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** And how do you know Meyer isn't ''lying'' about being Mormon to hide her secret authorship of this series?
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[[WMG: Anastasia Steele is the granddaughter of Sarge Steel]]

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[[WMG: Anastasia Steele is the granddaughter of Sarge Steel]]
Sarge Steel was a detective and spy in the sixties and would later go on to father a child with Bessie Forbes, who would later grow up to be Ray Steele's father, who changed his name to avoid being recognised as Sarge's son.
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* Both are TallDarkAndHandsome, intensely emotional {{Bastard Boyfriend}}s who were adopted by rich families. The difference is that Creator/EmilyBronte saw how screwed up a person Heathcliff was, but E.L. James couldn't see it in Mr. Grey.

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* Both are TallDarkAndHandsome, intensely emotional {{Bastard Boyfriend}}s boyfriends who were adopted by rich families. The difference is that Creator/EmilyBronte saw how screwed up a person Heathcliff was, but E.L. James couldn't see it in Mr. Grey.
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* Maybe it was an abusive ex she had intense — but ambivalent — feelings for. The books could be imagining an alternate ending to the real story: what-if they stayed together and she figured out how to fix him.
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** "Grey" is more like Literature/MidnightSun, though. It remains to be seen whether James could bring herself to write a psychopath dominatrix who stalks a woefully innocent virgin man.

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** "Grey" is more like Literature/MidnightSun, Literature/MidnightSun2020, though. It remains to be seen whether James could bring herself to write a psychopath dominatrix who stalks a woefully innocent virgin man.
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* This isn't even a theory; it's right there in the text. From the start Ana repeatedly stresses how she feels she's inadequate, unattractive, and unworthy of Christian.

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** And over a period of years, she slowly, painfully, actually ''improved''. Yes, no-one is going to call this book great literature, [[DamnedByFaintPraise but it's better than My Immortal]].



[[WMG: Christian Grey is the reincarnation of [[Literature/WutheringHeights Heathcliff]]]]
* Both are TallDarkAndHandsome, intensely emotional {{Bastard Boyfriend}}s who were adopted by rich families. The difference is that Creator/EmilyBronte saw how screwed up a person Heathcliff was, but E.L. James couldn't see it in Mr. Grey.



She was broughht up as though she was neurotypical, so being abused seems like just the way things are supposed to be for her.

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She was broughht brought up as though she was neurotypical, so being abused seems like just the way things are supposed to be for her.
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* Um, Meyer is a committed Mormon, and I don`t think Mormons are awfully comfortable with explicit sex scenes. Then again, 9% of FSOG readers where [[PeripheryDemographic Christian housewives]], so it might happen.
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She was broughht up as though she was neurotypical, so being abused seems like just the way things are supposed to be for her.

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She was broughht up as though she was neurotypical, so being abused seems like just the way things are supposed to be for her.her.

[[WMG: Christian Grey is not really a CEO.]]
Grey never built a company and he doesn't actually manage any businesses. Rather, his fabulously wealthy family is giving him a generous allowance and letting him keep an office in a building they own so he can ''pretend'' to be a self-made entrepreneur in order to feel better about himself and impress women. This explains why we never see Grey doing anything related to his business; he doesn't ''have'' a real business, just a crapload of money from his family.
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Their writing styles are way too similar to be just a mere coincidence. It will also explain how E.L. James was able to avoid copyright issues despite her work being originally ''Twilight'' fanfiction. The person portraying E.L. James is actually an actress paid by Meyer.

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Their writing styles are way too similar to be just a mere coincidence. It will also explain how E.L. James was able to avoid copyright issues despite her work being originally a ''Twilight'' fanfiction. The person portraying E.L. James is actually an actress paid by Meyer.
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Their writing styles are way too similar to be just a mere coincidence. It will also explain how E.L. James was able to avoid copyright issues despite being originally ''Twilight'' fanfiction. The person portraying E.L. James is actually an actress paid by Meyer.

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Their writing styles are way too similar to be just a mere coincidence. It will also explain how E.L. James was able to avoid copyright issues despite her work being originally ''Twilight'' fanfiction. The person portraying E.L. James is actually an actress paid by Meyer.
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"Christian Grey" is an obvious false identity. We're watching the story of either Tommy Elliot/Hush or Anton Knight/The Night Slayer. The ending of FiftyShadesDarker is foreshadowing a JusticeLeague mission to take down Grey Enterprises and its villainous CEO.

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"Christian Grey" is an obvious false identity. We're watching the story of either Tommy Elliot/Hush or Anton Knight/The Night Slayer. The ending of FiftyShadesDarker ''Literature/FiftyShadesDarker'' is foreshadowing a JusticeLeague ''Franchise/JusticeLeague'' mission to take down Grey Enterprises and its villainous CEO.
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** Expanding on this, she's an AU version of the Key from BuffyTheVampireSlayer. In this AU, the monks weren't competent enough to give her a full identity like the ones in canon did with Dawn, so instead they gave her everything they could think of: seeing as they're monks and lived in celibate isolation from the world...

