dying. On the other hand, ''Fallout''/''Eli'' is a case of AmericanKirbyIsHardcore. Obviously, the reason for the difference between the martial-arts-filled East and the guns-and-tech West is a matter of local deity: As seen through Eli hauling that Bible cross-country thanks to the 'voice in his head' and the number of Biblical references in ''Fallout'', notably the importance of a Biblical verse in ''Fallout3'' and Joshua Graham/the New Caananites in ''FalloutNewVegas'', the deity responsible for guiding/remaking the West - okay, or maybe just the US - isn't Buddha but {{God}}.
** The reason the ''Fallout''/''The Book of Eli'' examples contain fewer ManlyTears / TenderTears / RedemptionEqualsDeath? Shirou's idealism, demonstrated in how he's able to forgive 'villains' like Rider and Sakura because of their tragic pasts, carried on through the heroes who managed to exist even in the Grail's CrapsackWorld. Kenshiro is a hero in the Shirou mold, as opposed to Archer who pursued his ideals even if it meant innocents dying. On the other hand, ''Fallout''/''Eli'' is a case of AmericanKirbyIsHardcore. Obviously, the reason for the difference between the martial-arts-filled East and the guns-and-tech West is a matter of local deity: As seen through Eli hauling that Bible cross-country thanks to the 'voice in his head' and the number of Biblical references in ''Fallout'', notably the importance of a Biblical verse in ''Fallout3'' and Joshua Graham/the New Caananites in ''FalloutNewVegas'', the deity responsible for guiding/remaking the West - okay, or maybe just the US - isn't Buddha but {{God}}.
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Why not? The Primarchs are large manly men that are warriors beyond compare. The two biggest warriors beyond compare in Hokuto no Ken are Kenshirou and Raoh.
Why not? The Primarchs are large manly men that are warriors beyond compare. The two biggest warriors beyond compare in Hokuto no Ken are Kenshirou and Raoh.
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* Makes sense, in the fight against Devil he punches much slower, and instead of going ATATATATATA he goes ATA! ATA! ATA!
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* Either that, or Hokuto's ''real'' secret technique consists in making every single [[TooDumbToLive idiotic]] road warrior thug in a hundred kilometers radius [[MuggingTheMonster attack you]]. (Hokuto's secret mass aggro?)
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Both men saw what Kenshiro ''can'' do to the human body, and both knew that our hero was the superior warrior. Telling him of their traumatic childhoods would therefore get enough sympathy from him to give them a merciful death... which they both got.
Both men saw what Kenshiro ''can'' do to the human body, and both knew that our hero was the superior warrior. Telling him of their traumatic childhoods would therefore get enough sympathy from him to give them a merciful death... which they both got.
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[[WMG: SaintSeiya is a prequel to HokutoNoKen]]
* After defeat Hades once for all, Athena wasn't need to come back to earth...she was wrong. Now, Lin is the new athena. Of course, Ken is the last Saint alive.
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Which is why his voice is so high-pitched when setting off a Hokuto Hyakuretsuken: he's firing each punch at what seems like normal speed to him punctuated with a loud "TA!". Normal humans see and hear only the sped-up version.
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[[WMG: Kenshiro's shirt is an extension of his aura.]]
Wouldn't that make sense? There's only one explanation for where he gets them from: they are just brightly colored manifestations of his energy, his to discard and recreate whenever he wishes. This is also supported by the fact that he only destroys them when he's very angry; obviously, losing control of his emotions causes the aura to be unstable and disintegrate.
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Even saviors like Kenshiro and ''Raoh'' can be restricted by geography and oceans, so the [[{God} Gentleman Upstairs]] decides to give each area a savior of its own: and Eli has WAY more mastery in the art of slicing than a non-Nanto Seiken practitioner has any rights to.
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Even saviors like Kenshiro and ''Raoh'' can be restricted by geography and oceans, so the [[{God} [[{{God}} Gentleman Upstairs]] decides to give each area a savior of its own: and Eli has WAY more mastery in the art of slicing than a non-Nanto Seiken practitioner has any rights to.
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[[WMG: Kenshiro summons new outfits through sheer awesome.]]
Given all the other crap he pulls off on a regular basis, it's at least plausible.