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** Expanding on this, she's an AU version of the Key from BuffyTheVampireSlayer.''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. In this AU, the monks weren't competent enough to give her a full identity like the ones in canon did with Dawn, so instead they gave her everything they could think of: seeing as they're monks and lived in celibate isolation from the world...
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[[WMG: In a world where [[LeftBehind the Rapture]] never happened, Chloe Steele dyed her hair brown and changed her name to Anastasia.]]

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[[WMG: In a world where [[LeftBehind [[Literature/LeftBehind the Rapture]] never happened, Chloe Steele dyed her hair brown and changed her name to Anastasia.]]



* I guess that makes Grey the AU version of [[TheAntichrist Nicolae]] [[LeftBehind Carpathia]].

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* I guess that makes Grey the AU version of [[TheAntichrist Nicolae]] [[LeftBehind [[Literature/LeftBehind Carpathia]].
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As evidenced by her MarySue tendencies, she's not a human being at all. She was a humanoid automaton designed by Grey to fulfil his sexual desires; a sort of [[Main.TheStepfordWives Stepford Wife.]] The people in her life are either actors Grey hired to pretend to be her relatives, or strangers who befriended the naive young woman out of concern for her welfare. Think about it; the man's a billionaire - surely he of all people could pull off something like this. He probably wouldn't be too concerned about the ethics either, judging by his personality.

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As evidenced by her MarySue tendencies, she's not a human being at all. She was a humanoid automaton designed by Grey to fulfil his sexual desires; a sort of [[Main.TheStepfordWives [[Literature/TheStepfordWives Stepford Wife.]] The people in her life are either actors Grey hired to pretend to be her relatives, or strangers who befriended the naive young woman out of concern for her welfare. Think about it; the man's a billionaire - surely he of all people could pull off something like this. He probably wouldn't be too concerned about the ethics either, judging by his personality.
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Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, the Greys actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years. There was no evidence that they even made an attempt to correct Christian's ever worsening behavior, even when he physically attacked Elliot as shown in "Grey". In fact, Grace and Carrick were afraid that Christian was going to hurt the infant Mia. They made token attempts by sending him to therapy when he was getting into trouble at school for his violent mood swings, but the damage was already done. The fact that Christian says that he only learned self-control and discipline under the hand of Elena Lincoln is rather damning evidence of the Greys' negligent parenting. Say what you will about Ella, she tried as a single mother with limited resources. For all their money, the Greys didn't do a thing to help Christian overcome his trauma, instead enabling his cruelty.

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Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, the Greys actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years. There was no evidence that they even made an attempt to correct Christian's ever worsening behavior, even when he physically attacked Elliot as shown in "Grey". In fact, Grace and Carrick were afraid that Christian was going to hurt the infant Mia. They made token attempts by sending him to therapy when he was getting into trouble at school for his violent mood swings, but the damage was already done. The fact that Christian says that he only learned self-control and discipline under the hand of Elena Lincoln is rather damning evidence of the Greys' negligent parenting. Say what you will about Ella, she tried as a single mother with limited resources. For all their money, the Greys didn't do a thing to help Christian overcome his trauma, instead enabling his cruelty.
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*It doesn't seem like it. If James was writing it as someone who didn't get into it, then why were the prominent "doms" unpunished for their enjoyment of it? Aside from falling out of Christian's favor, Elena Lincoln essentially gets away with statutory rape and Christian continues to dominate Ana, even getting away with spanking which was a point of contention for Ana. Take into account James' dismissal of the books' critics, many of whom had reasonable concerns about her romanticizing domestic abuse, and this theory just doesn't make sense.

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** "Grey" is more like Literature/MidnightSun, though. It remains to be seen whether James could bring herself to write a psychopath dominatrix who stalks a woefully innocent virgin man.



Obviously Anastasia is not into BDSM ''at all''. Since James writes from her own experiences with BDSM, it is likely that James herself was never into it. Maybe she is writing this shit as a form of psychotherapy. Maybe we should cut her some slack.

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Obviously Anastasia is not into BDSM ''at all''. Since James writes from her own experiences with BDSM, it is likely that James herself was never into it. Maybe she is writing this shit as a form of psychotherapy. Maybe we should cut her some slack.slack.

[[WMG: Anastasia is neurodiverse.]]
She was broughht up as though she was neurotypical, so being abused seems like just the way things are supposed to be for her.
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** Yep, there's one out now called "Grey", from the perspective of the eponymous abusive businessman who's misinformed about even the most basic aspects of his lifestyle.
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Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, the Greys actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years. There was no evidence that they even made an attempt to correct Christian's ever worsening behavior, even when he physically attacked Elliot as shown in "Grey". In fact, Grace and Carrick were afraid that Christian was going to hurt the infant Mia. They made token attempts by sending him to therapy when he was getting into trouble at school for his violent mood swings, but the damage was already done. The fact that Christian says that he only learned self-control and discipline under the hand of Elena Lincoln is rather damning evidence of the Greys' negligent parenting. Say what you will about Ella, she tried as a single mother with limited resources. For all their money, the Greys didn't do a thing to help Christian overcome his trauma, instead enabling his cruelty.

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Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, the Greys actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years. There was no evidence that they even made an attempt to correct Christian's ever worsening behavior, even when he physically attacked Elliot as shown in "Grey". In fact, Grace and Carrick were afraid that Christian was going to hurt the infant Mia. They made token attempts by sending him to therapy when he was getting into trouble at school for his violent mood swings, but the damage was already done. The fact that Christian says that he only learned self-control and discipline under the hand of Elena Lincoln is rather damning evidence of the Greys' negligent parenting. Say what you will about Ella, she tried as a single mother with limited resources. For all their money, the Greys didn't do a thing to help Christian overcome his trauma, instead enabling his cruelty.cruelty.

[[WMG: The books are not quite a cry for help, but more like whining after the fact.]]

Obviously Anastasia is not into BDSM ''at all''. Since James writes from her own experiences with BDSM, it is likely that James herself was never into it. Maybe she is writing this shit as a form of psychotherapy. Maybe we should cut her some slack.
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Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, the Greys actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years. There was no evidence that they even made an attempt to correct Christian's ever worsening behavior, even when he physically attacked Elliot as shown in <I>Grey</I>. In fact, Grace and Carrick were afraid that Christian was going to hurt the infant Mia. They made token attempts by sending him to therapy when he was getting into trouble at school for his violent mood swings, but the damage was already done. The fact that Christian says that he only learned self-control and discipline under the hand of Elena Lincoln is rather damning evidence of the Greys' negligent parenting.

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Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, the Greys actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years. There was no evidence that they even made an attempt to correct Christian's ever worsening behavior, even when he physically attacked Elliot as shown in <I>Grey</I>."Grey". In fact, Grace and Carrick were afraid that Christian was going to hurt the infant Mia. They made token attempts by sending him to therapy when he was getting into trouble at school for his violent mood swings, but the damage was already done. The fact that Christian says that he only learned self-control and discipline under the hand of Elena Lincoln is rather damning evidence of the Greys' negligent parenting. Say what you will about Ella, she tried as a single mother with limited resources. For all their money, the Greys didn't do a thing to help Christian overcome his trauma, instead enabling his cruelty.
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[[The ones responsible for messing up Christian Grey are...]]

Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, they actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years.

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[[The [[WMG: The ones responsible for messing up Christian Grey are...]]

Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, they the Greys actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years. There was no evidence that they even made an attempt to correct Christian's ever worsening behavior, even when he physically attacked Elliot as shown in <I>Grey</I>. In fact, Grace and Carrick were afraid that Christian was going to hurt the infant Mia. They made token attempts by sending him to therapy when he was getting into trouble at school for his violent mood swings, but the damage was already done. The fact that Christian says that he only learned self-control and discipline under the hand of Elena Lincoln is rather damning evidence of the Greys' negligent parenting.
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That was just a ruse to create publicity. In fact, Bella knew it perfectly well when she was going to get raped quite early in the first book, whereas Anastasia never grasped Literature/TessOfTheDurbervilles or any other Thomas Hardy novel for that matter. You heard me right: Bella was ''savvy'', if only by comparison to Anastasia Steele.

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That was just a ruse to create publicity. In fact, Bella knew it perfectly well when she was going to get raped quite early in the first book, whereas Anastasia never grasped Literature/TessOfTheDurbervilles or any other Thomas Hardy novel for that matter. You heard me right: Bella was ''savvy'', if only by comparison to Anastasia Steele.Steele.

[[The ones responsible for messing up Christian Grey are...]]

Grace and Carrick. While they can claim that they saved Christian from his rough childhood, they actually compounded his issues. It was never indicated that he received therapy after his mother's death or after his time in foster care. Even when Christian was selectively mute, they did nothing for it for two years.
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"Christian Grey" is an obvious false identity. We're watching the story of either Tommy Elliot/Hush or Anton Knight/The Night Slayer. The ending of FiftyShadesDarker is foreshadowing a JusticeLeague mission to take down Grey Enterprises and its villainous CEO.

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"Christian Grey" is an obvious false identity. We're watching the story of either Tommy Elliot/Hush or Anton Knight/The Night Slayer. The ending of FiftyShadesDarker is foreshadowing a JusticeLeague mission to take down Grey Enterprises and its villainous CEO.CEO.

[[WMG: This was never Twilight fanfiction.]]

That was just a ruse to create publicity. In fact, Bella knew it perfectly well when she was going to get raped quite early in the first book, whereas Anastasia never grasped Literature/TessOfTheDurbervilles or any other Thomas Hardy novel for that matter. You heard me right: Bella was ''savvy'', if only by comparison to Anastasia Steele.

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